Is there a kryptonite vs the dreaded WIDE OPEN shot Brick?

[Ramboooo]

Do I have to have some special signature skill to make a WIDE OPEN jumper? Fffs. It's like taking a shot with the guy 2 ft away = a better shot. So annoying. Way to PUNISH the OPEN shot. That's great basketball logic... Don't even get me started on the comeback logic..

[Ramboooo]

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this game is fundamentally flawed until it rewards open shots and punishes contested shots. it's like opposite basketball. a shot with a defender 5 ft away is better than a shot with a defender 20 ft away. where is the basketball logic in that????? when you are REWARDING bad basketball and punishing good basketball it throws the whole entire strategy out of wack. Why work for an open shot if it is actually worse basketball (in 2K14's world).

My advice, if you're making a new my player, no need to create a shooter. It's a waste of time. You can have perfect release, have the nearest defender pickin his butt under the hoop, and have every shooter signature skill, it's not going to matter if the nba 2k gods have decided you're not making that shot because it has to adhere to some predetermined shot percentage to make the stats appear realistic. We should be controlling the success rate instead of some predetermined number of misses.

[RajonRondo9Celtics]

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No one makes every shot, wide open shots aren't always supposed to go in. Ray Allen misses plenty of open shots and he's considered one of the better shooters in the league.

Shot success is user determined, if you get a perfect release it has a better chance of going it. I wouldn't want perfect shots to always go in, otherwise people would be jackin 3's with people who have no business out there

[Jay62107]

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No one makes every shot, wide open shots aren't always supposed to go in. Ray Allen misses plenty of open shots and he's considered one of the better shooters in the league.

Shot success is user determined, if you get a perfect release it has a better chance of going it. I wouldn't want perfect shots to always go in, otherwise people would be jackin 3's with people who have no business out there

That's not the point. The point is if you have a shooter with multiple shooting signature skills even if you get a perfect release you never know if the shot is going in. I've never been a great 3pt shooter on 2K games but I've always had a great mid range game, and this year even when I have a open shot I start questioning whether I'm going to make it before I even start my shot.

[sops]

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No one makes every shot, wide open shots aren't always supposed to go in. Ray Allen misses plenty of open shots and he's considered one of the better shooters in the league.

Shot success is user determined, if you get a perfect release it has a better chance of going it. I wouldn't want perfect shots to always go in, otherwise people would be jackin 3's with people who have no business out there

That's not the point, no one claims that ALL open shots or even most of them have to go in, what's annoying, unrealistic and illogical is the way the game handles shots- you will make the same % of shots whether they're contested or not, you can miss 4-5 A+ (perfect release/perfect range/no contest) in a row but then make a bunch of C+ shots and the same goes for AI/CPU.

[QB1N]

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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10092734/kyle-korver-atlanta-hawks-goes-90-straight-games-3-set-nba-mark

Anyone feel like justifying Korver missing wide open shots to the tune of 0-4 multiple games ?

Lets see now...

I call a play.
Korver gets wide open.
I pass to Korver. He shoots A+ all green.
This happens 4 times throughout the game.
Every shot results in a brick with the exception of the 3rd which is an airball.

Situations like this make me question whether or not the developers even keep up with players real life shooting consistencies...

Ill be the first to admit that even the best shooters miss wide open shots, but the ratio of contested makes over wide open shots for the totality of players in the game is skewed horribly. Ive had games where someone pulls in my face repeatedly and cashs C or below quality shots. But when I call plays or freestyle PnPs or PnRs into passes for wide open looks I come up empty more times than the contested player.

Now anyone that watches basketball enough knows that certain players shoot better when their shots are CONTESTED, however this is a very small number, and this is why these players are considered stars because they can create something out of nothing. These are obviously the Kobes, Melos, Durants, etc... But to have scrubs doing this in 2k is disrespectful to the strategy and fundamental aspects of basketball because it basically makes it ok for people to pick up 2k and not know a thing about basketball and outplay someone who is a basketball guru. This should not be the case. People have to learn how to get good shots, not get bailed out consistently.

[Ramboooo]

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everytime I use my SG instead of my big man on blacktop I feel like smashing the effn disk. god forbid I take an outside shot. holy crap this game is programmed so random with which shots it wants you to make and which ones it doesn't. combine that with comeback logic and it's a free for all as far as what is a quality shot and what isn't.

REWARD THE OPEN SHOT, PUNISH THE CONTESTED SHOT!! It's not effn rocket science. Getting this simple black and white thing wrong throws the entire game out of wack.

patch!

[Ghostf4cekhila1234]

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consistency 65

mid 52
3pt 37

jumpshot defense release fixes it

[nip83]

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I have made the following observations playing on all-star and above with simulation settings.

1.It's no big deal really shooting 30%-40% from wide open threes.It's realistic.The big problem is shooting 48%-60% on semi-contested shots from three.

2.This problem carries on into the paint.I've missed a ton of open layups,close shots and shots from the post with the defender beat,and at the same time the efficiency at which contested shots in the paint go in is alarming.Unless your defender blocks the shot(which is more common when you have space than when you don't) all contested layups go in.The 20% that doesn't is a sure foul.

3.It's so easily identifiable that i purposely have played a defense(vs CPU) around leaving shooters open from 3 and giving them room to shoot in the paint.The result:Block Party!!Whenever i cut off angles and cover the ball with no room, i get to see the opposing 6.0 point guard making contested layup over a 7.0 center straight through their arms.

4.I have a theory that the high driving contact and inside shot contact sliders of the simulation setting are partly to blame.The game is geared towards jumping defense and if a jumping block is mistimed the shot is considered wide open.The hands up defense is almost nonexistant inside and close and applies to mid range shots only.I haven't extensively tested with contact sliders very low ,but the result was unrealistic with paint defense become non existant.If someone has solved the problem of contested shots going in with sliders please inform us.

For all the online players,good luck to you.I admire your patience.

[kintzshianye]

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I wouldn't want perfect shots to always go in

[nip83]

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I wouldn't want perfect shots to always go in

So you like it when you shoot 50-60% on contested shots?
Have you ever had games where you shot 50-55% from three because you only took 3pters with a defender 5 feet away?Even the cpu abandons wide open threes,except from the corners.You consider the above percentages realistic?

[xerxes313]

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I felt your pain on the 360 but on the x1 with sim sliders I make my perfect release mid range shots. Though I only get about one or two a game so perhaps my sample size is too small.

[kmoser]

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Is the open shot brick on next gen?

[bo.jangles344]

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With an 83 3pt rating I should be shooting at LEAST high 30's or low 40's on wide open shots on black top. This isn't the case, most if the time if I need a 3 I have to dribble into the defender and pull up in his face. This is not realistic. Especially when the other guy makes the fade away leaning almost out of bounds shot like a hose in a bucket. This also goes for mid range. I recently turned on shot feedback for blacktop and I make more late releases and c+ quality shots than A+/a+.

However, I'll take blocked dunks on blacktop over making more 3's like last year.

[MrBallaBoy21]

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I can't buy an open jumpshot in teamup right now. Durant 90 3pt just went 0-4 on wide open shots. My career 3pt% went from 50%+ to 35% in no time. When the game first came out i made the expected amount of open 3s now none of them go in. Durant, Klay Thompson, Channing Frye, Gordon Hayward, i can't make an open 3pt shot with anyone. This is just depressing.