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  • DCEBB2001
    MVP
    • Nov 2008
    • 2569

    #1126
    Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

    Originally posted by garret2
    Dcebb, would you happen to know if there is anything similar to FBG ratings out there for basketball. i've searched and haven't found anything, but you seem to be well connected and may know about something i don't. thanks!!
    FBG stands for FootBall Gaming. There is nothing out there that utilizes FBG ratings for other sports aside from football. I too, however, enjoy basketball so if I was able to get the correct data, I would love to rate basketball players as well. However, for now I need to hash things out on the NFL side of things before making the huge leap to rating college players.

    I am still considering altering some of the formulas to make them better correspond to Madden ratings for franchise. The real problem is that Madden rates their rookies so darn high that it throws the population data off. However, the adjustment would be to go back to more "classic" (2001-2005) FBG Ratings. This scale would "fit" Madden's scale "better" but would be more of a warped impression of what the scouting data shows.

    For instance, in 2005, FBG Ratings had 99 players rated 90+. Madden 25 has 142 players rated 90+. Scouts Inc in 2012 had only 19 players rated 90+ (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story...layer-rankings). This year, FBG ratings has only 7 players rated over 90.

    Now, lots of people disagree with my ratings because there are so few players rated 90+ (elite) but look at what Scouts Inc says for ESPN. They only had 19 players rated that high last year. Even the old FBG ratings had less than 100 players rated that high. Madden 10, that was to have more variance in ratings, still had 138 players rated 90+. Scouts Inc also only had 196 players rated 80+. FBG 2013 has 50 players rated 80+. I think that even if you don't trust my sources and the subsequent ratings, you can look at Scouts Inc to get an idea on how few of the really elite players there are in the NFL according to another premier scouting source.

    So the big question is, do gamers want realistic Madden ratings that best mimic the real NFL, or do they want ratings that best mimic EA?
    Dan B.
    Player Ratings Administrator
    www.fbgratings.com/members
    NFL Scout
    www.nfldraftscout.com/members

    Petition to EA for FBG Ratings:
    https://www.change.org/p/ea-sports-t...bers-index-php

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    • garret2
      Rookie
      • Aug 2010
      • 252

      #1127
      Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

      ok thanks for the reply. i've seen a few good basketball raters out there, like VTCRB. was just wondering if anyone had ever attempted to create a more scientific rating system that would eliminate bias and rate player abilities based off of scouting data, like you do.

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      • GJD23
        MVP
        • Nov 2013
        • 2095

        #1128
        Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

        Does anyone have a roster file that has these completed? It seems like it would take an eternity implementing them, lol.

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        • DCEBB2001
          MVP
          • Nov 2008
          • 2569

          #1129
          Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

          Originally posted by GJD23
          Does anyone have a roster file that has these completed? It seems like it would take an eternity implementing them, lol.
          Try the roster threads.

          I will be getting NEW attributes in HOPEFULLY tonight along with updated roster movement and player info.
          Dan B.
          Player Ratings Administrator
          www.fbgratings.com/members
          NFL Scout
          www.nfldraftscout.com/members

          Petition to EA for FBG Ratings:
          https://www.change.org/p/ea-sports-t...bers-index-php

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          • Streetfbmv
            Rookie
            • May 2009
            • 34

            #1130
            Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

            I noticed, what seemed to be, a pretty big update a couple days ago. Any update on what's been going on over there at FBG? It seems to be that the strength rating was greatly effected with this last update.

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            • DCEBB2001
              MVP
              • Nov 2008
              • 2569

              #1131
              Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

              Originally posted by Streetfbmv
              I noticed, what seemed to be, a pretty big update a couple days ago. Any update on what's been going on over there at FBG? It seems to be that the strength rating was greatly effected with this last update.
              The attributes have been converted to be more in-line with Madden 25 and beyond as to not distort the use of draft classes and CPU mechanics in the game. The same data is still used to effectively rate each player, but now the attributes and ratings reflect more upon how EA rates players.
              Dan B.
              Player Ratings Administrator
              www.fbgratings.com/members
              NFL Scout
              www.nfldraftscout.com/members

              Petition to EA for FBG Ratings:
              https://www.change.org/p/ea-sports-t...bers-index-php

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              • charter04
                Tecmo Super Bowl = GOAT
                • May 2010
                • 5740

                #1132
                Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                Originally posted by DCEBB2001
                The attributes have been converted to be more in-line with Madden 25 and beyond as to not distort the use of draft classes and CPU mechanics in the game. The same data is still used to effectively rate each player, but now the attributes and ratings reflect more upon how EA rates players.

                What can we do about figuring out the ratings for injured players like Romo. I noticed he's 40 overall and has very low accuracy ratings. I'm guess this is injury related. How do I know what his non-injury ratings are?
                www.twitch.tv/charter04

                https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPW...59SqVtXXFQVknw

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                • DCEBB2001
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 2569

                  #1133
                  Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                  Originally posted by charter04
                  What can we do about figuring out the ratings for injured players like Romo. I noticed he's 40 overall and has very low accuracy ratings. I'm guess this is injury related. How do I know what his non-injury ratings are?
                  All of the ratings are real-time, so you will just have to wait until he is healthy.
                  Dan B.
                  Player Ratings Administrator
                  www.fbgratings.com/members
                  NFL Scout
                  www.nfldraftscout.com/members

                  Petition to EA for FBG Ratings:
                  https://www.change.org/p/ea-sports-t...bers-index-php

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                  • charter04
                    Tecmo Super Bowl = GOAT
                    • May 2010
                    • 5740

                    #1134
                    Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                    Originally posted by DCEBB2001
                    All of the ratings are real-time, so you will just have to wait until he is healthy.

                    Oh ok thanks
                    www.twitch.tv/charter04

                    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPW...59SqVtXXFQVknw

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                    • DCEBB2001
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 2569

                      #1135
                      Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                      No problem.
                      Dan B.
                      Player Ratings Administrator
                      www.fbgratings.com/members
                      NFL Scout
                      www.nfldraftscout.com/members

                      Petition to EA for FBG Ratings:
                      https://www.change.org/p/ea-sports-t...bers-index-php

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                      • DCEBB2001
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 2569

                        #1136
                        Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                        All rosters and players are fully updated. Attributes ***SHOULD*** match the OVR values within 1 point. If you find any that don't just PM me and I will take a look at them. The formulas are for M25, so using any other version of Madden will give you different OVR calculations that may not be correct. EA seems to change this every year for some odd reason. I will continue to update a couple times per month until training camps open. Rookies should be added near draft time, but I am looking into getting them added early.
                        Last edited by DCEBB2001; 02-24-2014, 10:56 PM.
                        Dan B.
                        Player Ratings Administrator
                        www.fbgratings.com/members
                        NFL Scout
                        www.nfldraftscout.com/members

                        Petition to EA for FBG Ratings:
                        https://www.change.org/p/ea-sports-t...bers-index-php

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                        • A4ugua5tr
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 9

                          #1137
                          Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                          in the way the interviewee indicates..

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                          • DCEBB2001
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 2569

                            #1138
                            Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                            With the combine being completed today, it should only be a week until the actual BLESTO results are released to the teams. Once that happens, I will start working on the physical attributes for the rookies and continue to update them as we move toward the draft. I am going to be in touch with our webmaster later this week to discuss adding the rookies early this year so everyone can see how the players are rated BEFORE their teams draft them. No promises, but it would be fun to see where your personal man-crush of a prospect lands.

                            Also, I will be updating the rosters and ratings once more before the new league year starts on 3/11.
                            Dan B.
                            Player Ratings Administrator
                            www.fbgratings.com/members
                            NFL Scout
                            www.nfldraftscout.com/members

                            Petition to EA for FBG Ratings:
                            https://www.change.org/p/ea-sports-t...bers-index-php

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                            • ich2233
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 108

                              #1139
                              Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                              What do you guys do about starting a CFM with this Roster? I really want to do it but anyone that is Injured at the moment would have to be permanently down graded for the duration of the CFM. Does anyone know a way around this, like using previous ratings from past FBG updates, or just compare him with someone you think he's equal to?

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                              • jovanitoliver415
                                Banned
                                • Dec 2013
                                • 54

                                #1140
                                Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                                anybody wanna help me finsh updating the new fbg ratings into madden on xbox ? i have alota teams done already

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