Excellent Shot Release... Uh Oh..

[aga11ah]

first off.. let's go over the definition of excellent since 2ksports apparently has no idea what it means.

ex·cel·lent
ˈeksələnt/Submit
adjective
1.
extremely good; outstanding.

ok now that we've got that out the way...

I understand just because it's an excellent release that doesn't mean it should go in 100% of the time. I get that. so before the 2k defenders start crying.. I know that already.

now.. I've put in a bunch of hours in this game and I can tell you.. whenever I notice I got off an excellent release the first thing I say is ah damn. why? because they only go in about 50% of the time. it makes no sense at all. even if the shot quality is a B+ or better. if shot quality is a B+ or A then they should go in at least 75%... this is the NBA, not scrubs at the YMCA right?

it's hilarious how you can have a F shot quality and be early or late and have just a good of chance to go in as excellent release. it's so ridiculous.

I actually had 2 excellent releases yesterday with good shooters like Glen Rice Jr clank off the backboard. just brutal misses. it makes no sense.

[KyotoCarl]

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You could have an excellent shot release, but you are falling out of bounds.
This grade just takes in consideration the release from you hands, not if you are shooting behind the backboard or if you four defenders in your face or if you laying on the floor.

That's why the shot selection is much better to go by, not the release.

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[SPRINGS03]

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first off.. let's go over the definition of excellent since 2ksports apparently has no idea what it means.



ok now that we've got that out the way...

I understand just because it's an excellent release that doesn't mean it should go in 100% of the time. I get that. so before the 2k defenders start crying.. I know that already.

now.. I've put in a bunch of hours in this game and I can tell you.. whenever I notice I got off an excellent release the first thing I say is ah damn. why? because they only go in about 50% of the time. it makes no sense at all. even if the shot quality is a B+ or better. if shot quality is a B+ or A then they should go in at least 75%... this is the NBA, not scrubs at the YMCA right?

it's hilarious how you can have a F shot quality and be early or late and have just a good of chance to go in as excellent release. it's so ridiculous.

I actually had 2 excellent releases yesterday with good shooters like Glen Rice Jr clank off the backboard. just brutal misses. it makes no sense.

Eh, this is one of the few "issues" that people have that i don't think is a big deal. You honestly think that if a shot quality is a B+ or A they should go in 75% of the time? Who in the NBA shoots 75%? I honestly get a little annoyed because in all of my games the shooting% is too high for both teams even with shooting sliders lowered. Also, having a great release doesn't mean as much if you're defended well. Just because you have a perfect released doesn't mean it should go in constantly if you're contested.

You do realize that 50% shooting is good in NBA basketball right? Hell even 3 point shooters that are really good usually only hit 3's at about a 40% clip.

[Rell7thirty]

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Eh, this is one of the few "issues" that people have that i don't think is a big deal. You honestly think that if a shot quality is a B+ or A they should go in 75% of the time? Who in the NBA shoots 75%? I honestly get a little annoyed because in all of my games the shooting% is too high for both teams even with shooting sliders lowered. Also, having a great release doesn't mean as much if you're defended well. Just because you have a perfect released doesn't mean it should go in constantly if you're contested.

You do realize that 50% shooting is good in NBA basketball right? Hell even 3 point shooters that are really good usually only hit 3's at about a 40% clip.

While I agree with you about percentages, and about shots not going in when you're contested. I disagree with game about the excellent releases missing on wide open shots, all the time. I used to get angry, but now is just laugh it off. It happens too often.

Because of the dead eye or space creating sig (I forget which) you get a higher % of the shot falling when a defender is arriving late. Because of that little boost, my shots go in at a higher percentage while the defense is on me than having a wide open shot. I'm saying wide open on the wing, excellent release and a+ quality.. Either winds up shooting short, or bouncing super high and going out of bounds.. My 3s are at 94 and I play on HOF.

Sometimes I'll go 1-9 from 3, others I'll be 7-9.
I mean, my percentages are still realistic, because I make up for it when I score at a higher percentage. So it balances out. I'm hovering 43% 3s, 54% FG, and 81% FT.

The one I don't get is the FT.. I can't make more than 3 consecutive shots. I'm rated 90, and he goes wide right on A- slightly early releases.. And makes B+ releases lol.. Granted, irl, there are shots I thought were going to miss because my release felt off, but the shot winds up going in and everyone's looking at me whilst shaking their heads. I just do the Jordan shoulder shrug "idk"

[turty11]

Re: Excellent Shot Release... Uh Oh..

You could have an excellent shot release, but you are falling out of bounds.
This grade just takes in consideration the release from you hands, not if you are shooting behind the backboard or if you four defenders in your face or if you laying on the floor.

That's why the shot selection is much better to go by, not the release.

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but but... you can be WIDE open and it gives you a c- because somehow the guy 15 feet from you is "contesting" your shot

[KyotoCarl]

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but but... you can be WIDE open and it gives you a c- because somehow the guy 15 feet from you is "contesting" your shot

Then that's where the problem lies, if it really is a problem; not in the shot release.

[turty11]

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also what bout them hard coded shooting %'s.. 84 3pt rating A+ quality/release brick city, marc gasol _.. 2/2 from 3pt! cpu needs to have release timing like in 2k11??

[Crookid]

Re: Excellent Shot Release... Uh Oh..

Why do these dudes create threads if you're just a
"2k defender" if you disagree?

[thedream2k13]

Re: Excellent Shot Release... Uh Oh..

first off.. let's go over the definition of excellent since 2ksports apparently has no idea what it means.



ok now that we've got that out the way...

I understand just because it's an excellent release that doesn't mean it should go in 100% of the time. I get that. so before the 2k defenders start crying.. I know that already.

now.. I've put in a bunch of hours in this game and I can tell you.. whenever I notice I got off an excellent release the first thing I say is ah damn. why? because they only go in about 50% of the time. it makes no sense at all. even if the shot quality is a B+ or better. if shot quality is a B+ or A then they should go in at least 75%... this is the NBA, not scrubs at the YMCA right?

it's hilarious how you can have a F shot quality and be early or late and have just a good of chance to go in as excellent release. it's so ridiculous.

I actually had 2 excellent releases yesterday with good shooters like Glen Rice Jr clank off the backboard. just brutal misses. it makes no sense.

Shot ratings And CONSISTENCY the two most important mechanics for jump shots

[thedream2k13]

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but but... you can be WIDE open and it gives you a c- because somehow the guy 15 feet from you is "contesting" your shot

Or you standing on a cold spot AH HAH

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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Maybe the game just want that player to be cold that game

[aga11ah]

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Eh, this is one of the few "issues" that people have that i don't think is a big deal. You honestly think that if a shot quality is a B+ or A they should go in 75% of the time? Who in the NBA shoots 75%?

well we are talking about perfect release + great quality shots. so if you put that together I'm sure guys in the NBA would shoot 75% if ALL of their shots were that way.. hell Bron shoots 60% as it is.

[birthday_massacre]

Re: Excellent Shot Release... Uh Oh..

Eh, this is one of the few "issues" that people have that i don't think is a big deal. You honestly think that if a shot quality is a B+ or A they should go in 75% of the time? Who in the NBA shoots 75%? I honestly get a little annoyed because in all of my games the shooting% is too high for both teams even with shooting sliders lowered. Also, having a great release doesn't mean as much if you're defended well. Just because you have a perfect released doesn't mean it should go in constantly if you're contested.

You do realize that 50% shooting is good in NBA basketball right? Hell even 3 point shooters that are really good usually only hit 3's at about a 40% clip.

If you get an A+ and perfect release it should go in every single time. It does for NBA players when they take the perfect shot, they never miss when all the mechanics are perfect. If they miss its because something was off.

What they should do is make it harder to get the perfect rating, so when you do get it it will always go in. Set it up so most of your shots will always end up in the C to B- range which will go in 40% of the time then let the B to A- go in 50% of the time.

But if you hit the perfect shot selection and release it shouldn't miss. That would be like in a baseball video game, you lining up the bat on the ball perfectly and timing your swing perfectly and still swing and miss.

Its not like you are wide open, and get a perfect shot rating and perfect release every time the court, It will probably happen 5 or 6 times a game. So even if you hit all those shots its not its happening every time.

And its also not like you are getting a perfect shot release every shot in this game.

[birthday_massacre]

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well we are talking about perfect release + great quality shots. so if you put that together I'm sure guys in the NBA would shoot 75% if ALL of their shots were that way.. hell Bron shoots 60% as it is.

You have seen games where players are in the zone and hit pretty much every shot. Its because they are using the perfect shot release and perfect shot selections.

[Crookid]

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If you get an A+ and perfect release it should go in every single time. It does for NBA players when they take the perfect shot, they never miss when all the mechanics are perfect. If they miss its because something was off.

What they should do is make it harder to get the perfect rating, so when you do get it it will always go in. Set it up so most of your shots will always end up in the C to B- range which will go in 40% of the time then let the B to A- go in 50% of the time.

But if you hit the perfect shot selection and release it shouldn't miss. That would be like in a baseball video game, you lining up the bat on the ball perfectly and timing your swing perfectly and still swing and miss.

Its not like you are wide open, and get a perfect shot rating and perfect release every time the court, It will probably happen 5 or 6 times a game. So even if you hit all those shots its not its happening every time.

And its also not like you are getting a perfect shot release every shot in this game.

Again with this argument. NBA players do miss wide open shots. A+ means very high probability. Not 100%. People need to stop confusing perfect form with perfect shot. If the game said "PERFECT SHOT A+" then it would be dumb if it missed.

But the game is saying "EXCELLENT RELEASE A+ QUALITY" which means the RELEASE WAS PERFECT. Not the shot. NBA players can have perfect form and release but if they give it too much strength or a bad angle, it won't go in. You've never seen an NBA player back peddle from a shot like he was sure it was going in just to have it rim out?

What is so hard to understand. My FGAPG is .640 on HOF. How much frigin higher do you want it? You people are why 12 minute quarters are 150 point games like a damn arcade.