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  • enserio
    Rookie
    • Nov 2013
    • 24

    #1

    Input lag in Online games is now supermegaultra INTENSE, horribly

    Blame the patch #3 or not, the sad truth is that Onlines games are now almost unplayable because this horrible input lag. I have the best internet connection (60M with cable tv provider) and the game response after pushing any button is like almost 1 sec delay. Unacceptable when compared with fully loaded online games like COD Ghost where several thousand of players play smoothly.
    What happened??? Patch #3 did it even worse?
  • Find_the_Door
    Nogueira connoisseur
    • Jan 2012
    • 4051

    #2
    Re: Input lag in Online games is now supermegaultra INTENSE, horribly

    I agree.

    This input lag issue cannot be put on the back burner - this affects all online portions of the game and is completely unacceptable.

    It's so bad that I'm now forced to shoot with Square as it's a bit more responsive than the shot stick. The shot stick has such a horrendous delay (r stick on defense too).
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    • quehouston
      Cheeseproof.com
      • Nov 2008
      • 723

      #3
      Re: Input lag in Online games is now supermegaultra INTENSE, horribly

      Wait, the lag is worse post patch?

      I was primarily an Online Ranked player on CG, but after experiencing the lag online on Next gen on launch night (somehow still managed to win), I haven't touched online ranked since. I have played a few with some people from OS, but the lag made all of the games unplayable.

      I really can't imagine it getting any worse, but if this is the case there's really no point in playing online at all.
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      • Rasco11
        MVP
        • Aug 2002
        • 1330

        #4
        Re: Input lag in Online games is now supermegaultra INTENSE, horribly

        It's hard to play in any mode, human or CPU. It really is a "game breaker" to me as well. Feel like I have no control. For what it's worth, I don't feel the isomotion on offense is much better, control wise.

        I really thought this would be tuned with this patch! Pretty bummed. It's become clear to me this game will need a full cycle (or more) to polish up the controls and all the under the hood AI.

        (Side Note) Unfortunately I think a lot of 2K's player ratings, tendencies and coaching styles are so out of whack it isn't helping. Or even the plays for that matter. Using STATS, Inc or something (as I thought they said they would, daily) could improve this area significantly. Hope they implement that. Right now Loul Deng and Stephen Jackson are equal rating wise 79ovr. Yikes!

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        • Find_the_Door
          Nogueira connoisseur
          • Jan 2012
          • 4051

          #5
          Re: Input lag in Online games is now supermegaultra INTENSE, horribly

          Hopefully this issue is fixed as I haven't even played save for one game since the patch dropped.
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          • Mintsa
            All Star
            • Jul 2002
            • 6668

            #6
            Re: Input lag in Online games is now supermegaultra INTENSE, horribly

            Is this in both systems or just ps4 online??

            I haven't gone next gen yet. But if this is the case I gave no desire to get this game/new system right as a only play online.

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            • RayZLAL
              Pro
              • Feb 2012
              • 506

              #7
              Re: Input lag in Online games is now supermegaultra INTENSE, horribly

              Has anyone went back to CG to just play online? Does it input lag like NG?

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              • EarvGotti
                MVP
                • Nov 2009
                • 2249

                #8
                Re: Input lag in Online games is now supermegaultra INTENSE, horribly

                Just do what I did and stop playing this game completely. 2K won't get it until they see the number of players go down. If you settle for playing offline modes, this gives 2K the illusion that most people like offline and they will focus most of their energy there.

                Sad to say but my next-gen experience is way worse than my current-gen experience.
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                • keshunleon
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 2111

                  #9
                  Re: Input lag in Online games is now supermegaultra INTENSE, horribly

                  Yeah, I was playing online today team up and the lag was bad.

                  Passing, shooting, rebounding, everything.
                  True bout my business, Mane!

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                  • shegotgame
                    Pro
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 679

                    #10
                    Input lag in Online games is now supermegaultra INTENSE, horribly

                    Originally posted by EarvGotti
                    Just do what I did and stop playing this game completely. 2K won't get it until they see the number of players go down. If you settle for playing offline modes, this gives 2K the illusion that most people like offline and they will focus most of their energy there.



                    Sad to say but my next-gen experience is way worse than my current-gen experience.

                    Earv,
                    Offline the game can (emphasis on can) play like a dream. But online is big. If I can't play against humans (much like years ago where you would play at a person's house), then I cannot come close to fully enjoying this game.

                    I might buy the other game. Right now I'm playing a lot of FIFA.

                    As far as 2K, I will be offline until I hear a good word from a rep or the community regarding a smoother online experience.

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                    • reptilexcq
                      Pro
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 950

                      #11
                      Re: Input lag in Online games is now supermegaultra INTENSE, horribly

                      The lag is due the horrible gameplay that rely heavily on animations to execute every single moves. Until they change the game play mechanics and make it user friendly to control, it will continue to be so even if you have good connection, it doesn't really matter. I imagine if Shigeru Miyamoto is checking on NBA2k game, he would say the control is HORRRIBLE. It's not responsive and there is always a delay of game responsiveness due to the fact that you can't really break all the animations at any time.

                      For example, if you try to reach and steal the ball w/ a player as the dribbler dribbling up the court, the animations of reaching and stealing is so ridiculous slow that by the time the animation is finished, the dribbler had already gone 10 feet ahead of you. I never EVER SEEN THAT in an actual NBA GAME EVER! And you can't run and reach and steal at the same time because if you do, you're initializing that same animations where the dribbler can run and blow by you before you can recover. If you look at NBA2k7 and compare that to NBA2K14...it's night and day in regard to control responsiveness. That is why NBA2k7 is also the MOST responsive game online as well.

                      NBA2k14 basically looks good but play crappy. Until 2K have the gut to change their game play (STOP the HEAVY USE OF ANIMATIONS as gameplay), it will remain the same.

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                      • Optik
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 1025

                        #12
                        Re: Input lag in Online games is now supermegaultra INTENSE, horribly

                        Originally posted by reptilexcq
                        The lag is due the horrible gameplay that rely heavily on animations to execute every single moves. Until they change the game play mechanics and make it user friendly to control, it will continue to be so even if you have good connection, it doesn't really matter. I imagine if Shigeru Miyamoto is checking on NBA2k game, he would say the control is HORRRIBLE. It's not responsive and there is always a delay of game responsiveness due to the fact that you can't really break all the animations at any time.

                        For example, if you try to reach and steal the ball w/ a player as the dribbler dribbling up the court, the animations of reaching and stealing is so ridiculous slow that by the time the animation is finished, the dribbler had already gone 10 feet ahead of you. I never EVER SEEN THAT in an actual NBA GAME EVER! And you can't run and reach and steal at the same time because if you do, you're initializing that same animations where the dribbler can run and blow by you before you can recover. If you look at NBA2k7 and compare that to NBA2K14...it's night and day in regard to control responsiveness. That is why NBA2k7 is also the MOST responsive game online as well.

                        NBA2k14 basically looks good but play crappy. Until 2K have the gut to change their game play (STOP the HEAVY USE OF ANIMATIONS as gameplay), it will remain the same.
                        What would you have instead of animations? This argument makes no sense to me. There has never been a basketball game that has successfully implemented a real-life physics system that works, so if it 2K know that they can't make it work now, what's wrong with animations? Besides that, exactly how are you supposed to shoot, dribble, run etc. without animations.

                        Regarding the Japanese producer you just name-dropped, no doubt he is successful in the gaming sector, but I cannot give any sort of value to an opinion from someone who makes Super Mario games, so to use him as an appeal to authority is the worst way to commit that logical fallacy. NBA 2K is supposed to be a basketball simulation, not a game where you can flatten giant ants and jump whilst already in mid-air.

                        Whilst the stealing system could use some work, you can't use that as an indictment of the entire gameplay being based on animations. In real-life, if you attempt a running steal you DO risk the chance of being blown by. You can't just decide you want to cancel your action and perfectly recover whenever you want to. You can't just turn on a dime when you feel like it. Momentum has to be respected. You can't just break out of a dribble when you feel like it. You have to wait for the ball to bounce off the court.

                        You can never have full control in a basketball sim, because in real-life you never have full control anyway. What you're asking for is an arcade game where you can do what you want whenever you want, regardless of where you are and what velocity you were travelling at.
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                        • keshunleon
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 2111

                          #13
                          Re: Input lag in Online games is now supermegaultra INTENSE, horribly

                          Originally posted by Optik
                          What would you have instead of animations? This argument makes no sense to me. There has never been a basketball game that has successfully implemented a real-life physics system that works, so if it 2K know that they can't make it work now, what's wrong with animations? Besides that, exactly how are you supposed to shoot, dribble, run etc. without animations.

                          Regarding the Japanese producer you just name-dropped, no doubt he is successful in the gaming sector, but I cannot give any sort of value to an opinion from someone who makes Super Mario games, so to use him as an appeal to authority is the worst way to commit that logical fallacy. NBA 2K is supposed to be a basketball simulation, not a game where you can flatten giant ants and jump whilst already in mid-air.

                          Whilst the stealing system could use some work, you can't use that as an indictment of the entire gameplay being based on animations. In real-life, if you attempt a running steal you DO risk the chance of being blown by. You can't just decide you want to cancel your action and perfectly recover whenever you want to. You can't just turn on a dime when you feel like it. Momentum has to be respected. You can't just break out of a dribble when you feel like it. You have to wait for the ball to bounce off the court.

                          You can never have full control in a basketball sim, because in real-life you never have full control anyway. What you're asking for is an arcade game where you can do what you want whenever you want, regardless of where you are and what velocity you were travelling at.
                          People (including myself) have complained for the past 3+ years about the animations.

                          The animations are toooooo slowwwww and tooooo longgggggg!

                          There is an animation in the game where the defender will bump into you and you will lose control and stumble 2 or 3 steps. It is triggered during certain situations when you press shoot or pass . The issue is once the animation is over the player will still shoot or pass it regardless.

                          If we could break out the animation it wouldn't be so bad.

                          The lose the ball animation is so bad! The player will go into that animation and you can't pick up the ball allowing the defender to pick it up at an extremely high rate.

                          So think of slow animations offline and it will be a huge lag online.
                          Last edited by keshunleon; 12-22-2013, 09:36 PM.
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                          • enserio
                            Rookie
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 24

                            #14
                            Re: Input lag in Online games is now supermegaultra INTENSE, horribly

                            how is possible, from a business point of view, that a Patch may destroy a gameplay?
                            there is no respect toward customers.

                            The post-patch online lag is big and now next-gen online is absolutely unplayable. No joke, this game is broken.

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                            • Find_the_Door
                              Nogueira connoisseur
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 4051

                              #15
                              Re: Input lag in Online games is now supermegaultra INTENSE, horribly

                              Originally posted by enserio
                              how is possible, from a business point of view, that a Patch may destroy a gameplay?
                              there is no respect toward customers.

                              The post-patch online lag is big and now next-gen online is absolutely unplayable. No joke, this game is broken.
                              It definitely needs to be addressed, hell at this point at least acknowledge it.
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