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EA Sports and the NFL "Still Have a Number of Years" on License
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Unfortunately there will not be enough sales to support it.
I wish I could hit the lotto, pay for the 2K engine and pay some people (maybe SCEA!!) to make the game. I wouldn't care if I made money or not :-)
Call me a fanboy or whatever but Madden is just a boring game with no life to it.Comment
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I've read this same quote countless times since 2005. The question I pose to those who say it is: when will EA finally reach the destination they've been directing towards for 10 years?Comment
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It's either pro or nothing.Comment
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The individual player licensing that 2K did with APF killed their profits. At 400K units, it wasn't big by any stretch, but it would've been more than enough to cover general production expenses otherwise. APF was a very low-budget production.
I know it's a popular opinion that a non-NFL licensed game can't sell, but I disagree strongly because:
- Blitz The League 1 sold 1.6 Million copies and was an even lower budget production than All-Pro Football was. Midway made a killing on that game. Companies like 2K need to examine why Blitz worked. In my opinion, it worked because the fictional league and its teams and players were all given a strong professional identity that drew you in and made you believe it. The story pulled you in even deeper, and the tough hard-nosed no-holds barred approach was appreciated by fans because no other football game was ever that honest and in your face. The marketing was also excellent. It was basically GTA with football, except you couldn't have physical control of your off-field character.
On the field, it was like what you would've pictured an XFL video game to be if the XFL had lasted. Cool on-field camera angles post and pre-play, dirty hits, and tons of trash-talking. A sim version of this game with better graphics and an open-world off the field story would be a monster.
- Games like All-Pro Football and BackBreaker didn't fail sales-wise simply because they lacked an NFL license. Big reason yes, but not the only reason. They failed also largely because they were designed wrong.
APF had WAY too many customization restrictions, and no worthwhile modes and activities to keep your attention. There were no stories, the team names were terrible, the uniforms were abominable, the league had no identity, and did I mention all the restrictions? And then the marketing was a legendary disaster. APF never stood a chance.
BackBreaker was just a big tech demo. Just about everything was wrong with that game except for the great team editor and some cool RTP collisions.
I strongly believe that there is a 1 to 2 Million unit potential for a non-NFL football game that does this the right way. I believe that if they add in a fleshed out Story Mode as well, that number could multiply.Last edited by FaceMask; 01-29-2014, 10:46 AM.Comment
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I love how everyone is hating on EA for this... you should be mad at the NFL. EA was smart enough to pony up the cash. 2k wasn't thats on them. EA made a great business and people here on OS give them crud for it? why? because they don't know how business works. If there is anyone to blame it is the NFL and how they conduct exclusive licenses.
And BTW if you think 2k5 or APF are better than Madden 25 (especially next gen), then you're just crazy biased.
And BTW if Madden 25 wasn't better than a 2004 ps 2 game or a 2008 generic low budget game it would say more about Madden than those games. Even so, I still enjoy APF and using players I grew up watching. It's all about a preference for variety and choice.Comment
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I really have no words.... EA is ruining sports gaming. NFL deserves some of the blame in regards to how they conduct business in terms of "exclusivity". EA business wise came up a winner in creating this monopoloy on the Football Sim gaming world. EA disappoints each year with Madden and every year for the past 10 years we keep seeing comments like "Madden is now moving in the right direction" .... at what point are they actually going to end up at desired destination? EA couldn't careless about its consumers and developing a game we deserve. I personally would pay $100 for a NFL2k next-gen Football game instead of a $60 crap game EA puts out each year (not worth $60 btw).
IDK thats just my opinion....Comment
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Interesting, two different posters using the same two words, final destination. Maybe I'm watching too much of The Following or have seen too many Final Destination movies.
We'll need to wait and see if another NFL game will be produced.Comment
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Madden will still be making NFL games, but will they be the only one making a football game is the question. I didn't see the word exclusive used. Now it isn't to say I'm gonna my hopes up, but it's interesting they left out the word exclusive. Take-two very well could announce a football game after the super bowl. Now will they be able to announce an NFL game is the other question. Let's face it the exclusive license has never been a good thing for anybody.
Let's take a look at all the choices we had 10 years ago -
Madden 2005
ESPN NFL 2K5
NFL Gameday 2005
NFL Street 2
Blitz: The League
NCAA Football 2005
Now let's take a look at what is confirmed so far in 2014 -
Madden 15
This is very sad for games no matter who you are a fan of.Comment
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Wouldn't be surprised if the production and licensing of all of those games 10 years ago combined is less than what it takes to do Madden right now.
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That wasn't the point of my post. Point is football gaming sucks now compared to 10 years ago.Comment
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Based on? You are trying to correlate more choices to football gaming in general. These two things can't be compared. Having more than one choice doesn't necessarily mean better. Sometimes only having one choice makes it easier on the consumer who may be afraid that they might choose a football game they may not like. I know I enjoy only having one choice...mostly because when I have multiple choices I always end up picking the wrong one.Comment
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