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They should have done what 2k did. Remove modes and ONLY focus on gameplay . Get the game to play nice and be fun before you tell us all the nice features. Great gameplay > More modes
All pretty realistic improvements that can definitely be implemented in NBA LIVE 15...I am certain they are taking note of this and other lists people are making
They NEED to concentrate on the BASICs of a basketball game. Gameplay, Ability to Create and Edit Players and Teams and Playing a Career with those Players and Teams. Also SOLID On-line Servers to support On-Line play and Uploads. I know guys want So MANY options but if you Have SOLID On-Line and OFF-Line Game Modes(Association for Both) and Customization you are addressing all Avenues of game. Nail those things 1st and then you BUILD on it.
On a side not I think they should also reach out to guys who are passionate about helping getting LIVE back at the Top. Get some On-Line Players, get some CAP and CAT guys, get some Roster Makers, get some ON-Line Players, Get some Off-Line Players and brainstorm with them.
I have already Tweeted a couple EA guys offering to help out any way I could, I would LOVE to see some of the other guys who are SERIOUS about improving LIVE Tweet them as well. Let them know we WANT them to succeed. And i believe getting back in touch with their Fan Base is a Great way to go about it.
They NEED to concentrate on the BASICs of a basketball game. Gameplay, Ability to Create and Edit Players and Teams and Playing a Career with those Players and Teams. Also SOLID On-line Servers to support On-Line play and Uploads. I know guys want So MANY options but if you Have SOLID On-Line and OFF-Line Game Modes(Association for Both) and Customization you are addressing all Avenues of game. Nail those things 1st and then you BUILD on it.
On a side not I think they should also reach out to guys who are passionate about helping getting LIVE back at the Top. Get some On-Line Players, get some CAP and CAT guys, get some Roster Makers, get some ON-Line Players, Get some Off-Line Players and brainstorm with them.
I have already Tweeted a couple EA guys offering to help out any way I could, I would LOVE to see some of the other guys who are SERIOUS about improving LIVE Tweet them as well. Let them know we WANT them to succeed. And i believe getting back in touch with their Fan Base is a Great way to go about it.
Never gonna happen. EA doesnt care about you. They dont want to "reach out" to anyone. They would much rather just "reach in" to your wallet.
Never gonna happen. EA doesnt care about you. They dont want to "reach out" to anyone. They would much rather just "reach in" to your wallet.
Everyone has their opinion, but with EA losing out on the revenue from NCAA football, they NEED Live to succeed. From all accounts IF they dont make MAJOR changes in LIVE15, no one will consider letting them in their wallet.
You are probably right they will just Ignore what I have said and my Tweets, but you never know. At least I can say I made the effort.
I could live with quite a few of its current issues IF it handled like even a ps3/360 game. It doesn't. It's stiff and the animations are extremely robotic. There are early PS3/Xbox 360 games that possess far more clean and flowing movements than this game...
EA has to do so much to catch up. There one opportunity to get a leg up with a chance of more than 1 dev cycle of time and they blew it. Now they must fix on a year to year basis. It starts with upper management giving adequate resources, time and talent lined up to make a true basketball game. After playing the demo it is clear that they didn't have enough resources, talent or time to get things going in the right direction. They have been adding small elements to what what was elite 11 and tweaking some things to get where there are at 14 which is still far behind. The dribbling looks good but besides that you don't have a very good basketball game. What happened to some resemblance of physics/ignite? What does these games share as far as movement? Why do players in FIFA don't run like players in Live, Madden etc. I am not saying they should be the same but Live movement is just bad.
They need a movetech to get the players movement right. Context of animations the animations themselves are just bad overall
They need a "John Madden" of basketball to instill some true basketball principles IMO that will put pressure on top management to either get with better basketball or get out the game entirely. Basically an outside real NBA basketball analyst/purist with credentials that will not stand for a half-baked product.
I hate to say this but EA needs to stick a fork in NBA Live. It's done. It's a wrap. Give up all the licenses.
They need to go the route of NFL 2k8 and make a fictitional basketball game with fake teams and players. Fake arenas. Fake announcers. All fake everything.
This way they won't be held to the expectation of realism and they can give people a fun change of pace from the game that most closely represents that realism.
I wouldn't go the NBA Street route but something that looks like basketball where they won't be held to the standard of actual NBA players and their likenesses.
I know it's wishful thinking because of all the $$$ at stake but I think it's the best idea. Give up the licenses and allow another studio to take on making the game because when it comes to EA and the NBA, they just can't get it right.
If you try to build next year off the '14 foundation, there may be improvement but not enough to move the needle that it would make an impact. Possibly in '16 but by then the other game will be so far ahead that it'll be fruitless.
That's a LONG list. From a financial standpoint if a game is that badly screwed up the company isn't going to waste the resources to fix it when it isn't generating enough revenue.
great list; But this list won't ever be completed, without turning the game into 2K!
EA must have had at least 3/4 of that list on all their black/chalk/white boards, but they didn't have time!!!!
Live14 is their only foundation going forward, and it appears to be on shaky ground! Everything you do and see in Live14, is in NBA ELITE! (and that's SCARY).
Don't get me totally wrong here; Live's ESPN package is real nooice! It's just that everything else falls way short of being finished!
Now, I do have a quick analogy: Building as House vs NBA LIVE 14;
You start with a foundation (of course, you have a construction plan *); maybe EA has one?
You plan on the time of year that you would like to start building! (Does make a difference when you start your project); EA, used some parts, and an old foundation* for LIVE14
You start construction on your home! EA has been placing things inside this "foundation", trying to see what fits where*
While building your home; there are certain "procedures", "Steps" while erecting you house! Once again, EA, is just trying to place pieces in the house frame, that they don't really have***
The frame is up and you can now take your time and complete your home in an ordinary fashion!!! EA has given US the "frame" of the house, and has told US that they will be adding pieces on,"On the FLY!!!" Does that not alarm any of you?
EA has rushed this game out, and has no real direction!!
The list JY has presented would be of a good foundation; but EA cannot implement half of those things because it won't FIT!!!!! So don't think any great fixes for this year! $60 is not worth the headaches it would give a die hard LIVE series fan!
I hate to say this but EA needs to stick a fork in NBA Live. It's done. It's a wrap. Give up all the licenses.
They need to go the route of NFL 2k8 and make a fictitional basketball game with fake teams and players. Fake arenas. Fake announcers. All fake everything.
This way they won't be held to the expectation of realism and they can give people a fun change of pace from the game that most closely represents that realism.
I wouldn't go the NBA Street route but something that looks like basketball where they won't be held to the standard of actual NBA players and their likenesses.
I know it's wishful thinking because of all the $$$ at stake but I think it's the best idea. Give up the licenses and allow another studio to take on making the game because when it comes to EA and the NBA, they just can't get it right.
If you try to build next year off the '14 foundation, there may be improvement but not enough to move the needle that it would make an impact. Possibly in '16 but by then the other game will be so far ahead that it'll be fruitless.
I said it before and I'll say it again:
^^ Bring this back, as it was, and all will be forgiven. Live can die if this is awesome, and I personally don't think anybody will feel too bad. It'd be good for the gaming world, good for the sport, and good for the fans.
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