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  • troy184
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    • Jul 2010
    • 452

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    Has anyone ever seen a Madden patch this in depth?

    Fixed an issue in The Park where matches were not starting appropriately, in addition to a large number of optimizations for this experience.
    Addressed a number of issues that were known to cause disconnects during head-to-head and Team-Up gameplay.
    Corrected an issue where an assigned dunk package would sometimes not be used in The Park.
    Fixed a number of issues that should result in a much more stable experience for users playing in Leagues.
    Addressed an issue where the user would encounter a lengthy blank black screen during the initial launch sequence in certain conditions.
    Fixed a bug where user Settings weren’t properly saving in specific situations.
    Fixed a case where the user would experience a loss of controller functionality despite having a controller turned on (XB1).
    Fixed a case where the user would enter into an unresponsive state after a second user signed in and then subsequently signed out (XB1).
    Fixed an issue where the title did not send game invites to all Xbox Party members when a user enters a joinable online matchmaking session (XB1).
    The title will now receive game invites if the user is already in an Xbox Party with the host (XB1).
    Addressed an issue where blocked users were allowed to enter matchmaking with each other (XB1).
    Fixed an issue where the title would shut down when resuming from low-power standby (XB1).
    GAMEPLAY
    Slightly reduced the shot % penalty on fouls in order to create more appropriate ‘and-1’ situations.
    Tuned shooting percentages such that they fall more in line with our expected results.
    Addressed an issue where teams would call timeouts back-to-back in certain situations.
    Fixed an issue where the camera would sometimes stay on the scorer after a made shoot, often resulting in a 5-second inbound violation.
    Passes are now more accurate along the sideline, on fast breaks, and when passed to receivers who are in the middle of coming to a stop.
    Shortened the distance receivers are led down court (when passing) during regular transition (non-fast break) offense.
    Fixed an issue where the rebound button would sometimes be ignored when engaged in a boxout.
    Made several improvements to the dribbling model in order to smooth out ball movement.
    Adjusted physics calculations on in-air collisions to make defenders ‘stronger’.
    Tuned shot blocking logic such that defenders are more aware of attempting blocks when the ball is still rising, and less likely to target the ball on its way down (when goaltending will be called).
    Tuned down the likelihood that poorly rated blockers will get their blocking hand in perfect position in front of the ball.
    Players who successfully block a shot are now more aware and will have a greater chance of recovering the loose ball if it falls nears them.
    Fixed an issue where players who shouldn’t be physically able to body-up in ride collisions were able to do so at a higher than expected frequency.
    Tuned the body-up system in order to reduce the amount of clipping present in this sequence.
    Made several improvements to fix overextension of player elbows during steal/rebound opportunities in order to reduce arm pops, and to improve hand/ball interaction.
    Addressed a very rare case where a defender would snap up from the ground right after getting knocked down.
    Pump Fakes have been tuned to correct an issue where some players would twitch when performing the fake.
    Addressed a rare issue where the game would potentially hang after a player fouled out during a Team-Up game.
    A new and improved ‘Beluba’ camera is now available for your use.
    Corrected a commentary issue where the commentators would discuss (and often praise) a player for a given statistic when the sample size of the stat does not merit the discussion.
    A number of other smaller changes have been made to address issues as well as enhance the user experience.
    MyCAREER
    Fixed a hang that was known to occur when loading save files where a purchased accessory had been equipped.
    Fixed an issue where users would get stuck in the Shooting Drill when they had previous changed their Shooting Type to Real Player %.
    The in-performance VC earnings overlay will now match what is actually given to the user upon returning to the travel scene between games.
    Addressed an issue where player names were occasionally not showing up correctly when dynamic goals were handed out.
    Corrected an issue where the title would not resume following a timeout called shortly after halftime.
    Fixed a hang that could occur when the game would try to simulate ahead in scrimmages.
    Fixed an issue where games would be unintentionally simulated when viewing the NBA.com headline about clinching a playoff spot.
    Corrected a rare issue where the user would be unable to progress past the All-Star break after playing many seasons.
    Corrected a rare issue where users would not get the VC reward for accomplishing a milestone.
    Users will no longer get drafted 30th overall after turning in an impressive performance in the Rookie Showcase.
    Additional ‘fake’ rookies (some quite good) will no longer be generated after the NBA Draft at the outset of the mode.
    Identified a rare case where the game could hang in the dunk contest at all-star weekend if the user left the controller unattended for a period of time (this fix applies for MyGM all-star dunk contest as well).
    Addressed discrepancies between dynamic goals and follow-up press conferences, headlines, and social media messages.
    Fixed an issue where the reporter would reference a stat incorrectly when asking the user a press conference question after a played game.
    Tuned AI behaviors such that teammates that are unhappy with your MyPLAYER will now show it more often after the whistle.
    Corrected a very rare issue where a user’s attributes would be lowered to 25 in all categories.
    Players will now retire completely in later seasons at an appropriate age (rather than sitting in free agency).
    A number of smaller issues (e.g. social media message cleanup) in addition to further mode tuning have been performed in this patch to enhance user satisfaction.
    MyGM
    Corrected an issue where some users would hang when attempting to start the mode with an edited roster.
    Addressed a bug where players would ask for contracts in the MLE pricing range when they clearly deserve contracts of much greater worth.
    Corrected an issue where certain injuries were not properly healing in the expected amount of time.
    Addressed a display error on the Team Finances pricing graphs where it would display the user’s team as earning $0 in specific situations.
    Fixed a number of issues pertaining to the hiring and firing of head coaches and assistant coaches. This should now be more reliable.
    Corrected and optimized a number of owner goals to ensure they always fire at appropriate times (e.g. staff hiring goals will now always respect the available budget) and that they don’t conflict one another.
    Staff goals will now fire in the offseason even when the user has opted to simulate past the Staff Signing period.
    There will now always be a minimum level staff member available to sign when the user’s team does not have the budgetary funds available for a higher level staff member.
    Addressed an issue where players that retired to become coaches would get their name randomized.
    Corrected a rare hang that would occur when the user’s team suffered an in-game injury where the user later performed an in-game save to resume the game at a later time.
    When asking the CPU to rebuild lineups, the player roles set by the user will now be respected in most situations.
    Tuned player morale/player roles logic to be slightly more forgiving.
    Tuned the height ranges for generational players to be more in-line with our original intentions.
    A number of other smaller corrections and tunings have taken place to enhance user satisfaction.
  • troy184
    Rookie
    • Jul 2010
    • 452

    #2
    Re: Has anyone ever seen a Madden patch this in depth?

    If 2K can do this....why can't Madden fix small things like wind direction meter or sim stats leaders not being listed amongst NFL leaders?

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    • bkrich83
      Has Been
      • Jul 2002
      • 71582

      #3
      Re: Has anyone ever seen a Madden patch this in depth?

      Or if you have a patch list that long and it's patch 3, it means you had a lot of stuff broken to begin with. Not sure this is something to laud 2k for, nor is it relevant to anything.
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      • quehouston
        Cheeseproof.com
        • Nov 2008
        • 723

        #4
        Re: Has anyone ever seen a Madden patch this in depth?

        Don't be fooled, a lot of those issues they claimed they "fixed" either weren't fixed, or caused new issues.

        They fact that they had to patch so much is alarming.
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        • troy184
          Rookie
          • Jul 2010
          • 452

          #5
          Re: Has anyone ever seen a Madden patch this in depth?

          Originally posted by bkrich83
          Or if you have a patch list that long and it's patch 3, it means you had a lot of stuff broken to begin with. Not sure this is something to laud 2k for, nor is it relevant to anything.

          How is it not relevant to anything?

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          • bkrich83
            Has Been
            • Jul 2002
            • 71582

            #6
            Re: Has anyone ever seen a Madden patch this in depth?

            Originally posted by quehouston
            Don't be fooled, a lot of those issues they claimed they "fixed" either weren't fixed, or caused new issues.

            They fact that they had to patch so much is alarming.
            Not to mention a lot of them were "Hangs" and crashes which made the game unplayable in some modes. This particular update was not something to brag about, especially given it was Patch 3, and that a large majority of the things people asked for were still not included. (Post game highlights, I am looking at you. )
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            • bkrich83
              Has Been
              • Jul 2002
              • 71582

              #7
              Re: Has anyone ever seen a Madden patch this in depth?

              Originally posted by troy184
              How is it not relevant to anything?
              You're comparing Apples to oranges, on top of the fact you basically did nothing but to prove the opposite of what you attempted to.
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              • troy184
                Rookie
                • Jul 2010
                • 452

                #8
                Re: Has anyone ever seen a Madden patch this in depth?

                Originally posted by bkrich83
                You're comparing Apples to oranges, on top of the fact you basically did nothing but to prove the opposite of what you attempted to.
                Basically, what I proved is that gaming companies have the ability to make a lot of fixes by patching a game. Why can't EA patch simple things like the wind meter or stats? I will answer for you....because they don't care, which is evident by the way that the same things are broken year after year and from last gen to this gen.

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                • jmurphy31
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 2803

                  #9
                  Re: Has anyone ever seen a Madden patch this in depth?

                  Patches are what's good and bad with video games. While its great that developers can fix things via a patch, its also bad they can ship a game with that many issues.

                  Its almost like companies don't use as many testers as before and just wait until people complain on forums to see what's wrong with a game. Some stuff that is wrong it litteraly takes 2-3 times to notice.

                  As for the original post. It is nice to see a company address all of those issues (though who actually knows if it 100% corrected those issues or didn't cause new ones). At the same time, as another poster stated, why does a game have this many issues.

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                  • bkrich83
                    Has Been
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 71582

                    #10
                    Re: Has anyone ever seen a Madden patch this in depth?

                    Originally posted by troy184
                    Basically, what I proved is that gaming companies have the ability to make a lot of fixes by patching a game. Why can't EA patch simple things like the wind meter or stats? I will answer for you....because they don't care, which is evident by the way that the same things are broken year after year and from last gen to this gen.
                    If that's what you think you've proven, more power to you. Keep grinding that axe.

                    Bottom line this isn't something 2k should be congratulated about, or made an example of.
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                    • SmashMan
                      All Star
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 9733

                      #11
                      Re: Has anyone ever seen a Madden patch this in depth?

                      Originally posted by troy184
                      Basically, what I proved is that gaming companies have the ability to make a lot of fixes by patching a game. Why can't EA patch simple things like the wind meter or stats? I will answer for you....because they don't care, which is evident by the way that the same things are broken year after year and from last gen to this gen.
                      You realize this topic can be taken two ways, right? Just depends how you read it.

                      1 - EA doesn't fix/claim to fix as much as other companies.

                      2 - Man, look how much was wrong with NBA 2K.

                      I'm not sure if you're applauding 2K for listing this many issues (impressions on how many are fixed varies), or shaming Madden for not doing the same?

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                      • spacedog
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 102

                        #12
                        Re: Has anyone ever seen a Madden patch this in depth?

                        lol the lengths people will go to trash talk this game sometimes... Acting like long patch notes are a good thing, when they're more about making the game playable than adding content or anything. If Madden did have patch notes that in depth, it seems like you'd be one of the first people making jokes about how much they got wrong to necessitate such long patch notes. If you really dislike the game that much that you applaud another company making a sports game for a different sport with so many things broken that it takes pages of patch notes to cover just to make Madden somehow look worse, I don't know what to say. You're not proving your point, you're just showing how biased you are against Madden, which isn't going to help much in terms of helping to improve the franchise.

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                        • Bcole
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                          • Jun 2013
                          • 59

                          #13
                          Re: Has anyone ever seen a Madden patch this in depth?

                          Looks like 2k took a page out EA's book

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                          • SECElit3
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 5553

                            #14
                            Re: Has anyone ever seen a Madden patch this in depth?

                            Yeah, but at least 2K is placing some effort towards resolving the issues in their game. I applaud 2K

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                            • Kaiser Wilhelm
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 2790

                              #15
                              Re: Has anyone ever seen a Madden patch this in depth?

                              Long patch notes themselves are not a huge problem. It depends on what exactly is being patched. If it is stability issues, then you shipped a bad game. If you are patching to modify values or AI behaviors that isn't a huge issue because AI is and most likely never will be perfect. Again this is a matter of scale. Is the AI subbing too little or too much versus whether the AI is never subbing in.

                              TL;DR- The size of the patch notes are not an issue, the content is.
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