EA Sports and the NFL "Still Have a Number of Years" on License

[kjcheezhead]

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Based on? You are trying to correlate more choices to football gaming in general. These two things can't be compared. Having more than one choice doesn't necessarily mean better. Sometimes only having one choice makes it easier on the consumer who may be afraid that they might choose a football game they may not like. I know I enjoy only having one choice...mostly because when I have multiple choices I always end up picking the wrong one.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=48-tcRiBNj4

[roadman]

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I know in my mind more competition is better, but I take a look at the sports video landscape today, and ask, is more better?

Why?

How many multiple sports games are out there currently?

There is 1 baseball game, and one in the works no one knows about. There is one hockey game and barely 2 basketball games.

Is there enough interest out there to support multiple sports games?

Seems like one sports game obliterates the competition and the other games don't have a leg to stand on and are no longer in business.

[TheRealHST]

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I love how everyone is hating on EA for this... you should be mad at the NFL. EA was smart enough to pony up the cash. 2k wasn't thats on them. EA made a great business and people here on OS give them crud for it? why? because they don't know how business works. If there is anyone to blame it is the NFL and how they conduct exclusive licenses.

And BTW if you think 2k5 or APF are better than Madden 25 (especially next gen), then you're just crazy biased.

I liked the firt paragraph but not the second. Until I can put the ball where I want (actual total control passing) in Madden, then no I can't agree

[TheRealHST]

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Why doesn't 2k Sports make a comeback into college sports and just make a phenomenal College Football game for next gen? Don't they see that gamers are fiending for a new 2k Sports Football game?

This would be even harder to do.

[TheRealHST]

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We have to speak out fellas .... send the Development Team a letter or something.

Or a kickstarter campaign?

[TheBuddyHobbs]

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I cannot believe people are actually questioning are more choices better. I just... Really?...

[King_B_Mack]

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I know in my mind more competition is better, but I take a look at the sports video landscape today, and ask, is more better?

Why?

How many multiple sports games are out there currently?

There is 1 baseball game, and one in the works no one knows about. There is one hockey game and barely 2 basketball games.

Is there enough interest out there to support multiple sports games?

Seems like one sports game obliterates the competition and the other games don't have a leg to stand on and are no longer in business.

Yes, there is interest out there to support multiple sports games. What there isn't interest in is supporting some of the half efforts we've gotten from sports franchises in the previous generations when it was cheaper to develop the games. For example college basketball. There is no way anyone can convince me that there isn't enough interest in college basketball to have a single game on shelves in four years. These companies haven't done nearly enough to try to grow the markets for any of these games besides for FIFA and Madden. 2K did nothing to grow the market for college basketball. How many times do you see ads for NBA 2K? When do you ever recall seeing College Hoops 2K commercials or print ads? Putting out a game, advertising for about maybe the first two weeks of the game's release and then doing no other promotion after that is some of the worst developer support you'll see.

[roadman]

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I cannot believe people are actually questioning are more choices better. I just... Really?...

You must have glanced over what I wrote, I said, I know that competition is better. I just... Really?

I'm looking at what's out there right now, not 10 years ago.

There isn't much competition in the other video sports gaming genre's.

[kjcheezhead]

Re: EA Sports and the NFL "Still Have a Number of Years" on License

I know in my mind more competition is better, but I take a look at the sports video landscape today, and ask, is more better?

Why?

How many multiple sports games are out there currently?

There is 1 baseball game, and one in the works no one knows about. There is one hockey game and barely 2 basketball games.

Is there enough interest out there to support multiple sports games?

Seems like one sports game obliterates the competition and the other games don't have a leg to stand on and are no longer in business.

All the more reason to hate this agreement. The sports gaming library is drying up more each year and the most popular sports league in America only promotes this situation. The market is there and companies have tried but fans want nfl teams and players.

Tecmo Throwback, All Pro Football and Backbreaker all failed at least partly because they weren't NFL games.

[roadman]

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All the more reason to hate this agreement. The sports gaming library is drying up more each year and the most popular sports league in America only promotes this situation. The market is there and companies have tried but fans want nfl teams and players.

Tecmo Throwback, All Pro Football and Backbreaker all failed at least partly because they weren't NFL games.

KJ, it's just not all about the agreement, though, either. Look at hockey, no exclusive. Sure, there was an exclusive for baseball, but a partial agreement and 2k has bowed out.

There used to be two golf games, now there is only one. No exclusives there.

Guess what I'm asking is, will the market support more than 2 sports games in one market.

Looking at things today, I don't think so. And I'm talking about 3 or 4 sports games the way is was with baseball and football from a decade ago or more.

[FaceMask]

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The difference with Baseball, Basketball, and Hockey, is that competition was defeated or taken out altogether by superior products, the way it should be. In football, competition was defeated by licensing.

[roadman]

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So, basically, exclusive or no exclusive, this current market isn't able to support 3 or more games like a decade or more ago.

And baseball did have a partial exclusive.

[FaceMask]

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It may have to do with what companies are in a position to develop moreso than it has to do with the market itself.

In my opinion, I just feel like every company besides Midway overall (although they made a few missteps, too, especially with BTL 2) that put out an non-NFL football game post-exclusive took the wrong approach and essentially gave gamers something different than what they were asking for. I base that on comparing what people were asking 2K and NM to do with their games pre-release, and then looking at what 2K and NM gave us instead, and there are big fundamental differences between the two. I'll even throw Tecmo into that one because it was somewhat the same situation. It was almost like nobody on those dev teams were listening to the fans, and well, they paid the price in sales for that.

Baseball did have that partial exclusive, but I think most would agree that The Show even on a single console ran MLB 2K out of the park.

[roadman]

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Sim just posted this video in the Other section.

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[kjcheezhead]

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KJ, it's just not all about the agreement, though, either. Look at hockey, no exclusive. Sure, there was an exclusive for baseball, but a partial agreement and 2k has bowed out.

There used to be two golf games, now there is only one. No exclusives there.

Guess what I'm asking is, will the market support more than 2 sports games in one market.

Looking at things today, I don't think so. And I'm talking about 3 or 4 sports games the way is was with baseball and football from a decade ago or more.

I believe 3 football games could be profitable right now. Madden and 2k could both sell at least a million copies and probably much more. I think an NFL tecmo psn game could do well too.

This is NFL football, the other major sports combined can't match it's fanbase. But NFL is the keyword.