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  • KayOtic723
    Pro
    • Sep 2011
    • 794

    #1

    Let's Ball Baby SIM 10 minute Quarter Sliders (Back to the Basics PS4)

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    Let's Ball Baby As of 1/21/14 Sliders have been made to use with Turty11's rosters http://www.operationsports.com/forum...s4-roster.html The reason i like using OS made rosters because..2k Default rosters are not that good and tendencies edits are WAY better these rosters are real in depth and work will with the sliders Any OS made rosters are better than 2k default as they fix many tendencies problems so you can use ANY OS made rosters SkyC and truty11 are the two i have used if you want to use 2k default rosters set the first 7 tendencies ratings to 50

    PLEASE READ NOTES BEFORE USING SLIDERS THEY WILL HELP

    Welcome to my sliders…I have been using sliders and tweaking sliders for 2k for about 3 yrs and this is the first time I have tried to come up with my own set first I want to give thanks to JW's HOF sliders for helping me understand the boost effect at higher levels those are very hard challenging sliders and give them a try if thats what your looking for…. I have played around with these sliders a lot and are loving the feel for them now (as i did when i started lol but feel like these are close to final)

    -better D rotation Trying to find the balance between Help D on the pick and roll and not allowing so many open threes. The Help D sliders is the ONE sliders that control this. I found if you leave it at 50 the help D for the pick n roll comes to fast and leaves shooters open for threes all day. So i put it to the extreme of 100 and that left the lane WAY to open after pick n rolls. So now i have came up with a setting that is a balance of the two.

    12 minute Quarters I started these sliders as 10 minute quarters sliders because no matter what I did couldn't get scores down from the 120 point games. I have figured out how to lower scores while playing 12 minute qrts with lowering consistency and shooting sliders

    GameSpeed This is what these sliders are based off of the main Constant of the set is the game speed tweaked a little bit but not much..game feels so sluggish to me on other settings

    Awareness The other Constant these have not been change since I started these sliders many reason being that players IQ on default are about as good as 8th grade basketball logic…You will see pump fakes and extra passes smarter Defense of plays all because of two sliders

    No more CPU unstoppable runs This I promise you can shun me if you feel other wise lol…Now CPU will go on runs be they will be able to stop

    Steps to stopping CPU runs 1.Call TimeOuts- Now that Consistency is lower they help a lot more and don't wait untill they go on a 15 to 5 run call it….Soon as they score 6 or 8 points straight or when you Turn the ball over 2 or 3 possession in the row that lead to easy basketball call a TO…also while in timeout really use it! Change your Point of Emphasis look at your match ups gotta be a coach these sliders aren't made for easy use

    2.Use your star player- Call a couple of plays for him use your go to scoring play get easy shots try to draw a foul get to the line with him (if he is a good FT shooter)

    3. Play good Defense- Make them take tough shots trust me with these sliders they will not hit EVERYTHING if you have a hand close in their face make sure your not allowing Guards to drive to easy because if they kick it out to a good 3 pt shooter while the CPU is on a run its THREE GOGGLES

    I NEED MORE FEEDBACK
    The two people that have commented has help me Tremendously in improving these sliders….Now the sliders

    Updated 1/21/14 All changes are updated after testing setting for 10 games before posting new settings Means still testing Black means set in stone for long term testing

    Side note- Thanks for Erod findings I have being getting around the right % for FG and 3PT

    Ver 4


    Game Settings

    Difficulty: SS
    Game Speed: 70-73
    (depends on how fast you want the game to play but you have too stay in that range...
    personally i use 73 with the quickness and speed edits)
    Quarter length: 12 Minutes
    (i have only 1 game out of about 10 or 12 games in the 120's and that was rockets and warriors)
    Fatigue: On
    Injuries: On
    Shooting Type: Shot Stick
    FT Shooting Type: Shot Stick
    Free Throw Difficulty:75 (use 80 if this becomes too easy remember the avg FT 75.3 so if your shooting way higher than that go to 80)
    My Controller - Controller Settings
    Contest: Intense D
    Defensive Assist Strength:5 (so you can hold L2 and contest shots)


    Offense (H/C)
    Inside Shot Success: 43/40
    Close Shot Success: 43/40
    Mid-Range Success: 46/43
    3PT Success: 46/45
    Layup Success: 46/44
    Dunk in Traffic Frequency: 75
    Dunk in Traffic Success: 55
    Pass Accuracy: 57/56
    Alley-Oop Success: 52/50
    Contact Shot Success: 43

    Defense
    Driving Contact Shot Frequency: 85
    Inside Contact Shot Frequency: 100
    Layup Defense Strength TAKEOFF: 60
    Layup Defense Strength RELEASE: 70
    Jump Shot Defense Strength GATHER: 55
    Jump Shot Defense Strength RELEASE: 60
    Help Defense Strength: 65
    Steal Success: 55/50

    Attributes (H/C)
    Quickness:35/31
    (change the speed to compensate with the game speed helps with the high scoring games without compromising the quick dribbles fast passes and the "speed kills factor"
    Vertical:45/43
    Strength:100/30
    Stamina:50
    Speed:30/26
    (see quickness)
    Durability:50
    Hustle:50/46
    Ball Handling:65/57
    (players were losing the ball too much on the dribble and on default 50 big man couldn't even dribble with losing the ball this fixed that)
    Hands:15/5
    Dunking Ability:48/41
    On-Ball Defense:70/57
    Stealing:27/20
    Blocking:5
    Offensive Awareness:90
    Defensive Awareness:90
    Offensive Rebounding:47/43
    Defensive Rebounding:55/48
    Consistency:36
    Fatigue Rate:52

    Tendencies (H/C)
    The BIG CHANGE…the reason i put tendencies to 0 is because i want the roster tendencies edits show them self and they really do the players pull up for mid range jumpers now big man that play in the post get there touches only thing i am not seeing is the 3's even at 100 they still don't take that many league avg last yr were 20 a game so help with this will be amazing but all other tendencies at 0 have stop the every time there is the smallest chance to go to the basket they take it but now they pull up for the mid range

    Take Inside Shots:50/0
    Take Close Shots:50/0
    Take Mid-Range Shots:50/0
    Take 3Pt Shots:50/75
    Still not getting enough threes from the cpu I NEED HELP WITH THIS lol
    Post Shots:50/0
    Attack the Basket:50/0
    Look for Post Players:50/0
    Throw Alley-Oops:40
    Attempt Dunks:75
    Attempt Putbacks:65
    Play Passing Lanes:65
    Go for On-Ball Steals:50
    Contest Shots:75/50
    Backdoor Cuts:63

    Fouls (H/C)
    Over the Back Foul Frequency:65
    Charging Foul Frequency:75
    Blocking Foul Frequency:65
    Reaching Foul Frequency:75
    Shooting Foul Frequency:85
    Loose Ball Foul Frequency:65

    Please try these out and give feedback Thank you
    Last edited by KayOtic723; 01-26-2014, 08:09 PM.
  • KayOtic723
    Pro
    • Sep 2011
    • 794

    #2
    Re: Let's Ball Baby SIM 10 minute Quarter Sliders (Back to the Basics PS4)

    Video of Gameplay and Me explaining Sliders uploading now will be done in about a couple of hours no later than 10 pm est *update* its taking longer than expected but its on the way
    Last edited by KayOtic723; 12-24-2013, 04:10 PM.

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    • Abracadabra
      Rookie
      • Nov 2013
      • 43

      #3
      Re: Let's Ball Baby SIM 10 minute Quarter Sliders (Back to the Basics PS4)

      Reduce game speed you can have a box score around 100 points on 12 minutes quarters.
      73 is too much higher.

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      • KayOtic723
        Pro
        • Sep 2011
        • 794

        #4
        Re: Let's Ball Baby SIM 10 minute Quarter Sliders (Back to the Basics PS4)

        Originally posted by Abracadabra
        Reduce game speed you can have a box score around 100 points on 12 minutes quarters.
        73 is too much higher.
        I have played with game speed on 45 50 55 and 60 all had around high 100 games i don't mind having an 124-120 game ever now and then but just to many of them on 12 minutes no matter the game speed

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        • KayOtic723
          Pro
          • Sep 2011
          • 794

          #5
          Re: Let's Ball Baby SIM 10 minute Quarter Sliders (Back to the Basics PS4)

          After looking at the data at http://hoopdata.com/shotstats.aspx I've have found out that at the rim shots are taking more than any other shot than 3 point shots are taking 2nd most and deep mid range 3rd so I have made Tendencies changes to effect that 3-9 foot range which is close shot tendencies taking the less out of all shots

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          • erod550
            Rookie
            • Jul 2007
            • 153

            #6
            Re: Let's Ball Baby SIM 10 minute Quarter Sliders (Back to the Basics PS4)

            I like these so far. I don't know if it was because of it being on Superstar or what but the CPU's hands were waaaay to active. The Kings had 19 steals on me. I couldn't even pass it around the horn without someone getting that hand out there and poking it loose, and we all know who wins loose ball battles in this game. So I've turned CPU hands down to 0 and steals down to 20 and also CPU blocks down to 10 because there were just too many blocks happening where they'd leap from 10 feet away and block what should have been a wide open jumper.

            I also turned down all the CPU shooting sliders one notch too (mid-range down 2) because they were shooting 57%+ against me just like every other slider set I've tried. Now they're shooting right around 50% and in the 30-40% range from 3 instead of 40-50% from 3 and 55-60% overall. I also turned the fatigue rate down to 46 because at 54 in a back to back I was having my entire team be in the 60s for energy barely over halfway through the first quarter. That's too extreme imo.

            These are just my own findings, not saying everyone needs to make the same changes. But the base set gave me a good starting point and I've had a good mix of low scoring and high scoring games with a 93-94, 94-100, 112-115, and 101-89 so far.
            Last edited by erod550; 12-24-2013, 05:30 PM.

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            • Brooke2011
              MVP
              • Aug 2013
              • 1904

              #7
              Re: Let's Ball Baby SIM 10 minute Quarter Sliders (Back to the Basics PS4)

              Looking forward to the video of these sliders

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              • KayOtic723
                Pro
                • Sep 2011
                • 794

                #8
                Re: Let's Ball Baby SIM 10 minute Quarter Sliders (Back to the Basics PS4)

                Photos of the BoxScore and Shot chart from the game in the video on the first post
                Attached Files

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                • KayOtic723
                  Pro
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 794

                  #9
                  Re: Let's Ball Baby SIM 10 minute Quarter Sliders (Back to the Basics PS4)

                  Originally posted by Brooke2011
                  Looking forward to the video of these sliders
                  Just posted it on the First post

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                  • KayOtic723
                    Pro
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 794

                    #10
                    Re: Let's Ball Baby SIM 10 minute Quarter Sliders (Back to the Basics PS4)

                    Originally posted by erod550
                    I like these so far. I don't know if it was because of it being on Superstar or what but the CPU's hands were waaaay to active. The Kings had 19 steals on me. I couldn't even pass it around the horn without someone getting that hand out there and poking it loose, and we all know who wins loose ball battles in this game. So I've turned CPU hands down to 0 and steals down to 20 and also CPU blocks down to 10 because there were just too many blocks happening where they'd leap from 10 feet away and block what should have been a wide open jumper.

                    I also turned down all the CPU shooting sliders one notch too (mid-range down 2) because they were shooting 57%+ against me just like every other slider set I've tried. Now they're shooting right around 50% and in the 30-40% range from 3 instead of 40-50% from 3 and 55-60% overall. I also turned the fatigue rate down to 46 because at 54 in a back to back I was having my entire team be in the 60s for energy barely over halfway through the first quarter. That's too extreme imo.

                    These are just my own findings, not saying everyone needs to make the same changes. But the base set gave me a good starting point and I've had a good mix of low scoring and high scoring games with a 93-94, 94-100, 112-115, and 101-89 so far.
                    All really good points i am working on shot success as we speak i will try what you have said I do agree that the overall % are a little to high but i haven't had one game seen 55 or higher I agree 54 was too high moved it to 52 i might have two setting one for Quick play games and one for MyGm because of progressives fatigue i will try 49 for my test i will play an a back to back i have coming up in MyGm game also thought about changing the blocks on both sides for 10…so basically we are on the same page lol i think these are close though to what i want really want to get it to feel like the D has a chance to impact games which i don't feel too much on default or with other sliders I think missing shots and taking the occasionally bad shots has to much of a negative effect makes you scared to shoot some shots thanks for the feedback can't wait to try your changes
                    Last edited by KayOtic723; 12-24-2013, 09:40 PM.

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                    • KayOtic723
                      Pro
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 794

                      #11
                      Re: Let's Ball Baby SIM 10 minute Quarter Sliders (Back to the Basics PS4)

                      Going live on www.twitch.tv/hoopdrmduece2 try these new changes

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                      • erod550
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 153

                        #12
                        Re: Let's Ball Baby SIM 10 minute Quarter Sliders (Back to the Basics PS4)

                        Yea I'm not suggesting you make the same changes to your official set because it might just be my ability or lack thereof. Just sharing what changes I made to make the game more enjoyable for me.

                        Great set though. Most fun I've had playing the game so far. Now if I could just withstand those unstoppable CPU runs and win some games...

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                        • KayOtic723
                          Pro
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 794

                          #13
                          Re: Let's Ball Baby SIM 10 minute Quarter Sliders (Back to the Basics PS4)

                          What is happing to cause the run try using more timeouts and go to your best player when they start making runs be careful with keeping tired players in they take hit to there overall played two games with the changes you suggeted got good result please keep me up to date on how they are doing for you and if you lower consistency they won't stay hot for long period of time hope this helps

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                          • KayOtic723
                            Pro
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 794

                            #14
                            Re: Let's Ball Baby SIM 10 minute Quarter Sliders (Back to the Basics PS4)

                            These are almost finial in will just be doing a long test after i try real player % for shooting I think it takes out some of the skill element but I have tested everything but that so it will be my last test before long term testing

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                            • No Pressure
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 111

                              #15
                              Re: Let's Ball Baby SIM 10 minute Quarter Sliders (Back to the Basics PS4)

                              I tried these last night and noticed a few things. For one, it's almost impossible for me to create open 3's for my guys anymore. The CPU defense just reacts way too fast to any passes I make. Secondly, due this, I was forced to go inside where I absolutely dominated the game. CPU paint presence just wasn't there. The lane looked like a runway after every pick and roll. I completely whomped the CPU in points in the paint. Basically the CPU forced me to just take everything inside and I had a field day.

                              I'm not exactly sure what i'd tweak to fix this, I'd honestly prefer some room on the perimeter than being able to get to the rim and dominate the paint whenever I want. Just my 2 cents, not sure how everyone else sees it but that's really the only issue I have with this set.

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