NBA 2K14 Patch #3 Submitted - Gameplay & Various MyPlayer Issues to be Addressed

[SPRINGS03]

Re: NBA 2K14 Patch #3 Submitted - Gameplay & Various MyPlayer Issues to be Addressed

It's not that easy to provide patch notes.

Patches are typically hundreds of individual source code check-ins and providing all of them would be more than overkill... for one thing, someone would have to figure out which changes were related to what big-c Changes.. probably discuss with the engineer responsible for the change and find out what the deal with it was (a lot of times the descriptions engineers provide on their own are not enough for, or maybe even not understandable by a general audience).

It would probably take days to create patch notes for the patch, when you should really be worrying about it coming out ASAP and further issues being addressed, rather than anally documenting this bunch of fixes.

Besides, in an atmosphere like this, it would just be used for people to say 'smh where's [x]??' or 'it didn't work' or new patch requests with pet issues.

Nonsense, other games release patch notes all the time, why is 2k an exception. Hell even battlefield 4 has patch notes. Being vague about what a patch fixes isn't a good idea, specifics are necessary.

[WISports]

Re: NBA 2K14 Patch #3 Submitted - Gameplay & Various MyPlayer Issues to be Addressed

KD and ante both look good already

and im not sure what yo mean about torso and length options theyre still there

No they don't. Not even close. They still haven't captured the true lankiness of players like them. Their legs in real life are twigs. And their body/waist should be thinner.


And there is no torso or leg length edits now. There's an edit for body. They took the other two out. With those other edits, you could make guys look so much better. And when you would increase leg length, their legs would actually get skinnier. Trust me, I was able to make Durant look MUCH more like him.

[Dynastyyy]

Re: NBA 2K14 Patch #3 Submitted - Gameplay & Various MyPlayer Issues to be Addressed

I don't have to think about it. I've patiently waited for answers. I'm a paying customer who isn't satisfied with my product. As a business owner and one who deals largely with the public I can't imagine avoiding my good paying customers with the excuse of "I'm not allowed to talk about it". Whether they consider it a failure or not should matter little to anyone who's unhappy with the product they were sold.

I go above and beyond to give my customers an honest response when things don't go according to their plan. I don't get why the video game industry gets a free pass to push out inferior products while expecting us to answer to them. It doesn't work that way anywhere else.

I certainly don't feel as though I ripped anyone. Expecting an honest and frank level of customer service is far from unreasonable.

No offense but im guessing your business doesn't depend on a single product that is rebuilt annually. It's also probably not dissected by loyal fans in a dedicated online forum that is boggled down by people who vent redundantly over minor issues & fail to recognize the reality of the situation along with viable solutions. 2k will have some details whenever they get the patch out. With all the improvements that need to and hopefully are being made listing every detail is unnecessary and relatively unimportant.

[RangersCruz]

Re: NBA 2K14 Patch #3 Submitted - Gameplay & Various MyPlayer Issues to be Addressed

No they don't. Not even close. They still haven't captured the true lankiness of players like them. Their legs in real life are twigs. And their body/waist should be thinner.


And there is no torso or leg length edits now. There's an edit for body. They took the other two out. With those other edits, you could make guys look so much better. And when you would increase leg length, their legs would actually get skinnier. Trust me, I was able to make Durant look MUCH more like him.

idk to me he looks lanky enough i just wish i could make him a KD lanky type player in MyCareer

[WickedFastball]

Re: NBA 2K14 Patch #3 Submitted - Gameplay & Various MyPlayer Issues to be Addressed

Every game I have ever played that had patches come out, explained WHAT the patches were intended to FIX!!! PERIOD!!!!
I don't understand why you are making these silly excuses!!!

[Glenn33]

Re: NBA 2K14 Patch #3 Submitted - Gameplay & Various MyPlayer Issues to be Addressed

....but the patch hasn't come out yet.

[YoungBuck3]

Re: NBA 2K14 Patch #3 Submitted - Gameplay & Various MyPlayer Issues to be Addressed

It's not that easy to provide patch notes.

Patches are typically hundreds of individual source code check-ins and providing all of them would be more than overkill... for one thing, someone would have to figure out which changes were related to what big-c Changes.. probably discuss with the engineer responsible for the change and find out what the deal with it was (a lot of times the descriptions engineers provide on their own are not enough for, or maybe even not understandable by a general audience).

It would probably take days to create patch notes for the patch, when you should really be worrying about it coming out ASAP and further issues being addressed, rather than anally documenting this bunch of fixes.

Besides, in an atmosphere like this, it would just be used for people to say 'smh where's [x]??' or 'it didn't work' or new patch requests with pet issues.

People aren't looking for technical information or the process behind it from patch notes, they simply want to know what was addressed. Like pretty much every other game does when they patch.

Not jumping on the hate bandwagon yet because the patch hasn't even been released, but to make it out like it is some giant task to provide patch notes is pretty funny.

[Smirkin Dirk]

Re: NBA 2K14 Patch #3 Submitted - Gameplay & Various MyPlayer Issues to be Addressed

Not jumping on the hate bandwagon yet because the patch hasn't even been released, but to make it out like it is some giant task to provide patch notes is pretty funny.

Eaxctly. They used to do it in the past, and DICE have just done it with Battlefield.

[The Timber Wolf]

Re: NBA 2K14 Patch #3 Submitted - Gameplay & Various MyPlayer Issues to be Addressed

This patch had better be GREAT. I have had to spend the past few days playing NBA Live as my 2K14 simply has way, way too many bugs. I need this game to be fixed. Live is semi okay / borderline terrible. I didn't pay all this money for my PS4 to step 10 years back in time. I am REALLY annoyed with 2K at this point. This patch needs to be great.


My career won't load anymore and I sure as hell aint starting a new one until I know everything is fixed. This had better be a hell of a patch.

[RumbleCard]

Re: NBA 2K14 Patch #3 Submitted - Gameplay & Various MyPlayer Issues to be Addressed

No offense but im guessing your business doesn't depend on a single product that is rebuilt annually. It's also probably not dissected by loyal fans in a dedicated online forum that is boggled down by people who vent redundantly over minor issues & fail to recognize the reality of the situation along with viable solutions. 2k will have some details whenever they get the patch out. With all the improvements that need to and hopefully are being made listing every detail is unnecessary and relatively unimportant.

No offense taken. No one is more aware of the absurd expectations and largely unfounded nitpicky complaints that a company like 2k are inundated with on a regular basis. Which is why I rarely complain publicly and generally look to quell the overreacting crowd. Lets not forget that 2K's reputation was built on being straightforward and dealing with the community on a level field.

But somewhere along the line they decided it was better to stop doing that. I think that's a horrible decision and one that will cost them customers, even some long term customers.

When you build a giant you have to be prepared for all that comes with it. You can't just arbitrarily decide that you're going to be vague and reclusive because some complaints are big problems while others are minor in comparison. There's nothing wrong with picking and choosing your battles but deal with it openly and most of us will understand.

You can't please everyone but nothing is a bigger turn off or more insulting than a failure to respond. There were no patch notes the last time around and its sounding like they're going to beat around the bush on this one too.

Have you ever had to deal with Amazon? They're a giant in my opinion. They also have great customer service and you can typically get someone on the phone in less than 10 minutes. Even though I don't think ebay does enough to protect their sellers they're another big company that has good customer service and responds quickly and honestly to customer complaints.

When you get your car fixed its not unreasonable to ask and be told exactly what happened, what went wrong and how it was fixed.

[Bbrock0]

Re: NBA 2K14 Patch #3 Submitted - Gameplay & Various MyPlayer Issues to be Addressed

I strongly disagree with whomever says that patch notes are an unrealistic expectation. It literally would take at most 30 minutes to generate, and probably much less.

For instance;

Patch 3
- increased player chances catching alley oop passes in mycareer
- decreased cpu alley oop effectiveness in all modes
- setting changes should now be permanently saved in all modes
- roles have been removed for mygm
- playbooks now work correctly
- CE-34878 crash errors have been fixed
- ETC ETC

It's not going to take all that long. And if it does, it's because 2K released a buggy piece of $&!*

[King_B_Mack]

Re: NBA 2K14 Patch #3 Submitted - Gameplay & Various MyPlayer Issues to be Addressed

This highlights the issue of when one company has a monopoly over the market.

Go somewhere with this factually incorrect nonsense.

[Smirkin Dirk]

Re: NBA 2K14 Patch #3 Submitted - Gameplay & Various MyPlayer Issues to be Addressed

Go somewhere with this factually incorrect nonsense.

2K has had a monopoly over the basketball game market for years.

Do you disagree?

[VDusen04]

Re: NBA 2K14 Patch #3 Submitted - Gameplay & Various MyPlayer Issues to be Addressed

2K has had a monopoly over the basketball game market for years.

Do you disagree?

It's not a monopoly in any true sense. They're the only feasible game in the market because everyone else has released abominations in recent years (or just dropped out altogether). Live has every opportunity to step up and create a better game. They're not being prevented by 2K and a supposed monopoly. They're being prevented because they're making terrible games.

To King_B_Mack, I believe we spoke a week ago regarding folks using "monopoly" in a non-literal sense. I stand corrected, some truly appear to believe 2K holds an actual monopoly. Still, I tend to assume most people just mean it as a way of explaining 2K's lack of urgency due to there being no other feasible options on the market (because other options can't make themselves not really suck). But then again, perhaps I'm wrong about that as well.

[King_B_Mack]

Re: NBA 2K14 Patch #3 Submitted - Gameplay & Various MyPlayer Issues to be Addressed

It's not a monopoly in any true sense. They're the only feasible game in the market because everyone else has released abominations in recent years (or just dropped out altogether). Live has every opportunity to step up and create a better game. They're not being prevented by 2K and a supposed monopoly. They're being prevented because they're making terrible games.

To King_B_Mack, I believe we spoke a week ago regarding folks using "monopoly" in a non-literal sense. I stand corrected, some truly appear to believe 2K holds an actual monopoly. Still, I tend to assume most people still just mean it as a way of explaining 2K's lack of urgency due to there being no other feasible options on the market (because other options can't make themselves not super suck). But then again, perhaps I'm wrong about that as well.

Told you man. People actually have no clue what a monopoly is. It's sad to be honest. This is the problem I have with everyone deciding to go ahead and use this next gen release as reason to just have free reign on railing 2K. They made some poor choices with this game, that much is clear by the feedback, but to try to paint it as if they've been Madden for the last four years is a load of crap.