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  • Cycloniac
    Man, myth, legend.
    • May 2009
    • 6507

    #1

    Cycloniac's 12 Minute CPUvCPU "Real Feel" Sliders

    While many may recognize me from the NHL forum, basketball was my first love. I picked up NBA 2k14 with my PS4 around Christmas time, and have been tweaking the game since - first playing versus the AI, now for AIvsAI games.

    I think I am finally satisfied with the results, so I've decided to share them. Even for those of you who prefer playing against the CPU; I think you may get some ideas based upon the settings I'm using. Enjoy!

    NOTE: It is STILL possible to play CPUvCPU games in season and MyGM. I am sure it is for PS4 because it is the console I use, and should work similairly on XB1. PM me for instructions.

    Game Settings
    Last updated 7/31/14
    Original values in parenthethees.

    Difficulty: All-Star* (Pro)
    Game Style: Simulation (changes to Custom)
    Quarter Length: 12 Minutes
    Shooting Type: Real Player %
    Free Throw Shooting Type: Real Player %
    Game Speed: 50
    Free Throw Difficulty: 50

    Sliders
    The same values are entered for both the User and CPU, just in case the User values have any influence at all on the CPU values.

    OFFENSE
    Inside Shot Success: 20
    Close Shot Success: 35
    Mid-Range Success: 47
    3PT Success: 48* (47)
    Layup Success: 50
    Dunk In Traffic Frequency: 65 (50)
    Dunk In Traffic Success: 50
    Pass Accuracy: 40 (Turnovers)
    Alley-Oop Success: 50
    Contact Shot Success: 45 (And-1s don't happen every time now)

    DEFENSE
    Driving Contact Shot Frequency: 100* (95)
    Inside Contact Shot Frequency: 100 (Expect contact down low)
    Layup Defense Strength (Takeoff): 100* (55) - Helps limit points in the paint, especially putbacks.
    Layup Defense Strength (Release): 100* (55)
    Jump Shot Defense Strength (Gather): 100* (55)
    Jump Shot Defense Strength (Release): 100*(35)
    Help Defense Strength: 100 - Excellent spacing and ball movement
    Steal Success: 20 (Steals still occur for marquee defenders)


    ATTRIBUTES
    Quickness: 45* (70)
    Vertical: 15* (25)
    Strength: 100 (Helps with driving the lane and running the pick and roll)
    Stamina: 65 (Necessary for 12 minute quarters)
    Durability: 50
    Hustle: 100 (Players will go after loose balls)
    Ball Handling: 50 (40) - Helps with offensive flow and player movement
    Hands: 20 (Ball is loose)
    Dunking Ability: 50
    On-Ball Defense: 0* (40) - Helps prevent the CPU from overusing the Play Physical Point of Emphasis, and decreases suction.
    Speed: 55
    Stealing: 25
    Blocking: 25* (0)
    Offensive Awareness: 100 (Smart, tactical offensive sets)
    Defensive Awareness: 50 (Contrast in skill of defenders will be more evident)
    Offensive Rebounding: 30*(55)
    Defensive Rebounding: 35* (55) - The better rebounders will gobble up boards e.g. Aldridge, Randolph
    Consistency: 75* (50) - Better players will now play to their attributes more often, and are capable of taking over games.
    Fatigue Rate: 45* (35) - Works in tandem with the Stamina attribute, so same logic applies
    Injury Frequency: 15* (50)
    Injury Severity: 25* (50)

    TENDENCIES
    Take Inside Shots: 0
    Take Close Shots: 0
    Take Mid-Range Shots: 0
    Take 3PT Shots: 100
    Post Shots: 0
    Attack the Basket: 0
    Look for Post Players: 0

    Offensive attack tendencies will be driven by attributes. Players still attack the basket, shoot from mid-range, and feed the post/attack down low. 3PT Shots has to be at 100 as players will not shoot threes with it lower. Even so, it will not be a 3PT fest; 3PT attempts are still kept in realistic ranges.

    Throw Alley-Oops: 20* (10) - You will see the occasional alley-oop in the right situation
    Attempt Dunks: 40 (Players layup more often than dunk in the NBA)
    Play Passing Lanes: 40
    Attempt Putbacks: 50
    Go for On-Ball Steals: 35 (Still happens occasionally, but is not overdone)
    Contest Shots: 100 (Helps with foul calls)
    Backdoor Cuts: 50* (100)

    FOULS
    Over the Back: 55
    Charging: 100
    Blocking: 100
    Reaching: 50 (Doesn't happen very often in the NBA, at all)
    Shooting: 100
    Loose Ball: 100

    Suggested Camera Settings (NBA on TNT Inspired):
    Generic Broadcast Camera
    Zoom: 6
    Height: 5

    Last edited by Cycloniac; 07-31-2014, 08:40 PM.
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  • td7
    Rookie
    • Apr 2007
    • 487

    #2
    Re: Cycloniac's 12 Minute CPUvCPU "Real Feel" Sliders

    Just got this game yesterday, gonna give these a try, thanks for making these
    You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his *ss quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O. as a team! That's what people know us as! - Nick Saban

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    • Brooke2011
      MVP
      • Aug 2013
      • 1904

      #3
      Re: Cycloniac's 12 Minute CPUvCPU "Real Feel" Sliders

      Just tried these.....these work really well........ Great job!

      Great animations, great logic by CPU as far as offensive awareness goes.

      Good balance of fouls and turnovers


      Good job

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      • Cycloniac
        Man, myth, legend.
        • May 2009
        • 6507

        #4
        Re: Cycloniac's 12 Minute CPUvCPU "Real Feel" Sliders

        Sliders tweaked on OP, original values in brackets.

        Camera settings also added.
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        • Joey Sauce
          Dual Threat
          • Oct 2008
          • 279

          #5
          Re: Cycloniac's 12 Minute CPUvCPU "Real Feel" Sliders

          I am a huge CPU vs CPU guy and seeing this post had me wanting to hug you. I thought I was alone in this world

          I too have been tweaking cpu vs cpu games since November and just recently finally gave up due to never being able to fix "points in the paint" among other issues....I am going to try these later because I am seeing things I never thought of

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          • Joey Sauce
            Dual Threat
            • Oct 2008
            • 279

            #6
            Re: Cycloniac's 12 Minute CPUvCPU "Real Feel" Sliders

            Just watched Bulls vs Bobcats with these sliders and the only things that stood out were:

            -Not enough 3pt attempts
            -Too many free throws
            -Not one dunk

            other than that, phenominal

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            • Cycloniac
              Man, myth, legend.
              • May 2009
              • 6507

              #7
              Re: Cycloniac's 12 Minute CPUvCPU "Real Feel" Sliders

              Originally posted by Joey Sauce
              Just watched Bulls vs Bobcats with these sliders and the only things that stood out were:

              -Not enough 3pt attempts
              -Too many free throws
              -Not one dunk

              other than that, phenominal
              3pt attempts vary by team. I know the Bulls don't shoot many.

              Glad you're enjoying them though.
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              • Cycloniac
                Man, myth, legend.
                • May 2009
                • 6507

                #8
                Re: Cycloniac's 12 Minute CPUvCPU "Real Feel" Sliders

                Dallas-San Antonio, Game 1
                -Duncan got into foul trouble early
                -Game went into OT

                Slider changes used:
                -Consistency 100
                -Speed 40
                -Backdoor Cuts 50
                -Offensive Rebounding 35
                -Defensive Rebounding 40
                -Vertical 15

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                • kingdevin
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 1110

                  #9
                  Re: Cycloniac's 12 Minute CPUvCPU "Real Feel" Sliders

                  Can u video some highlights. Stats look great but id like to see the on court flow

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                  • Cycloniac
                    Man, myth, legend.
                    • May 2009
                    • 6507

                    #10
                    Re: Cycloniac's 12 Minute CPUvCPU "Real Feel" Sliders

                    Originally posted by kingdevin
                    Can u video some highlights. Stats look great but id like to see the on court flow


                    EDIT: Add me, and you should be able to see that video. Half a quarter.
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                    • kingdevin
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 1110

                      #11
                      Re: Cycloniac's 12 Minute CPUvCPU "Real Feel" Sliders

                      Link is broken. I see on fb a group named cycloniacs. Is that you?

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                      • Cycloniac
                        Man, myth, legend.
                        • May 2009
                        • 6507

                        #12
                        Re: Cycloniac's 12 Minute CPUvCPU "Real Feel" Sliders

                        Originally posted by kingdevin
                        Link is broken. I see on fb a group named cycloniacs. Is that you?
                        It isn't broken. You have to add me to see it.

                        Log into Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family, and people you know.
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                        • Joey Sauce
                          Dual Threat
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 279

                          #13
                          Re: Cycloniac's 12 Minute CPUvCPU "Real Feel" Sliders

                          Slider changes used:
                          -Consistency 100
                          -Speed 40
                          -Backdoor Cuts 50
                          -Offensive Rebounding 35
                          -Defensive Rebounding 40
                          -Vertical 15
                          So are these changes official to your sliders?

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                          • Cycloniac
                            Man, myth, legend.
                            • May 2009
                            • 6507

                            #14
                            Re: Cycloniac's 12 Minute CPUvCPU "Real Feel" Sliders

                            Originally posted by Joey Sauce
                            Slider changes used:
                            -Consistency 100
                            -Speed 40
                            -Backdoor Cuts 50
                            -Offensive Rebounding 35
                            -Defensive Rebounding 40
                            -Vertical 15
                            So are these changes official to your sliders?
                            Yes, except I changged offensive rebounding to 30, and defensive rebounding to 35.

                            I'll update the OP.

                            I'm still not getting enough 3PT attempts with certain teams though e.g. Brooklyn, Chicago, Toronto.

                            What I like about the tendencies as they are, in addition to offensive awareness at 100, is that players run set plays much more often. Guards drive or shoot off of picks, even drive and kick sometimes. It is clear that offenses look for the best possible shot and I love that they pass the ball around to create space. The issue lies within the Points of Emphasis that the CPU coaches set; they change them to Get to the Basket too often.

                            I may reduce strength to 75, so that points in the paint numbers are reduced slightly, and there are a few more FT attempts, but that wouldn't necesserily cause teams to shoot more threes.
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                            • kingdevin
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 1110

                              #15
                              Re: Cycloniac's 12 Minute CPUvCPU "Real Feel" Sliders

                              So apparently I've added u but the link to video does not work. It says content unavailable...

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