NBA 2K: Should Zone Defense Be Removed?

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  • jaateloauto
    Pro
    • Sep 2009
    • 743

    #16
    Re: NBA 2K: Should Zone Defense Be Removed?

    Originally posted by tril
    in answer to this. there was version of NBA2k where a user would be penalized, fatigue wise, for spamming the turbo button.
    If I remember correctly folks complained about the over-effectiveness of this. I dont know if 2k toned this feature down or removed it all together.
    as far s making unrealistic 3's, again 2k at one point made the shooting more difficult and realistic, folks complained, and again they listened, and made shooting a bit easier.

    Other than that I completely disagree with the comment about lack of game-play authenticity. not making excuses for 2k, but as far as exploits, every game has exploits, and humans will always use those exploits to their advantage. . There has never been one game created without a user figuring exploits.

    back to the topic-
    Keep the zone in the game, its part of NBA basketball- it just needs to be tweaked to resemble an NBA zone and not a college zone
    I don't understand why 2K simply split online to two. One category would be called arcade/casual and it would be what the gameplay is now with turbo being king, bad passes never getting penalized and so on. Then the other category would be full on simulation as good as 2K can make it. Think 2K11 without spin dunks and eurosteps being op.
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    • Gramps91
      MVP
      • Sep 2010
      • 2116

      #17
      Why should they remove a feature unless they have to. It's clear people still use it, so I say keep it.
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      • RipCityAndy
        Rookie
        • Nov 2012
        • 249

        #18
        Disclaimer - I didn't buy 2k14 this year. I was so fed up with 2k13 I decided to take a year off.

        In 2k13 the 1-3-1 was killing me online. I found some great zone breaking plays that worked consistently. I had a go-to play for attacking each zone type that practically guaranteed an open shot or layup. I think the problem with zone defense is that most (not all) gamers don't take the time to find a good strategy for attacking a zone. It might be helpful if 2k put in some zone attacking tutorials or easy to identify zone attacking plays for the casual gamer.

        I also agree with what a lot of you regarding fatigue. That has been an issue for a few years now. No excuse for not fixing it.

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        • iki319
          Rookie
          • Oct 2010
          • 39

          #19
          Dont know if im the only one who noticed but why are the all star jerseys sleeveless in the main photo?

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          • TheRealHST
            Banned
            • Jan 2011
            • 1755

            #20
            As long as its legal in the REAL NBA, No it doesnt make sense to remove it. Because a bunch of causals fans cant beat a zone doesnt mean, hey lets remove it for them. The zone can be beat. Gamers are lazy as hell

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            • RipCityAndy
              Rookie
              • Nov 2012
              • 249

              #21
              Originally posted by TheRealHST
              As long as its legal in the REAL NBA, No it doesnt make sense to remove it. Because a bunch of causals fans cant beat a zone doesnt mean, hey lets remove it for them. The zone can be beat. Gamers are lazy as hell
              YES!! The funny part is when you can consistently beat the other player's zone a lot of them are too lazy to switch out of the zone. Easy corner threes all game.

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              • HowDareI
                MVP
                • Jan 2012
                • 1900

                #22
                Re: NBA 2K: Should Zone Defense Be Removed?

                Originally posted by TheRealHST
                As long as its legal in the REAL NBA, No it doesnt make sense to remove it. Because a bunch of causals fans cant beat a zone doesnt mean, hey lets remove it for them. The zone can be beat. Gamers are lazy as hell
                I'd say it's the complete opposite actually.

                Casual gamers go online to find cheesy strategies to win: pick zone d, play offball. Turbo to the rim with posterizer, shoot 40 3's a game, etc.

                Zones are still way too op. Zone is all about recovery speed and picking up the man in your zone, both of which are faster in this game then swinging the ball to an open man...which is how to break a zone.

                If you can't break a zone by playing real basketball half the time, you're just cheesing back to beat the cheese. That's just as bad.

                If they don't address how fast defenders are with their recovery's, than they need to take zone out of online at least.
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                • VDusen04
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 13034

                  #23
                  Re: NBA 2K: Should Zone Defense Be Removed?

                  Originally posted by TheRealHST
                  As long as its legal in the REAL NBA, No it doesnt make sense to remove it. Because a bunch of causals fans cant beat a zone doesnt mean, hey lets remove it for them. The zone can be beat. Gamers are lazy as hell
                  I think the question a lot of gamers may have is whether the 2K zone is regularly and consistently beatable by employing proper and amply available NBA strategies. Or, is beating a zone in NBA 2K more about "gaming the game", i.e. discovering a video game way of exploiting something people are trying to use and exploit themselves?

                  For instance, and I ask this sincerely because I do not own NBA 2K14, does this year's 2K offer various effective offensive sets designed specifically to counter any zone that may be employed? Moreover, does a zone defense in 2K have the same shortfalls we'd tend to see if it were used in a similar manner in real life (defenders slow to recover, fatigued if just running about with their heads cut off, offensive intelligence putting themselves in correct positions, passes with enough snap, and a realistic success-to-failure ratio of steal attempts)?

                  Admittedly, some of the few times I've hopped online in previous 2K's, there's been instances where I've been able to handily defeat gamers abusing zone defenses, but none of it - not their strategies and not my solutions - felt like real, strategic basketball. And to be clear, that is not a blanket statement on all gamers who use zone defenses. Rather, again, I think some folks just believe the zones, in their current state, are open to being used and abused, while the realistic tools to dismantle and defeat an opponent's scrambling double teams, spamming of the steal button, and speed recovering, are limited.
                  Last edited by VDusen04; 04-30-2014, 02:21 PM.

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                  • STLRams
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 2847

                    #24
                    Re: NBA 2K: Should Zone Defense Be Removed?

                    Wouldn't bother me at all if 2K removed zone defense....

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                    • Law504
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 400

                      #25
                      Re: NBA 2K: Should Zone Defense Be Removed?

                      its sad to see online people abuse it, cause it just shows us that they dont know what theyre doing, lol, we all know how to break zone easy and get a open jumper why do everyone keep doing it. Yes they should take it out playing man to man will make everyone a better player if zone are not in the game.

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                      • Carmelo Durant
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 7

                        #26
                        Re: NBA 2K: Should Zone Defense Be Removed?

                        Even after toning them down from 2K13 the zones are still overpowered.

                        But you can mostly beat them if you run a Horns play in your playbook. My personal favorite is the Horns DBL from the Lakers playbook.

                        I was playing some clown who used it yesterday. Every trip down the court I ran the play and killed him from three. Had him scrambling from corner to corner trying to defend it.

                        Ironically though he never left the zone! His "adjustment" was to start throwing double teams at me as soon as I crossed the court and played the passing lanes.

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                        • Greatness
                          Rookie
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 26

                          #27
                          Yes, zone defense should be removed from NBA 2k.

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                          • cmehustle
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 131

                            #28
                            1-3-1 zone in 2k wins by clogging the paint and reacting phonomenly to cross court passes with deflections or blocking corner shots. Also it prevents offensive boards by clogging the paint and prevents most down low or in the paint shots. In real life, downsides of the 1-3-1 are offensive rebounds, corner threes, and most of all big men down low due to the 1 defender. So in 2k things work exactly the opposite of real life.

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                            • RealMogreen28
                              Just started!
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 4

                              #29
                              Me personally I hate using zone defense, I only use it when I have too, But it's the only defense against 2k's constant offensive exploits. Only chance of stopping the top 40 players rated 85 or higher from just blatantly driving to the rack from the foul line dunking over my center. I'm a nuggets fan so I mainly use denver, so I have guys like Kd,Bron,Iggy, Rudy Gay, Westbrook etc. begin their 2-step drive and just dunk over Javale Mcgee and Mozgov 7/10% of the time -__-. Or the continual crossover back and forth until I eventually make I make a mistake or 2k's stupid tripping animation occurs and you get an easy shot(most likely a 3). Until they can fix those issues and a few others the zone in nba 2k has to stay no matter what.


                              Honestly I think Sports games should have a 2 year development cycle with 4 title updates with minor updates during the 2 years. Paying $60 for games with a few minimal improvements every year is really starting to suck.

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                              • JerzeyReign
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 4847

                                #30
                                Re: NBA 2K: Should Zone Defense Be Removed?

                                Removing zone isn't fixing the underlying issues of why its so strong. Fixing things like the slow passing, passing trajectories, passing animations and defender's hustle, defender's reaction time and defender's awareness should be looked into.

                                Removing zone - a very realistic scheme THAT EVERY team runs - is like putting a band aid on a gunshot wound.
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