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you cant move a player from wr to another position.i think its the only position that its not possible to change.Comment
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two rules. If you ever change a QB to anything else, even for fun, he will never be a QB again. If you ever change anyone, even for fun, to the WR position, he will forever be a WR. And moving a WR to TE is semi cheese but this season, the drafted players are so weird, a number of changes almost have to be made.Comment
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two rules. If you ever change a QB to anything else, even for fun, he will never be a QB again. If you ever change anyone, even for fun, to the WR position, he will forever be a WR. And moving a WR to TE is semi cheese but this season, the drafted players are so weird, a number of changes almost have to be made.
I understand why people say moving a WR to TE is cheesy (I mean does anyone really think Desean Jackson at TE is realistic) but there really is a need to be able to move WR to TE in some cases.
A two players I've really wanted to convert to TE are Vincent Jackson and Ramses Barden. Both are very realistic options at TEs, yes Vincent Jackson has a slight speed advantage but no more so than Vernon Davis or Jared Cook (not to mention there is a draftable TE that potentially has 95 speed, now that's cheesy). There are a few others I've wanted to convert but I can't remember who at the moment.
The part that sucks about only starting them there but not converting them is that you don't get their goal changes and they'll never be recognized like a TE so you still have to carry TEs that are essentially a waste of space (not to mention that unless you do cheese with the TE he'll never make the pro bowl due to the fact that he's recognized as a WR and lets be honest very rarely if ever has a TE ever put up numbers comparable to the best WRs).
What I think they should do is make it possible to switch WR to TE BUT make it so that there are certain stipulations to make it allowable (I.e. The option only comes up if they are under X speed, X accelertion, have to be X height and only the does the option become allowable).
Another reason this bothers me personally is when it comes to being able to switch a WR to a different position that's not TE. Like I wanted to switch Brandon Banks to a HB because after 4 years of making him a great kick returner (upping his carry, fight for yards, etc) but neglecting his catching because I never used him as a WR. It began to make it harder and harder to keep him on my roster as a WR simply as a KR/PR when I couldn't plug him in as my 2nd string HB.
Similar to how CJ Spiller was handled before he became a breakout star. He was drafted as a HB, switched to WR due to the not needing him as a HB but being short on recievers and the the next season switched him back to HB. The fact that things like this are a big part of the game of football but not allowable in a game that is supposed to simulate that is ridiculous.
Anyway all that long winded post summarized by saying I really wish they would find a way to keep out the cheese but still include these things. I mean you can do the WR to TE in the depth chart so why not just let us switch the position officially? Makes no sense.Last edited by Ampking101; 03-06-2014, 09:56 AM.
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There shouldn't be any restrictions on moving a WR to TE, but the game should be designed well enough to make that switch as bad a decision as real life. DeSean Jackson as a TE would get completely destroyed trying to block or release against OLBs and if the game registered that, people wouldn't even want him there.Bills, Sabres, Illini, Cubs, basically any team that abuses its fanbase and I'm there.Comment
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This really irritates me. Yes, moving a fast undersized player to TE is cheese, however - you should be able to do it. Further more, you should be able to move any player to any position from any position.
Like someone mentioned above, there should be disadvantages inherent within the game to have a tiny WR moved to TE - he should get demolished in any blocking situation he should be completely useless. And TEs in the game currently are immune to "press coverage" which is in my top ten Madden stupidity issues. There are several teams in the NFL that actually will beat the heck out of TEs at the LOS to disrupt the impact they may have on the passing game. Some teams have DEs give them a "balance check" as they go by to rush the QB, and in at least two cases - teams have treated prolific receiving TEs to punt gunner treatment (meaning they have put two defenders on them at the LOS and harassed him at the snap with two defenders - EA Sports "if its in the game, well maybe next year..."
Now I have never had a WR that I wanted to move to TE, but on several occasions I have had a LB that I wanted to move to Safety. Undersized LBs galore - little 235lbs guys with great speed and hit power - make them a safety and boom you have a better tackling better, hit power player as your "last line of defense" - but wait, despite this happening in the NFL many times in history (Darren Woodson of the Cowboys was a OLB in college and played safety - has 3 SB rings).
The fact that EA is still dictating what you can and can't do in terms of player positions is beyond annoying. They really need to focus on cleaning up "old code" and allowing the game to become something better than it is now - if you are wondering what I mean take a bunch of Ps/Ks and move them to OL and see them not get destroyed every time - I am sorry but the world's strongest 175lbs man can not play OG in the NFL - it just isn't possible he would get killed within the first series. The game needs to be programmed to allow for people to make dumb moves and get punished within the game play for being dumb.
Another thing I wish EA would do is have position changes impact a player's play recognition, development, and AWR ratings. Development would drop 1 level each time a player has his position changed. The AWR/PRC change would be a drop based on how drastic the positional change is - OLBs to ILB/MLB or DE and you would see a 10 point drop in PRC & AWR. Safety/CB in either direction should be -10. A move to any other position on defense would result in -25 in both. This by the way is a sacrifice I would be willing to make to move that OLB to SS, especially because of the stupidity of XP progression because I can then just buy back those points.
WR to HB or TE should be - 20 AWR (keep in mind that PRC has no impact on offensive players - so the AWR drop needs to be steeper). OT to OG/C -20 - any OL to TE (a move I would make given the right OL player for a third TE for short yardage plays/goal line) should be -35. Moving a player from offense to defense or vice versa should be -50 AWR.
This would "replicate" the adjustment period that the player would go through while "learning" a new position.
The point being - There should be no arbitrary restrictions on position changes, but the game should have built in "logic" that means any move comes at a price. The price may be that the player you move will have to be a backup while you use the cheesy as hell XP system to buy his way into the starter role. While I hate the XP system, maybe as much as any of the ridiculousness in the Maddenverse, it should be utilized to allow for user flexibility...
PS. I find there to be no reason that a Madden gamer should be prevented from moving a WR/HB or any player for that matter to QB. There are current NFL players that played college ball as QBs, and if you want to move those guys or any player to QB it is fine with me. Run Percy Harvin out as your QB if you want - I don't care, cuz it will take you a month of Sundays to get his accuracy ratings any where near where he will be useful as a QB - and no I am not scared of the "option" - I got some tricks for shutting that crap down and if your QB can't throw then it just makes it that much easier to stop...Comment
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I think you can make any change during the off season. But during the season, from Draft to end of playoffs, only certain moves can be made. From LT to RT, etc. I believe EA doesn't allow season position changes because it will mess up the XP goals (which I personally have a strong distaste for to begin with).
I wish EA/Tib would just make things realistic. A realistic progression system, realistic roster management (including practice squad), realistic stats generated (played and simmed), realistic off season (practice schedules for OTA's, training camp, pre-season and regular season), hiring and firing of coaching, management, scouting, and training staffs. Just let the things that affect player progression, and evaluation in real life be the things that affect player progression and evaluation in the game.Comment
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I think there should be ZERO stipulations. We should be able to play the game however we want.I understand why people say moving a WR to TE is cheesy (I mean does anyone really think Desean Jackson at TE is realistic) but there really is a need to be able to move WR to TE in some cases.
A two players I've really wanted to convert to TE are Vincent Jackson and Ramses Barden. Both are very realistic options at TEs, yes Vincent Jackson has a slight speed advantage but no more so than Vernon Davis or Jared Cook (not to mention there is a draftable TE that potentially has 95 speed, now that's cheesy). There are a few others I've wanted to convert but I can't remember who at the moment.
The part that sucks about only starting them there but not converting them is that you don't get their goal changes and they'll never be recognized like a TE so you still have to carry TEs that are essentially a waste of space (not to mention that unless you do cheese with the TE he'll never make the pro bowl due to the fact that he's recognized as a WR and lets be honest very rarely if ever has a TE ever put up numbers comparable to the best WRs).
What I think they should do is make it possible to switch WR to TE BUT make it so that there are certain stipulations to make it allowable (I.e. The option only comes up if they are under X speed, X accelertion, have to be X height and only the does the option become allowable).
Another reason this bothers me personally is when it comes to being able to switch a WR to a different position that's not TE. Like I wanted to switch Brandon Banks to a HB because after 4 years of making him a great kick returner (upping his carry, fight for yards, etc) but neglecting his catching because I never used him as a WR. It began to make it harder and harder to keep him on my roster as a WR simply as a KR/PR when I couldn't plug him in as my 2nd string HB.
Similar to how CJ Spiller was handled before he became a breakout star. He was drafted as a HB, switched to WR due to the not needing him as a HB but being short on recievers and the the next season switched him back to HB. The fact that things like this are a big part of the game of football but not allowable in a game that is supposed to simulate that is ridiculous.
Anyway all that long winded post summarized by saying I really wish they would find a way to keep out the cheese but still include these things. I mean you can do the WR to TE in the depth chart so why not just let us switch the position officially? Makes no sense.
As for online leagues, let the commissioner decide. For offline, let the user decide. Not EA/Tiburon.
https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056Originally posted by Therebelyell626I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image

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