Tune down the Read Option!

[SalvArmyMatt]

Is there a way to make the computer have a chance of stopping the read option?

I got a guy in my dynasty (love the dude) but he is straight thrashing the computer for ridiculous yardage running the read option. (I'm sure he is abusing it to death)

Would be sweet if I can just tweak the sliders and make it harder to run... forcing him to run something else.

[mjavon]

Re: Tune down the Read Option!

I raised my threshold to 65 to make running to the outside (also returns) more difficult in general. Haven't tested for read option, but it could work.

[big earl]

Re: Tune down the Read Option!

I raised my threshold to 65 to make running to the outside (also returns) more difficult in general. Haven't tested for read option, but it could work.

what threshold?

[mjavon]

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Min speed threshold. And I'm sorry I thought this was a madden post, I have it set to 65 in madden, could work for ncaa too though, who knows

[canesfins]

Re: Tune down the Read Option!

Is there a way to make the computer have a chance of stopping the read option?

I got a guy in my dynasty (love the dude) but he is straight thrashing the computer for ridiculous yardage running the read option. (I'm sure he is abusing it to death)

Would be sweet if I can just tweak the sliders and make it harder to run... forcing him to run something else.

Well you say that you love the dude so why not just talk to him and tell him to not abuse it?

[SalvArmyMatt]

Re: Tune down the Read Option!

Well, I'd like him to be able to run whatever offense he wants. I just want to make it less easy to run. His QB had 9 carries for 290 yards and 6 TDs last game. I just want to slow it down, gonna try this speed thresh

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[rudyjuly2]

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The read option wouldn't be so bad if the lineman stayed home more often. They go for the RB at least 75% of the time and that normally gives a huge running lane to the QB. Sliders don't help either. It would have been nice if they tuned the game so the DE would stay with the QB 75% of the time and not the other way around. I really wish we could somehow get a tuning file that would allow us to fix some of this stuff. Oh well.

[Raw Energy]

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Set it to where the CPU goes after the QB if u can i know u can set it in game idk how it goes for commish in league but I love to get a hat on QB as much as possible.

[rudyjuly2]

Re: Tune down the Read Option!

Set it to where the CPU goes after the QB if u can i know u can set it in game idk how it goes for commish in league but I love to get a hat on QB as much as possible.

I don't like to use that game planning option for me because it completely takes out the cpu QBs rushing game. It's unrealistic that a DE NEVER gets fooled. The game gets too easy for the user with that option. I would love it if the cpu did it to me though and they never turn that option on it seems. And that's the biggest problem imo - the cpu run defense against the QB keep on the read option.

[mcat71090]

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The read option wouldn't be so bad if the lineman stayed home more often. They go for the RB at least 75% of the time and that normally gives a huge running lane to the QB. Sliders don't help either. It would have been nice if they tuned the game so the DE would stay with the QB 75% of the time and not the other way around. I really wish we could somehow get a tuning file that would allow us to fix some of this stuff. Oh well.

yep this is the biggest problem..in real life most teams have taught their DE's to stand their ground and keep the QB from running

only way to limit human read option is house rules

[SteelerSpartan]

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Yeah the running game was way overpowered this year....to give myself a challenge I did

*Quit using the turbo/sprint button(Except for Qb scrambling behind LOS).
On defualt settings this breaks the game IMO

*Tinkered with the RBA as it controls running speed as well...mine set at 40

*Set Speed ThreshHold 0,Game Speed Normal....
You would think a higher threshhold would be better but it also makes your OL get out to the 2nd level insanely fast.....so with it zero LBs and DBs can run to the ball carrier faster then your OL....providing your not constantly on the turbo

*Maybe placebo but used some of those penalty sliders that are supposed to affect block shedding

Definitely a lot of hassle for what should have been a quick fix by just lowering your Run block a little

[jello1717]

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*Tinkered with the RBA as it controls running speed as well...mine set at 40

This is the best way IMO. In my offline I have user RBA set @ 25 and it's done wonders at toning down my ground attack as a run heavy spread option guy. While I can still break the occasional 20+ yarder, a 5 yard gain is a successful option play for me (as it should be). My QB gets stopped for a loss more often than he breaks one for 10+ yards (which I imagine is not anyone's experience with a high RBA slider).

As SteelerSpartan said, RBA affects runners' speed (among other things) and this keeps them from breaking big runs all the time. Most people probably wouldn't like playing on 25 though as they'd just complain all the time when their 95 SPD HB is getting run down by LBs and DEs and their 90 SPD QB is getting chased down by DTs in the backfield. But to me, that's vastly preferable to rushing for 200+ every game with your QB.

Attached are the season rushing totals for all of my guys with 100+ carries in a season (I always spread my carries between 3-4 HBs, 2-3 WRs, and the QB so I never have 200+ car guys) sorted by yards. You can see that you can still have successful rushers (most of my guys average over 5 YPC), but you shouldn't put up ridiculous numbers like I've seen in this thread. My #1 rusher, QB Tyler Irvin was a scramble with 97 SPD/ACC as a SR which is why he averaged 7 YPC.
Averaging 5 YPC is very in line with real stats. From here:

http://www.cfbstats.com/2013/leader/national/player/split01/category01/sort02.html

100 guys averaged over 5.47 YPC last season.

I should also note that I have 2 house rules regarding options, I don't run options with a read inside the 10 or on 3rd down. I run speed/load/shovel type options anytime I want since they're much harder to run.

[SalvArmyMatt]

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I'm loving that spreadsheet, bro. It makes me realize I'm not the only one nerdy enough to use excel to archive all of my stats, scores, and awards each season.

Your's looks pretty sweet,

[jarato]

Re: Tune down the Read Option!

I don't like to use that game planning option for me because it completely takes out the cpu QBs rushing game. It's unrealistic that a DE NEVER gets fooled. The game gets too easy for the user with that option. I would love it if the cpu did it to me though and they never turn that option on it seems. And that's the biggest problem imo - the cpu run defense against the QB keep on the read option.

I can understand the thought process. I wouldn't necessarily see it as the DE never gets fooled using the game plan feature though. The opposite setting where the DE always goes after the RB is in fact a common scheme used vs the read option. A backside LB is assigned to scrape and take the QB after the DE gives a pull read. If the QB is more of running threat than I could see a team scheming the exact opposite. Load up the plays use for the running back and for the QB into a give read. I guess to be a bit more realistic he could attack the QB with this setting as well.

[TimLawNYC]

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yep this is the biggest problem..in real life most teams have taught their DE's to stand their ground and keep the QB from running

only way to limit human read option is house rules

Part of the prtoblem is that the Read Option is the only running play out of shotgun formations that have any chance of gaining positive yardage. Running HB draws, sweeps, etc. from shotgun turns your RB into "molasses-legs" where he's moving in slow-motion and you are lucky to get back to the LOS.

So if you want to run a Spread or Air Raid playbook, you choices for running plays are either stick with non-option plays (and average 1 YPC) or use the Read Option and be able to pick up 8-12 yards on most plays. It's a tough situation, because limiting the Option too much really is unfair to players trying to run authentic Spread or Air Raid offenses, but using the Option makes the game almost too easy.

There is no perfect solution, IMO.