MLB 14 The Show Gameplay Video - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Boston Red Sox

[HustlinOwl]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Gameplay Video - Quick Counts: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Boston Red

I'm guessing the subtract it from the total pitch count when an at bat starts, but you're right they are counting extra pitches in the first at bat.



Wait, so its that they never mention the count at all? I'm trying to watch the video again and figure out the issue.

lol Im not the best at math, but with Holliday stepping in after Peralta K at 11 pitches he steps in at 15 pitches on 3-2 count, so wouldnt this be 14?

[OUSOONERS#1]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Gameplay Video - Quick Counts: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Boston Red

Love this game and the developers of it that being said can not wait till another company produces another baseball game .. Competition is good for all parties.. I can remember where I bought three baseball games the same year cause each one had something the other didn't ...

[tnixen]

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Is anybody else watching this over and over? lol I just can't get over how good and smooth this games looks.
I can't imagine how it's going to look on the ps4.

Yep been doing the exact same thing here for the last 2 hours

shocking how much better the fielding animations look on the PS3 version.

[Profit89]

Loving the Quick Counts feature.. Absolutely love it !!

[MrOldboy]

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lol Im not the best at math, but with Holliday stepping in after Peralta K at 11 pitches he steps in at 15 pitches on 3-2 count, so wouldnt this be 14?

Ramone said they take off 2 for 3-2 counts so you're right about that. What you mentioned before with Carpenter's at bat is a bit weird as well. The pitch count should be 3 pitches based on what Ramone said, but its likely just a quirk with how they do the subtraction is what I meant. If the PC is 0, nothing to subtract from I guess. Or maybe they just don't do it on the first AB.

[Knight165]

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Ramone said they take off 2 for 3-2 counts so that makes sense. What you mentioned before with Carpenter's at bat is a bit weird. The pitch count should be 3 pitches based on what Ramone said, but its likely just a quirk with how they do the subtraction is what I meant. If the PC is 0, nothing to subtract from I guess. Or maybe they just don't do it on the first AB.

Ahh...missed that...
I just watched it again and was about to post that HO was right...something was 2 off....
I'm going to sleep!

M.K.
Knight165

[Curahee]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Gameplay Video - Quick Counts: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Boston Red

OK, so I get the idea of the altered PC in QC, but why is this important?

If a pitcher has 2 3-2 counts, why shouldnt he have 10 pitches or 12 for the 2 in play?
Why is it important not to fatigue him if he couldnt get the 0-1 out?

Or is it because QC takes away that opportunity and rather than penalize the Pitcher, you slide him a -1 pitch?

[Knight165]

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OK, so I get the idea of the altered PC in QC, but why is this important?

If a pitcher has 2 3-2 counts, why shouldnt he have 10 pitches or 12 for the 2 in play?
Why is it important not to fatigue him if he couldnt get the 0-1 out?

Or is it because QC takes away that opportunity and rather than penalize the Pitcher, you slide him a -1 pitch?

It's a concession to allowing QC's and no 0-0 counts....as you stated at the end.
Basically...you were penalizing the pitchers and mounting fatigue.

I guess it's gotta be give and take.


M.K.
Knight165

[HustlinOwl]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Gameplay Video - Quick Counts: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Boston Red

lol Im not the best at math, but with Holliday stepping in after Peralta K at 11 pitches he steps in at 15 pitches on 3-2 count, so wouldnt this be 14?

Ramone said they take off 2 for 3-2 counts so you're right about that. What you mentioned before with Carpenter's at bat is a bit weird as well. The pitch count should be 3 pitches based on what Ramone said, but its likely just a quirk with how they do the subtraction is what I meant. If the PC is 0, nothing to subtract from I guess. Or maybe they just don't do it on the first AB.

so 11 after the Peralta K and Holliday at 3-2 makes 16 pitches and minus 2 equals 14 yet it shows 15?????

[dodgerblue]

I think it's a realistic solution. Look at it this way. Most MLB at bats average about 3 pitches, but if every batter went up with a 1-1 count you would lose the ability to play a game in 30 minutes. So, by reducing the "pitch count" by 1-2 pitches per at bat for fatigue purposes, you accomplish the same goal. Realistic overall pitch counts and faster game play. Kudos once again to SCEA!

[nemesis04]

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I will be taking it at face value by just looking at the OSD to see where I am at and moving on. It is not as important in this mode.

[MrOldboy]

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so 11 after the Peralta K and Holliday at 3-2 makes 16 pitches and minus 2 equals 14 yet it shows 15?????

Exactly, that is what is going on. It doesn't line up with what Ramone said though.

[HustlinOwl]

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Exactly, that is what is going on. It doesn't line up with what Ramone said though.

exactly lol its like algebra

(ball + strikes) -1 per AB = Pitches unless (ball +strikes =5) -2 = Pitches???

(x +1) - 1 = 4 what is x

[spike83]

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Make me wonder if RR and the rest of "The Show" team had an over/under wager on how may days it would take for the community to catch on to what appeared to be a pitch count discrepancy or if they thought no one would pay too much attention...

[agentlaw13]

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A bit odd....but so are gen counts!

Exactly. Gen counts are basically simulated counts for each at bat. Whereas the total pitch count is simulated in correlation with gen counts but with slight variables to help level out the "number of pitches thrown" to give more true to life pitch counts for each pitcher.

It is kinda confusing but when you look at it from a sim standpoint, I trust SCEA has tested this plenty to get us realistic pitch counts for starting pitchers.