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  • Steve_OS
    Editor-in-Chief
    • Jul 2002
    • 33872

    #1

    The NCAA Debated Allowing Player Names In Video Games



    In a report recently filed by Deadspin, it appears the NCAA came close to allowing real player names in the NCAA Football video game series, with EA agreeing to include academic features and scores within the game (such as the APR). Be sure to read the full report which includes some interesting double standards by the NCAA.

    "Using the rosters in the games, and maybe the names of student-athletes on jerseys in the game would be worthwhile," the NCAA document said in summarizing CLC's position. "Reasons: 1) EA would put into each game all players on the entire roster and they include over 140 Div. I schools in their games; 2) Rosters are embedded within the product/game (hidden, in a way) not on the cover/outside when you buy the product; and 3) this would wipe out 3rd party infringers — better to have schools/conferences and the NCAA control this."

    Do you think we'll see an NCAA Football game on this new generation of consoles?
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  • MrSerendipity
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    Re: The NCAA Debated Allowing Player Names In Video Games

    I most certainly hope so. NCAA 14 is really the only reason I still own a PS3. And I can't imagine how painful it's going to be around Jul-Aug when the usual NCAA Football Locomotive isn't on the tracks. At this point, I feel like they should just grant players an opportunity to opt in or out of the game. Give them a deadline, a form that states they can't sue for likeness in the event they opt in and then run business as usual for the players who opt out.
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    • jello1717
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      • Feb 2006
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      #3
      Re: The NCAA Debated Allowing Player Names In Video Games

      Originally posted by Steve_OS
      Do you think we'll see an NCAA Football game on this new generation of consoles?
      Sadly, absolutely not. It really sucks for me since NCAA is pretty much the only game that I play.
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      • Jakeness23
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        • Aug 2009
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        #4
        One of the big things I'm hoping for in this generation is either A) EA starts making worthwhile products, or B) They implode and leave the sports scene forever and someone else picks it up.

        Oh and duh... fully customizable games with no real players, so we can create the leagues ourselves!
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        • JoshC1977
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          • Dec 2010
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          Re: The NCAA Debated Allowing Player Names In Video Games

          Originally posted by Jakeness23
          One of the big things I'm hoping for in this generation is either A) EA starts making worthwhile products, or B) They implode and leave the sports scene forever and someone else picks it up.

          Oh and duh... fully customizable games with no real players, so we can create the leagues ourselves!
          Even better, make it so the game doesn't ship with a roster...the game randomly generates the roster at startup based on a general set of instructions like type of offense, relative strength of team, etc

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          • BizDevConglomerate
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            • Apr 2012
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            #6
            Originally posted by Jakeness23
            One of the big things I'm hoping for in this generation is either A) EA starts making worthwhile products, or B) They implode and leave the sports scene forever and someone else picks it up.

            Oh and duh... fully customizable games with no real players, so we can create the leagues ourselves!
            Thank you my friend. You are smart

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            • rudeworld
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              • Nov 2003
              • 257

              #7
              I wish 2K makes an NCAA game.... Football/Basketball (preferably College Hoops). I doubt that will happen though only because it too much legal hassle for the game companies to go through, getting sued an all (looking at you EA SPORTS).

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              • TDenverFan
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                • Jan 2011
                • 3457

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                Re: The NCAA Debated Allowing Player Names In Video Games

                Originally posted by rudeworld
                I wish 2K makes an NCAA game.... Football/Basketball (preferably College Hoops). I doubt that will happen though only because it too much legal hassle for the game companies to go through, getting sued an all (looking at you EA SPORTS).
                How is this EA's fault?
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                • acts238shaun
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                  • Dec 2005
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                  #9
                  Re: The NCAA Debated Allowing Player Names In Video Games

                  Originally posted by Steve_OS


                  In a report recently filed by Deadspin, it appears the NCAA came close to allowing real player names in the NCAA Football video game series, with EA agreeing to include academic features and scores within the game (such as the APR). Be sure to read the full report which includes some interesting double standards by the NCAA.


                  Do you think we'll see an NCAA Football game on this new generation of consoles?
                  Yes, but it will be like All-Pro Football 2K5. They had agreements with Barry Sanders and a bunch of other All-Americans/Heisman winners for Ultimate team and Heisman mode - do it again for the next NCAA football. You keep the schools, the conferences and there are no current player likenesses. Allow roster editing, keep the recruiting the same, update the conferences and uniforms - done. Expand Teambuilder and ability to expand/customize conferences and playoff as well. I don't care if the rosters match real life. Gameplay is more important.

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                  • herropreese
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                    • Jul 2011
                    • 552

                    #10
                    Re: The NCAA Debated Allowing Player Names In Video Games

                    Originally posted by acts238shaun
                    Yes, but it will be like All-Pro Football 2K5. They had agreements with Barry Sanders and a bunch of other All-Americans/Heisman winners for Ultimate team and Heisman mode - do it again for the next NCAA football. You keep the schools, the conferences and there are no current player likenesses. Allow roster editing, keep the recruiting the same, update the conferences and uniforms - done. Expand Teambuilder and ability to expand/customize conferences and playoff as well. I don't care if the rosters match real life. Gameplay is more important.
                    I would love this idea.

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                    • fballturkey
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                      • Jul 2011
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                      Re: The NCAA Debated Allowing Player Names In Video Games

                      For the big fans of the game like you and me that would work great. The casual fan is going to get very upset when they turn on the game and FSU's QB is a white pocket passer. And they need those casual fan sales to make the game profitable.
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                      • BJNT
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                        • Sep 2002
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                        #12
                        Re: The NCAA Debated Allowing Player Names In Video Games

                        Originally posted by fballturkey
                        For the big fans of the game like you and me that would work great. The casual fan is going to get very upset when they turn on the game and FSU's QB is a white pocket passer. And they need those casual fan sales to make the game profitable.
                        That can be solved with roster sharing.

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                        • jello1717
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                          • Feb 2006
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                          #13
                          Re: The NCAA Debated Allowing Player Names In Video Games

                          Originally posted by BJNT
                          That can be solved with roster sharing.
                          Anyone that thinks that a completely generic college football game would work is fooling themselves. As I wrote earlier this is pretty much the only game that I play and I'd LOVE to have it keep going, even if generic. Hell, unless I'm using my Wolverines, I don't even care a little bit about the default rosters. I only play dynasty mode and it doesn't get REALLY interesting for me until I'm using the players that I recruited so generic default rosters wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

                          However, people like us are in the extreme minority for this game (and I'd imagine all sports games) and the vast majority of people that buy NCAA (thus making it viable) are people who absolutely would be bothered by generic rosters (and most likely wouldn't even buy the game because of it). Even if we could edit the rosters to be accurate and could share them, that wouldn't get the casual guys to buy the game. That also would only work for guys playing dynasty modes. You wouldn't be able to use them for online matches (even with what a horrible experience those are, there are still people who only play online matches) because people would have to have the exact same rosters and I'm sure people would complain too much about the player ratings because, for example, Winston was overpowered by the roster editor while Mariota was too nerfed.
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                          • fballturkey
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                            • Jul 2011
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                            #14
                            Re: The NCAA Debated Allowing Player Names In Video Games

                            Originally posted by BJNT
                            That can be solved with roster sharing.
                            For me and you and everyone that posts here yes. For most casual fans no.
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                            • Cardot
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                              • Feb 2003
                              • 6164

                              #15
                              Re: The NCAA Debated Allowing Player Names In Video Games

                              Originally posted by fballturkey
                              For me and you and everyone that posts here yes. For most casual fans no.
                              I don't necessarily disagree...and a few years back I would have definitely agreed. But these days the whole share/download concept seems a bit more common in other avenues of life. I am not sure that as many people as we think would be turned off by the idea?

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