Sports Daily: LeBron's Declaration

[OkayC]

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As far as this whole lebron thing. Idc what he proclaims to be, He could proclaim himself the greatest ever for all i care. i just dont care what athletes call themselves. i think the only sad part is that lebron may not be remembered as being one of the top 3 greatest, partially because of his passive attitude on the court. But imo as long as he has rings, why the heck should he care about how he's remembered anyway. I mean the dude is in a class of just absolutely elite players that i don't see anyone matching anytime soon. The only player that will come close to that elite list of players of lebron mj and others is durant. And even then i think people don't like to acknowledge that durant could nip at lebrons heels only cuz its crazy to think another player could come that close to lbj, but i still think even durants potential will only allow him to just barely touch lebrons heels. Overall the dude is great and could go down as top 3 greatest ever, he can call himself what he wants.

Yea i know strange to see me give such praise to lebron, i really don't hate the dude at all, nor do i even care about what the heat do most of the time. Its just alot of heat fans have annoyed me over the years so i tend to give the team and lebron more crap than what is do.

[poloelite]

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Let's be real about Lebron. He has only been the undisputed best player in the league for 2 seasons, last year and the year before. This year Durant is on his side and leading MVP candidate.


Before these last two years Kobe was still in winning mode and Lebron had trouble closing games and an awful NBA Finals. While what he did in Cleveland was impressive, it wasn't all time great impressive, especially top 4 worthy. He basically had great stats on underachieving teams. I've seen TMac, AI and Grant Hill do similar. This next phase of Lebron's should be about separating himself or establishing something freakish no one has ever done before.


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[ojandpizza]

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Let's be real about Lebron. He has only been the undisputed best player in the league for 2 seasons, last year and the year before. This year Durant is on his side and leading MVP candidate.


Before these last two years Kobe was still in winning mode and Lebron had trouble closing games and an awful NBA Finals. While what he did in Cleveland was impressive, it wasn't all time great impressive, especially top 4 worthy. He basically had great stats on underachieving teams. I've seen TMac, AI and Grant Hill do similar. This next phase of Lebron's should be about separating himself or establishing something freakish no one has ever done before.


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Bitter Cleveland fan?

[ClutchCity]

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Bitter Cleveland fan?

Just because there is truth in poloelite statement doesn't make him a bitter fan at all. Its true 2 years ago he became the best player when he got his 1st. I personally didn't like it all because of all the media hype and every bandwagon fan known to basketball decided to become overnight Heat fans. I know true Heat fans and none of em give Lebron praise. Remember Lebron wouldn't have 2 titles if it weren't for Ray Allen game 6. Nothing taken away from the team, but the fact that he's saying he's going to be the best ever. Comes with a lot of success, which he has accomplished already. Its going to be interesting is really the point I am trying to get to.

[EAGLESFAN10]

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Let's be real about Lebron. He has only been the undisputed best player in the league for 2 seasons, last year and the year before. This year Durant is on his side and leading MVP candidate.


Before these last two years Kobe was still in winning mode and Lebron had trouble closing games and an awful NBA Finals. While what he did in Cleveland was impressive, it wasn't all time great impressive, especially top 4 worthy. He basically had great stats on underachieving teams. I've seen TMac, AI and Grant Hill do similar. This next phase of Lebron's should be about separating himself or establishing something freakish no one has ever done before.


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Uhh Durant isnt "Leading" the MVP Race it's damn near a Toss up and I give LeBron the edge right now

What's gone hurt Durant's chances at winning it is Westbrook IMO

[lilteapot]

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Just because there is truth in poloelite statement doesn't make him a bitter fan at all. Its true 2 years ago he became the best player when he got his 1st. I personally didn't like it all because of all the media hype and every bandwagon fan known to basketball decided to become overnight Heat fans. I know true Heat fans and none of em give Lebron praise. Remember Lebron wouldn't have 2 titles if it weren't for Ray Allen game 6. Nothing taken away from the team, but the fact that he's saying he's going to be the best ever. Comes with a lot of success, which he has accomplished already. Its going to be interesting is really the point I am trying to get to.

And ray allen would never have gotten that shot if not for chris bosh. and that whole situation would never have happened if lebron had not gone on that run early in the 4th.

[The 24th Letter]

Sports Daily: LeBron's Declaration

Just because there is truth in poloelite statement doesn't make him a bitter fan at all. Its true 2 years ago he became the best player when he got his 1st. I personally didn't like it all because of all the media hype and every bandwagon fan known to basketball decided to become overnight Heat fans. I know true Heat fans and none of em give Lebron praise. Remember Lebron wouldn't have 2 titles if it weren't for Ray Allen game 6. Nothing taken away from the team, but the fact that he's saying he's going to be the best ever. Comes with a lot of success, which he has accomplished already. Its going to be interesting is really the point I am trying to get to.

If your "true Heat fan" friends don't give LeBron praise then I find it hard to believe they are "true Heat fans"

again with the whole "if it wasn't for Ray Allen" thing? SMH. It's like every Bron discussion takes place in bizarro world...


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[ojandpizza]

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The fact that every single person has to dig so deep to find silly arguments like this against LeBron, whether your a Jordan fan, Kobe fan, whoever fan, the fact that people have to dig into things that really have nothing to do with how good he is/isn't at basketball is really saying something..

Ray Allen hitting or missing that shot has nothing to do with how great of a player LeBron is.. If that's the judgement someone has to reach for to say he isn't a Jordan or a Kobe then there isn't anything any of us should even respond with to make an argument.. So laughable and elementary.

[EAGLESFAN10]

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The problem I have is why can't people just appreciate Greatness when it presents itself

LeBron wants to set his own path not leave up to what Jordan did in his career

Whether people like him or not he WILL be known as the one of the GREATEST players to play the game of Basketball

[ojandpizza]

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Just because there is truth in poloelite statement doesn't make him a bitter fan at all. Its true 2 years ago he became the best player when he got his 1st.

He's a Cleveland fan, meaning he should know damn well what LeBron did for that organization and how high of a level he was playing while he was there.. It was much more than just "good stats on a bad team" and comparing what he had done with his career at that point to Iverson and T-Mac's careers is just borderline disrespectful.. I think it was pretty apparent to most that he was the best player in the league when he left Cleveland, regardless of if he had a ring or didn't.. So yeah I'll consider him a bitter fan if the only argument he has is what he posted.. Because it's pretty much crap from my perspective..

It's hilarious to me that some of the same people who want to say Durant is better than LeBron or at his level are the same people who say LeBron wasn't the best in the league before he had a ring.. Meanwhile Durant also doesn't have a ring, nor an MVP award, and his only trip to the finals he was beat by this guy he's supposedly better than... Not to mention he didn't get there last year without his other superstar, which LeBron didn't even have one in Cleveland... But that's all sidetrack talk, my rant has nothing to do with Durant so I'll get off that argument..

You know I remember people who didn't like Jordan, and I've been right in the middle of all the crazy Laker/Kobe good and bad fans and haters, but I don't think I've ever witnessed people just seemingly have to dig and reach for lame excuses to try and knock down a players greatness the way people do with LeBron. Not just talking about this thread or anyone in particular but just over the years..

It's always the smallest things, any hole in his game just to try and say he isn't perfect.. No basketball player is perfect, no athlete is perfect, no person is perfect, people act like when someone compares him to other great players we are really comparing him to Jesus or something.. It's bizarre.

[ClutchCity]

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He's a Cleveland fan, meaning he should know damn well what LeBron did for that organization and how high of a level he was playing while he was there.. It was much more than just "good stats on a bad team" and comparing what he had done with his career at that point to Iverson and T-Mac's careers is just borderline disrespectful.. I think it was pretty apparent to most that he was the best player in the league when he left Cleveland, regardless of if he had a ring or didn't.. So yeah I'll consider him a bitter fan if the only argument he has is what he posted.. Because it's pretty much crap from my perspective..

It's hilarious to me that some of the same people who want to say Durant is better than LeBron or at his level are the same people who say LeBron wasn't the best in the league before he had a ring.. Meanwhile Durant also doesn't have a ring, nor an MVP award, and his only trip to the finals he was beat by this guy he's supposedly better than... Not to mention he didn't get there last year without his other superstar, which LeBron didn't even have one in Cleveland... But that's all sidetrack talk, my rant has nothing to do with Durant so I'll get off that argument..

You know I remember people who didn't like Jordan, and I've been right in the middle of all the crazy Laker/Kobe good and bad fans and haters, but I don't think I've ever witnessed people just seemingly have to dig and reach for lame excuses to try and knock down a players greatness the way people do with LeBron. Not just talking about this thread or anyone in particular but just over the years..

It's always the smallest things, any hole in his game just to try and say he isn't perfect.. No basketball player is perfect, no athlete is perfect, no person is perfect, people act like when someone compares him to other great players we are really comparing him to Jesus or something.. It's bizarre.

Your last sentence is why I'm responding. Lebron does get praised like he's Jesus of Basketball. C'mon the topic is Lebrons declaration like God commanded him to be the face of the NBA. Im not taking anything away from his career when I mention the moments his teammates saved his *** or made him look good. Its just that you guys get all antsy when someone mentions the truth. So what if the Ray Allen thing is old. That moment significantly changed the whole outcome on Lebrons career so you females can continue to articulate how great he is.

The whole Durant MVP conversation I don't care. Durant definitely not the leader he should be so I don't feel its necessary to compare them both stat for stat. They both have different roles on the floor so it's tough to draw comparison sometimes. I just think its annoying when OKC never gets the proper repesct. Because truthfully Durant is in the footsteps or shadow of Lebron. He's accomplished so much in his young career like Lebron did. I get sick of people who are in infatuation with Lebron its like he is Miami Heat. like Wade, Bosh, and Allen don't exist lol.

[ClutchCity]

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If your "true Heat fan" friends don't give LeBron praise then I find it hard to believe they are "true Heat fans"

again with the whole "if it wasn't for Ray Allen" thing? SMH. It's like every Bron discussion takes place in bizarro world...


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Its because they were Heat fans since guys like Glen Rice, Tim Hardaway, and Alonzo Mourning were there. Don't get me wrong they love the fact that Lebrons there. But they don't overdose on the praise like bandwagon fans do.

[lilteapot]

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Your last sentence is why I'm responding. Lebron does get praised like he's Jesus of Basketball. C'mon the topic is Lebrons declaration like God commanded him to be the face of the NBA. Im not taking anything away from his career when I mention the moments his teammates saved his *** or made him look good. Its just that you guys get all antsy when someone mentions the truth. So what if the Ray Allen thing is old. That moment significantly changed the whole outcome on Lebrons career so you females can continue to articulate how great he is.

The whole Durant MVP conversation I don't care. Durant definitely not the leader he should be so I don't feel its necessary to compare them both stat for stat. They both have different roles on the floor so it's tough to draw comparison sometimes. I just think its annoying when OKC never gets the proper repesct. Because truthfully Durant is in the footsteps or shadow of Lebron. He's accomplished so much in his young career like Lebron did. I get sick of people who are in infatuation with Lebron its like he is Miami Heat. like Wade, Bosh, and Allen don't exist lol.

Uh yeah you're reading way too much into this. Nobody has ever said he was a perfect player or even implied it. As for the title of the thread, come on buddy, let's not try to pick up on things that aren't even there.

And people get annoyed when someone tries to say Lebron wouldn't be a two time champion if it weren't for his teammates/the Ray Allen shot because it's an incredibly stupid statement. You can literally say that about any great player that has ever won a title, and it's not even necessarily a bad thing, but people try and spin it into an insult, like anything and everything related to Lebron James.

BTW, if you're in a thread ABOUT Lebron james, you kind of should expect the posts to be mainly about LEBRON JAMES, not wade/bosh/allen, not because nobody wants to give the rest of the team their dues, but because it IS A THREAD ABOUT LEBRON JAMES.

[ojandpizza]

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Antsy when someone mentions the truth? That his career was Iverson and T-Mac level? PLEASE with that, that's ridiculous. LeBron wasn't the best player because he couldn't win a championship with Mo Williams?

And yeah Allen hit a big shot? What does that have at all to do with this conversation? Paxson hit game winning playoff shots for Jordan, Kerr hit game winning playoff shots for Jordan. Horry hit shots for Kobe, Shaq, Duncan, Fisher hit game winning playoff shots for Kobe and Shaq. James Worthy beat Magic out for finals MVP when they won a championship, Maxwell beat Bird out for a finals MVP..

A TEAM wins championships, and a team hits shots and scores points.. I don't even understand what argument you're making here.

[BringTheHeat]

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Your last sentence is why I'm responding. Lebron does get praised like he's Jesus of Basketball. C'mon the topic is Lebrons declaration like God commanded him to be the face of the NBA. Im not taking anything away from his career when I mention the moments his teammates saved his *** or made him look good. Its just that you guys get all antsy when someone mentions the truth. So what if the Ray Allen thing is old. That moment significantly changed the whole outcome on Lebrons career so you females can continue to articulate how great he is.

The whole Durant MVP conversation I don't care. Durant definitely not the leader he should be so I don't feel its necessary to compare them both stat for stat. They both have different roles on the floor so it's tough to draw comparison sometimes. I just think its annoying when OKC never gets the proper repesct. Because truthfully Durant is in the footsteps or shadow of Lebron. He's accomplished so much in his young career like Lebron did. I get sick of people who are in infatuation with Lebron its like he is Miami Heat. like Wade, Bosh, and Allen don't exist lol.