NHL 15: Three Keys to Success

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  • SVCbearcat10
    Rookie
    • Jun 2013
    • 395

    #16
    I think AI will be key to the future of the NHL series. That being said, it could be cool to have a sim option with stick on stick collisions on and such. For a casual hockey fan, I think going more of a sim route will make it less playable. If you really pay attention, there is a big difference in how your 3rd line plays and what they can do compared to your 1st line. However with a video game and how frequent line changes are, I don't think implementing that difference in talent and play style works. You have to really know your players so you know how to play depending on who's on the ice. That's a lot to be aware of, where as now, you have a similar experience across any line that's on. They must give options!

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    • Dispatch
      MVP
      • Jan 2006
      • 2339

      #17
      Re: NHL 15: Three Keys to Success

      EA needs to start from the ground up when it comes to next gen. The game physics have been improved recently but they still have a long way to go. Until we get updated physics and AI I could care less about all of the other modes you guys are talking about. If the gameplay isn't there who cares if you can control every team in GM mode.

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      • THESHAMISASHAME
        MVP
        • Mar 2013
        • 1482

        #18
        Re: NHL 15: Three Keys to Success

        Please EA Dont turn this fine series into mlb the show on ice with little to no real player interaction or skill and if people want straight sim go play a cpu sim or strat o matic as this is still a video game and if you set up the right sliders its incredibly fun while maintaining a sim atmosphere SO please dont take the fun out of this game

        But do add more options so all can enjoy in there own way and lots more presentations stuff and create a goalie mask would be amazing
        Finally Roster share in NHL 22 ! Dreams do come true ! To Garryowen and Glory boys !

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        • THESHAMISASHAME
          MVP
          • Mar 2013
          • 1482

          #19
          Re: NHL 15: Three Keys to Success

          Originally posted by Rufio2031
          What Cletus said. I understand scaring people away that aren't into simulation, but they're essentially doing the exact opposite with people wanting simulation. Why don't we have the option to essentially turn Hitting Power down 53 clicks?
          Hi I dont want NHL jam either but its a fine line between sim and fun and let me tell you unless your just watching the game its no fun being overridden in sake of sim and whats worse is being given freebies for things you didnt earn either (see mlb the show ) so the happy medium is let the players play with smart AI and some sliders with depth !

          I just dont understand the fascination of 100% sim these days in video sports games ? As I said before its doesnt work well with video games so watch NHL , play Hockey , strato board game or a cpu sim game if you want numbers and total realism.

          If you look at the low sports games sales numbers its obvious most gamers dont want a un interactive experience either for sake of sim .
          Last edited by THESHAMISASHAME; 03-06-2014, 04:38 PM.
          Finally Roster share in NHL 22 ! Dreams do come true ! To Garryowen and Glory boys !

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          • Majingir
            Moderator
            • Apr 2005
            • 47426

            #20
            Re: NHL 15: Three Keys to Success

            NHL 14 has done horrible in sales, so hopefully it is a wakeup call for EA to revamp the series. NHL14 has done the worst sales since NHL 07-09 days.

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            • jyoung
              Hall Of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 11132

              #21
              Re: NHL 15: Three Keys to Success

              Originally posted by Majingir
              NHL 14 has done horrible in sales, so hopefully it is a wakeup call for EA to revamp the series. NHL14 has done the worst sales since NHL 07-09 days.
              Even though unit sales are down, I would assume the franchise's overall revenue is still doing alright thanks to all the people who spend money on Ultimate Team and attribute boost packs.

              Those revenue streams didn't exist until NHL 10 (boosts) and NHL 11 (HUT).

              The fact that they've spent hardly any money on updating the presentation since NHL 08 has probably helped their bottom line, too.

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              • dxdude2004
                Pro
                • May 2010
                • 863

                #22
                EA is very, very lazy IMO. Everything is too magnetic on superstar hardcore sim. No, I don't suck. I can't help that a computer controlled player holds onto me like a magnet or somehow gets the puck off me without doing anything.
                James Naismith visited an Indiana basketball state finals game along with 15,000 screaming fans and later wrote, that while it was invented in Massachusetts, "basketball really had its origin in Indiana, which remains the center of the sport."

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                • enice128
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 92

                  #23
                  "While player faces won't be equal to that EA Sports UFC"??? If NBA 2K, FIFA & MLB can do it then why can't this dev team??? Presentation is a MUST for the new consoles as well as the broadcast duo...it's sooooo stale already! Nobody calls a game as the Doc does.....Emerick that is!!!

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                  • 13whitebread
                    ORIGINAL SIX FAN
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 575

                    #24
                    Originally posted by enice128
                    "While player faces won't be equal to that EA Sports UFC"??? If NBA 2K, FIFA & MLB can do it then why can't this dev team??? Presentation is a MUST for the new consoles as well as the broadcast duo...it's sooooo stale already! Nobody calls a game as the Doc does.....Emerick that is!!!
                    New commentators no excuses this year. I have heard that it will be Doc Emerick with Eddie Olczyk doing the color. No word yet on Paul maquire.

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                    • Wiggy
                      Staff Writer
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 82

                      #25
                      Originally posted by enice128
                      "While player faces won't be equal to that EA Sports UFC"??? If NBA 2K, FIFA & MLB can do it then why can't this dev team??? Presentation is a MUST for the new consoles as well as the broadcast duo...it's sooooo stale already! Nobody calls a game as the Doc does.....Emerick that is!!!
                      Because of the very fact that UFC is rendering two fighters, and NHL rendering 12 players... plus benches, refs, a massive crowd, etc. They can get detailed, but not as much as NBA or FIFA.

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                      • Garism
                        Rookie
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 136

                        #26
                        Re: NHL 15: Three Keys to Success

                        One question, if they do include stick on stick collision, would they it only be an option for offline? As in HUT or OTP, it'll be off or on would you think?

                        For me..

                        1) Better AI. For a next gen, yes I do expect new presentations and what not. But if the AI is still crappy, then those new presentations doesn't really make the game any better.

                        2) Replays. *** **** replays. I dont need to see a reply after every whistle. Put them all at the end of the period or at the end of the game.. especially online.

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                        • Gotmilkman24
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 152

                          #27
                          Re: NHL 15: Three Keys to Success

                          1: Better Puck Physics - This will not only keep human goalies from raging due terrible bouncing pucks, but also help possibly with their save animation along with computers knowing exactly where the bouncing puck of hell is landing exactly. 2K had the puck physics years ago. EA should be able to figure it out.

                          2: Better goalie animations - We who all have played a goalie to legend 3 know the hug post key is sometimes deadly. So deadly if you let go of the post your goaltender will go flying cross crease without the click of a button. The sloppy fish flop desperation saves help and hurt, but look terrible. (There is a lot of stuff wrong with goaltenders that I will save you from reading what you already know.)

                          3: Custom controls - I dont know how many of you would love to have custom controls, but I for one would love to have custom controls. Wouldn't it be nice to have a hitting button that is only for hitting and a shooting button only for shooting? Same goes for goaltenders. You can swing your paddle down holding L2 + R2, but if you get to deep in the crease your goaltender does the post hump animation.

                          4: Fix the fighting - We all see some pretty clean hits that either get you a penalty or a good old fashion fight. "Why do I have to fight? That was a clean hit!"

                          5: Glitch Shot - It's been around for over 4 years now. If you play club without a human goaltender you may know what I'am talking about. The famous glitch shot that makes the goalie sit down in butterfly so you can top cheese the shot. That's not only frustrating but it could be game breaking. I played a game last night where our cpu had 4 saves.

                          6: You tell me?
                          Last edited by Gotmilkman24; 03-07-2014, 12:10 PM.

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                          • Gotmilkman24
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 152

                            #28
                            Re: NHL 15: Three Keys to Success

                            Originally posted by Majingir
                            NHL 14 has done horrible in sales, so hopefully it is a wakeup call for EA to revamp the series. NHL14 has done the worst sales since NHL 07-09 days.
                            The sales will most likely big huge for them if they make the jump to the next gen consoles. I could only imagine that it will be huge. A lot of people are and have been waiting for 15. Lots of people didn't buy nhl 14 because they wanted to wait.

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                            • jonapaloma
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 405

                              #29
                              Re: NHL 15: Three Keys to Success

                              Originally posted by Wiggy
                              Because of the very fact that UFC is rendering two fighters, and NHL rendering 12 players... plus benches, refs, a massive crowd, etc. They can get detailed, but not as much as NBA or FIFA.
                              Thing is... often when they show player faces its only 1 or 2 on screen so its not so much to render really. Only thing I can imagine making it difficult is if they want to show the whole player bench. But its a lame excuse not to make realistic looking faces IMO.
                              Last edited by jonapaloma; 03-07-2014, 02:04 PM.

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                              • Wiggy
                                Staff Writer
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 82

                                #30
                                Originally posted by jonapaloma
                                Thing is... often when they show player faces its only 1 or 2 on screen so its not so much to render really. Only thing I can imagine making it difficult is if they want to show the whole player bench. But its a lame excuse not to make realistic looking faces IMO.
                                Don't misunderstand: they'll be way better this year. The faces will, and should, be an improvement. I'm just saying that UFC is hanging its hat on how detailed its fighters look, whereas NHL just can't do that when it has a way more complicated simulation in a way bigger arena with a lot more people.

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