Enough of the teammate score

[Rdrunner]

Do away with this teammate score. Since the game goes into cheat mode and the human player has no control on what goes on, there is no reason to keep penalizing us for things the AI will not allow us to do.

When suddenly, for stretches, our passes go into slow motion so the opponent can get to it ...... since suddenly, for stretches, our player goes into some kind of mode where he is running in mud and all of a sudden can't keep people from driving around him or play any kind of defense even though he is supposedly a lock down defender......these are AI cheats, not the player's fault.

When a pass goes the complete opposite direction from where I aimed it, that is not my doing so I shouldn't get penalized. When a ball flies WAY over my head on a missed shot and the opponent 10 feet behind me gets a rebound that is coming down from above him, it's me getting penalized in the score cuz I'm not 10 feet tall and I allowed the offensive rebound.

When a player comes racing across the court and "blocks" a shot that is coming down to the basket, I get penalized for having a shot blocked that should have been called goaltending. This is my fault how?

Just do away with the stupid score thing UNLESS you will do away with the cheat code and let things be determined by our play.

[DJ_Solis]

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Just ignore the grade man. When you learn to not care about your grade, the game isn't nearly as frustrating. As for the cheating, I'm not sure I follow you. Some of the things mentioned are just problems with the game in general, the game is not perfect. Other things I've never seen or heard of. Just settle down a little bit.


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[kadzier]

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I disagree with doing away with it, it is a very useful feature, however it could be tightened up and not penalize you unfairly for things beyond your control.

[Rdrunner]

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Another thing, penalizing me for allowing a score with less than 2 minutes left in a game we're winning by 30 points. Why? No one is going to be playing tight defense in that situation. The tight defense is what got us so far ahead. We proved our point.

[Rdrunner]

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Just ignore the grade man. When you learn to not care about your grade, the game isn't nearly as frustrating. As for the cheating, I'm not sure I follow you. Some of the things mentioned are just problems with the game in general, the game is not perfect. Other things I've never seen or heard of. Just settle down a little bit.


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You're probably right. Question, tho. Doesn't the coach use that grade to determine how many minutes you play?

I mean, that's the only reason I can see for losing minutes after coming off one of the best statistical games I ever had. That dumb rating was a D+ cuz I was running in mud defensively all game cuz Ellis was playing against me. That was the only negative "stat" I had.

[DJ_Solis]

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You're probably right. Question, tho. Doesn't the coach use that grade to determine how many minutes you play?



I mean, that's the only reason I can see for losing minutes after coming off one of the best statistical games I ever had. That dumb rating was a D+ cuz I was running in mud defensively all game cuz Ellis was playing against me. That was the only negative "stat" I had.

Idk if that grade determines your minutes or not. I know at the beginning of the game there will be certain times where the coach says you'll lose minutes almost regardless if what you do.
If you feel like you're getting stuck in mud try messing with your defense assist strength meter. I like mine at 20 because it feels like I have more control over my player. You can try messing with it to see if it helps. Also if you haven't upped your quickness, that helps as well.


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[SPRINGS03]

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Yeah the teammate score has been broken since it was introduced. And it's insulting because you can tell it's what 2k thinks is how basketball play should be graded, and considering i trust my bball IQ waaaay more than anyone on the development teams and considering they seem to have questionable knowledge about basketball fundamentals(who else would design a game where a wide open man cuts AWAY from a pass as soon as it's thrown to them?) i don't think it should be up to them to decide what constitutes good basketball.

Grading system should definitely be done away with and i've said this before. This kind of thing literally happens all the time: i go up to contest a shot "bad block attempt" the shot gets blocked by me "Shot blocked". Are you kidding me? I literally blocked a shot and somehow get bad block attempt and shot blocked simultaneously on the same play? What is this even? Does anyone test this? Or my favorite "bad fastbreak defense", so when the ball gets thrown to somebody who's way ahead of everyone else and he gets an easy 2 it's all my fault somehow? I could talk about all the problems with the grading system all day, but the bottom line is it shouldn't even exist. And this is coming from someone who averages an A in my career on superstar.

[yachitunpiwo]

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The tight defense is what got is so far ahead.

[Rdrunner]

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Yeah the teammate score has been broken since it was introduced. And it's insulting because you can tell it's what 2k thinks is how basketball play should be graded, and considering i trust my bball IQ waaaay more than anyone on the development teams and considering they seem to have questionable knowledge about basketball fundamentals(who else would design a game where a wide open man cuts AWAY from a pass as soon as it's thrown to them?) i don't think it should be up to them to decide what constitutes good basketball.

Grading system should definitely be done away with and i've said this before. This kind of thing literally happens all the time: i go up to contest a shot "bad block attempt" the shot gets blocked by me "Shot blocked". Are you kidding me? I literally blocked a shot and somehow get bad block attempt and shot blocked simultaneously on the same play? What is this even? Does anyone test this? Or my favorite "bad fastbreak defense", so when the ball gets thrown to somebody who's way ahead of everyone else and he gets an easy 2 it's all my fault somehow? I could talk about all the problems with the grading system all day, but the bottom line is it shouldn't even exist. And this is coming from someone who averages an A in my career on superstar.

I get a "bad pass" thing sometimes when I pass the ball to a guy who immediately puts it in the basket. Another good one, my team gets a rebound, the guy throws the ball down court to a guy on a break, I am running full speed to the other end and get hit up with a "bad transition" penalty. Last night I saw the "bad block attempt" on a shot I blocked.

[El_Poopador]

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my biggest issue is the "who to guard" indicator. half the time im expected to guard three players in a single possession for no reason. ill be guarding my own man and then my teammate will randomly leave their assignment and it becomes my assignment as he catches the pass. this of course leads to "allow man to score".

it also doesnt recognize when i try to switch on say a pick and roll or my teammate doesnt do anything to hedge the screen or help in any way. if i collapse into the paint to prevent an open layup/dunk and they kick it out to my guy for a jumper i shouldnt be penalized. i prevented the easy basket but my grade goes down? even if the poe is nothing inside? they need to work on the "coach" recognizing when you play good help defense. you dont get rewarded for helping your teammates but if you help and no one else rotates you get penalized.

[jaydoug24]

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Just don't pay attention to it. It has been broken since it was implemented. I have had times where I get penalized for leaving my man but Im standing in front of him. Wherever I get a block my man always gets the offensive rebound, so I net a 0 increase for the team grade. I just laugh at how bad 2K must be at basketball.

[malowry]

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My favorite part is when I'm WIDE OPEN and I call for the ball and immediately get "Bad Call for Pass". Okay. I'm sorry. How dare I get open and ask my teammates for the ball. I guess the best alternative is to let my point guard take a contested fadeaway 20-footer at the shot clock buzzer. My mistake.

[El_Poopador]

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My favorite part is when I'm WIDE OPEN and I call for the ball and immediately get "Bad Call for Pass". Okay. I'm sorry. How dare I get open and ask my teammates for the ball. I guess the best alternative is to let my point guard take a contested fadeaway 20-footer at the shot clock buzzer. My mistake.

this one i dont think is 100% wrong. i think what it does is look at the path between the ball and you when you call for the pass. so even if youre wide open the guy who has the ball may not be able to make a clean pass so you get penalized. not saying thats how it should be but just my guess on how it works. i think it looks at the path the ball would have to take vs whether youre open or in a good position to make a play. since the ai is not very adept at swing passes they think you want the ball handler to pass you the ball directly.

[Pokes404]

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Not to be "that guy," but I just wanted to offer a counter-point. For me personally, I've never had the problem with a teammate grade. In fact, I've felt it's been a bit too easy to get a high grade. I've had an "A" or "A-" at halftime before. That isn't the norm, but it's also not a rare occurrence either. And very rarely do I play a full game and end up with anything less than an "A-"

I find the "bad call for pass" penalty to be the only one that gets under my skin. Someone pointed out that the game may take into account the path the pass is going to take, and not whether you're actually open or not. I think this is true; however, I've been marked down for this during instances when there was no danger of the pass getting intercepted. So this one to me is definitely one that needs to be reworked.

Other than that, I get the occasional "Allow Man to Score" when I just forced him into a contested layup, but I've never noticed anything overly wrong with the teammate grade. Count me as one who really likes the idea behind it. I like the idea of being graded and getting credit for your play ... even in those aspects that don't show up in the stat sheet.

[Rdrunner]

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Not to be "that guy," but I just wanted to offer a counter-point. For me personally, I've never had the problem with a teammate grade. In fact, I've felt it's been a bit too easy to get a high grade. I've had an "A" or "A-" at halftime before. That isn't the norm, but it's also not a rare occurrence either. And very rarely do I play a full game and end up with anything less than an "A-"

I find the "bad call for pass" penalty to be the only one that gets under my skin. Someone pointed out that the game may take into account the path the pass is going to take, and not whether you're actually open or not. I think this is true; however, I've been marked down for this during instances when there was no danger of the pass getting intercepted. So this one to me is definitely one that needs to be reworked.

Other than that, I get the occasional "Allow Man to Score" when I just forced him into a contested layup, but I've never noticed anything overly wrong with the teammate grade. Count me as one who really likes the idea behind it. I like the idea of being graded and getting credit for your play ... even in those aspects that don't show up in the stat sheet.

And the games that are totally scripted? Like the one where you can't hit a shot no matter what cuz the cut scene that has you taking 20 practice shots is coming up, or the one where you can't hit a free throw no matter what cuz the practice 50 free throw cut scene is coming up?

Most of the "grades" should take into account the situation. Allowing a man to score late in a game where you are 20 or more points ahead should not carry much, if any, weight in the scoring, but they are all graded the same which is ridiculous. Also, I really don't think allowing one of the league leaders to score should be weighted as heavily as allowing a 12th guy to score.

The size of the penalties are far more then the rewards you get for something good. I needed 1 rebound, 1 steal, and 2 free throw shots to get my grade back up to where it was before I got penalized for allowing a basket.