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  • vtcha
    MVP
    • Nov 2009
    • 2181

    #1

    Contract Busts

    Well we've all heard of draft busts, but what about contract busts? Who are some of those players that never quite lived up to the hype after getting that big fat paycheck?
  • vtcha
    MVP
    • Nov 2009
    • 2181

    #2
    Re: Contract Busts

    Here is my list:
    • Hedo Turkoglu - 5 year, $52.8 million with Toronto Raptors (2009)
    • Ben Gordon - 5 year, $50 million with Detroit Pistons (2009)
    • Charlie Villanueva - 5 year, $37.7 million with Detroit Pistons (2009)
    • Elton Brand - 5 year, $79.8 million with Philadelphia 76ers (2008)
    • Travis Outlaw - 5 year, $35 million with New Jersey Nets (2010)
    • Richard Jefferson - 4 year, $39 million with San Antonio Spurs (2010)
    • Andris Biedrins - 6 year, $54 million with Golden State Warriors (2008)
    • Gerald Wallace - 4 year, $40 million with Brooklyn Nets (2012)


    Potential busts:
    • Ersan Ilyasova - 5 year, $40 million with Milwaukee Bucks (2012)
    • O.J. Mayo - 3 year, $24 million with Milwaukee Bucks (2013)
    • Larry Sanders - 4 year, $44 million with Milwaukee Bucks (2013)
    • JaVale McGee - 4 year, $44 million with Denver Nuggets (2012)
    • Kobe Bryant - 2 year, $48 million with Los Angeles Lakers (2013)
    Last edited by vtcha; 03-17-2014, 11:05 PM.

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    • Rensational14
      Pro
      • Jul 2012
      • 517

      #3
      Re: Contract Busts

      Joe Johnson waaay overpaid

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      • MattUM
        MVP
        • Aug 2013
        • 1052

        #4
        Re: Contract Busts

        Rashard Lewis - 6/$118M
        Amare - 6/$100M
        Gilbert Arenas - 6/$111M
        Joe Johnson - 6/$120M
        Derrick Rose - 5/$95M
        Jermaine O'Neal - 7/$126M
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        • BraedenG33
          Banned
          • Dec 2012
          • 999

          #5
          Re: Contract Busts

          Originally posted by MattUM
          Rashard Lewis - 6/$118M
          Amare - 6/$100M
          Gilbert Arenas - 6/$111M
          Joe Johnson - 6/$120M
          Derrick Rose - 5/$95M
          Jermaine O'Neal - 7/$126M
          I think it's a little early to call Rose a contract bust (though that may be my partially irrational belief that there is a small chance he may come back and be what he was prior to the injuries). But wow, that is a lot of money for Jermaine O'Neal and Gilbert Arenas. Keep Gettin' 'Dem Checks Gilbert!

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          • King_B_Mack
            All Star
            • Jan 2009
            • 24467

            #6
            Re: Contract Busts

            Ben Wallace and Carlos Boozer.

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            • ojandpizza
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2011
              • 29854

              #7
              Re: Contract Busts

              I still think Biedrins is arguably the worst of the past 10 years or so.. Making over 9mil right now and really shouldn't even be on any teams roster.

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              • DonWuan
                MVP
                • Oct 2010
                • 1762

                #8
                Re: Contract Busts

                Originally posted by ojandpizza
                I still think Biedrins is arguably the worst of the past 10 years or so.. Making over 9mil right now and really shouldn't even be on any teams roster.
                Yeah I always wondered what happen to him.

                How much did that Center get that played with the Mavs-Bobcats. I think it was Diop or something. Didnt he get atleast 10mil or something.

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                • MattUM
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 1052

                  #9
                  Re: Contract Busts

                  Originally posted by BraedenG33
                  I think it's a little early to call Rose a contract bust (though that may be my partially irrational belief that there is a small chance he may come back and be what he was prior to the injuries). But wow, that is a lot of money for Jermaine O'Neal and Gilbert Arenas. Keep Gettin' 'Dem Checks Gilbert!
                  After looking up Rose's contract, I can agree. I thought he was making max dollars the last 3 years; it's only been this year and last year. 2 years at max for nothing is still bad, but I won't call it a bust, yet.
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                  • vtcha
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 2181

                    #10
                    Re: Contract Busts

                    Originally posted by MattUM
                    Rashard Lewis - 6/$118M
                    Amare - 6/$100M
                    Gilbert Arenas - 6/$111M
                    Joe Johnson - 6/$120M
                    Derrick Rose - 5/$95M
                    Jermaine O'Neal - 7/$126M
                    I guess of that list, you could make an exception for O'Neal, Johnson and Lewis. After signing the contract back in 2003, O'Neal had 4 productive seasons before the injuries gave in. Similarly with Lewis, he was pretty productive during the first 3 seasons and it was expected that his number would dip since he would now be the 2nd option on offense. And Johnson was just flat out overpaid .. but I wouldn't call it a bust since he was still efficient and productive.

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                    • King_B_Mack
                      All Star
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 24467

                      #11
                      Re: Contract Busts

                      Eddy Curry - New York Knicks 6 years, $56 million

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                      • ProfessaPackMan
                        Bamma
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 63868

                        #12
                        Re: Contract Busts

                        Originally posted by ojandpizza
                        I still think Biedrins is arguably the worst of the past 10 years or so.. Making over 9mil right now and really shouldn't even be on any teams roster.
                        Travis OutLOL by far is the worst.

                        At least Beans could defend at one point. OutLOL couldn't do anything good on the court. He's a helluva thief, I'll give him that much.
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                        • MattUM
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 1052

                          #13
                          Re: Contract Busts

                          Originally posted by vtcha
                          I guess of that list, you could make an exception for O'Neal, Johnson and Lewis. After signing the contract back in 2003, O'Neal had 4 productive seasons before the injuries gave in. Similarly with Lewis, he was pretty productive during the first 3 seasons and it was expected that his number would dip since he would now be the 2nd option on offense. And Johnson was just flat out overpaid .. but I wouldn't call it a bust since he was still efficient and productive.
                          I'd call it 2 productive seasons. 2 of those "productive" years he played 44 and 51 games. I don't care if you average 20 and 10, that's just not enough games to be worth $20mil a year. He played 352 games in those 7 years when he should have played about 552 if he could stay healthy. That's a contract bust to me.

                          Rashard Lewis was decently productive but he never had $20mil a year numbers in any season. He was never the guy. I'm sorry but at $20mil you need to be damn near leading the league in something. He didn't even lead his team in something. Just massively overpaid. What do you mean by going from a #1 option to a #2? He averaged 4 less ppg than Ray Allen in Seattle to go play behind Dwight. He was never a #1, but Orlando paid him like one.

                          Yep, Joe was massively overpaid. I still think he's a baller, but makes 1.5x to 2x what his numbers would warrant him to be worth. I give him props for being real durable. I like Joe, I just think he's massively overpaid lol. But hey, keep gettin them checks.

                          All it is, is that we just have different views on what a contract bust is.
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                          • vtcha
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 2181

                            #14
                            Re: Contract Busts

                            Originally posted by MattUM
                            What do you mean by going from a #1 option to a #2? He averaged 4 less ppg than Ray Allen in Seattle to go play behind Dwight. He was never a #1, but Orlando paid him like one.
                            My bad, I thought Lewis played a season or two without Ray before signing with the Magic.

                            Originally posted by MattUM
                            All it is, is that we just have different views on what a contract bust is.
                            Yep. With a certain degree of exception to injuries, I see contract busts as paying someone who turns out to be a shell of what they were expected to be. In other words, guys who put up terrific numbers or showed some potential before they signed the dotted line then flat out stunk after.

                            Originally posted by Rensational14
                            Joe Johnson waaay overpaid
                            Add Kobe of the list as well. Who knows if he'll ever be the same again let alone be as durable or efficient as JJ. But from a business standpoint, it makes logical sense as the franchise will be able to maintain ticket sales and merchandises, etc.
                            Last edited by vtcha; 03-17-2014, 11:09 PM.

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                            • Matches Malone
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 5

                              #15
                              Re: Contract Busts

                              Jim McIlvaine: 7 Years, 33.6 million



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