Top Five Stories of 2013: NCAA Football's Demise

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  • SpartyParty11
    MVP
    • Feb 2013
    • 1021

    #16
    Re: Top Five Stories of 2013: NCAA Football's Demise

    Originally posted by mattynokes
    While at Ohio U I knew many players that were thrilled to be on the game. Heck, even an argument over if a player who was a friend of mine was in the game or if it was someone else.

    It's sad that a few money hungry, what do you owe me kind of people ruin it for everyone. We can talk about how much money the NCAA makes off of these players, but how about the free marketing that comes with it for the players?

    Tim Tebow was a first round pick because of the NCAA and the media. Without it, everyone realizes what we've come to know now, he's not a NFL QB. And sure, some are saying, "I knew he wasn't," but enough people believed to give him a nice paycheck for a few years.

    And how about Craig Krenzel? Because of the attention he received, he now has a job whenever he wants it in the greater Columbus area. Many other QBs have come and gone before and after Krenzel, but none have been received quite like him in the local advertising world. I'm sure the way he was talked about and seemingly always mentioned his molecular genetics major story had nothing to do with it...
    Funny that most, if not all, of the players part of the lawsuit were former college players that couldn't make a living in the NFL. Well, since they don't know what it's like to get real jobs because their college career was 99.9% of their life, they're trying to get easy money
    Favorite Teams:

    Michigan State Spartans
    Oregon Ducks
    Miami Hurricanes
    Wake Forest Demon Deacons
    Central Michigan Chippewas (College I'm Attending)

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    • josephid
      Rookie
      • Aug 2010
      • 36

      #17
      Can EA just spend some time in giving us the chance to create what ever we want. The players, teams, stadiums and so on. Just give us the base game play and we build.

      Call it football GM or ? As for online problems with head to head play and licenses, who cares, I don't play on line. The money they put into a better create platform, they could use for other games.

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      • xcgjyfxtrhqing
        Rookie
        • Dec 2013
        • 14

        #18
        Re: Top Five Stories of 2013: NCAA Football's Demise

        It would have been nice to get a new gen version before they shut it down.

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        • xcgjyfxtrhqing
          Rookie
          • Dec 2013
          • 14

          #19
          Re: Top Five Stories of 2013: NCAA Football's Demise

          It would have been nice to get a new gen version before they shut it down.

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          • Goodydog
            Banned
            • May 2011
            • 38

            #20
            Originally posted by Mick-S
            with any luck O’Bannon`s money will bring him nothing but misery.
            No. The bottom line is that no person/company/industry ...EA/NCAA...should be able to make money off of people, individually/collectively (player or team) without compensating those people involved. Yes, it sucks for you because your game is cancelled for now, but you must attempt to avoid being "self-centered."

            Also, just because a person is too young/ignorant/immature to realize that he/she is being exploited, and/or even agrees to exploitation, that doesn't make it right or acceptable. The end still doesn't justify the means.

            Also, it is ironic that some wish to condemn O'Bannon and call him "greedy" while those same accusers are defending EA and the NCAA?!?!?!?!? The word "misinformed" doesn't even begin to describe the absurdity of the situation...bizarre.

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            • supermanemblem
              Rookie
              • Jan 2010
              • 53

              #21
              @goodydog. Have you ever heard of unpaid internships? I had one in college and I wasn't running around making coffee or copies. I was producing real work and got paid nothing. People like you miss the entire point of being a college athlete. They are "paid" by way of an opportunity for a free education, housing, food, healthcare and travel. Do you know how a business works? Employees and contractors do not receive compensation equal to what they produced. If they did then the owners, who put up their own money to fund the business get the banana in the tailpipe. Kobe got $30 mil from the Lakers this year. How much money do you think they make off of him? I'll give you a hint. It way more than $30 mil. If college athletes are put off by the amount of money they are generating, they can always get a job and find the hard way that they will never make what the big boss makes.

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              • Goodydog
                Banned
                • May 2011
                • 38

                #22
                Originally posted by supermanemblem
                @goodydog. Have you ever heard of unpaid internships? I had one in college and I wasn't running around making coffee or copies. I was producing real work and got paid nothing. People like you miss the entire point of being a college athlete. They are "paid" by way of an opportunity for a free education, housing, food, healthcare and travel. Do you know how a business works? Employees and contractors do not receive compensation equal to what they produced. If they did then the owners, who put up their own money to fund the business get the banana in the tailpipe. Kobe got $30 mil from the Lakers this year. How much money do you think they make off of him? I'll give you a hint. It way more than $30 mil. If college athletes are put off by the amount of money they are generating, they can always get a job and find the hard way that they will never make what the big boss makes.
                @Super...
                I was honestly addressing O'Bannon's case specifically, however, I will offer my opinion on "college athletics" in general. First, there is a difference (imo) between a college athlete (a true student who is achieving an education/degree) and an athlete who is working for a college under the guise of being a college student. If an institution bends/stretches/shreds this concept (for victories = money), well, what should anyone expect from the kids/students?

                I would not equate the revenue generated from your internship to the dollars generated by the interns of the NCAA/NFL internship program. I'm sure that you were a brilliant intern, but I'm sure your tenure at the firm where you worked (and the millions like you) pale in comparison. Also, it is unlikely that you were saddled with the same draconian work restrictions as current college athletes are; what I'm saying is that NCAA interns don't have the same freedom or flexibility to go and work elsewhere without serious penalty. My point is that college athletics have a different set of circumstances with different consequences, so much so that the NCAA is on the verge of altering its policy/definition of appropriate compensation for "college athletes."

                You stated that people "like me" miss the point, and to some degree I probably have; but if I've missed the point, it is because the NCAA along with colleges and universities that are in pursuit of big dollars keep moving it.

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                • dso122783
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 213

                  #23
                  Re: Top Five Stories of 2013: NCAA Football's Demise

                  First, I love NCAA football. I play it every year, all year. I think whats going on here reminds of an episode of south park. I can't say the word but it was written just after the Michael Richards standup incident. Token told Stan that he "just doesn't understand" why the word is offensive. At the end Stan tells Token "I finally got it. I don't get it". Token says that now Stan understands. Make sense?
                  I really don't see the big fus with these college athletes and the sense of entitlement. To me its a privilege. You cant complain about a thing that you chose to do. That's like me saying "Man, I hate not getting paid enough at work" Everyone says that. Very few people think they are overpaid. But very few people quit because of pay, they just complain. And almost nobody hires a lawyer over it. That's because there is a simple answer for them. Quit and do something else. But they don't quit. I don't think Im underpaid, but if I did feel that I was, I would look for something else. In the meantime I would be glad I have a job to complain about. I think college football players should be glad that they are so talented and have so many opportunities that so many others don't. Imagine nobody in your family ever going to college. You come from a poverty stricken home. You have no networks or connections in the real world.You go to sleep almost every night to the sounds of sirens and gunshots. However you find out you are a beast on the gridiron. Now, I would use that to my advantage and be thankful I have that skill that could get me an education. A life. Its called opportunity. And I would not feel slighted for not getting paid because my number is in NCAA. But that's just me.
                  Back to my South Park reference. Maybe we, as gamers, just don't understand. We say we do. Heck, I just made a rant about it. But maybe we just don't get it.

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                  • ftball11
                    Pro
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 553

                    #24
                    Re: Top Five Stories of 2013: NCAA Football's Demise

                    The problem is not just the former athletes and their $40 million settlement, the problem is gamers as well. Don’t forget, EA settled a class-action suit with gamers for $27 million. EA is going to payout $67 million and to add icing on the cake, now the NCAA is suing them. Due to the liability, I guarantee you no company will ever produce a college sports game and the NCAA will never license to a video-game maker again.

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