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  • CelticHeart
    Banned
    • Oct 2009
    • 277

    #1

    Revolution Slider challenging and "fixing" penalties and bounce issues

    This set will fix the two major issue of nhl 14.

    I will say you that some aspect of gameplay are beta testing, but finally yuo will see CPU use more frequently stick and take penalties, the variety of penalties calls are the most important improvement, elbowing, interference, high stick, slashing, and hooking, tripping too are called pretty good. Also the second issue goes the jumping jack puck on the dump goes off with this slider.

    Other than what I see with this set is that all part of game are improved, seems to me that there is also animation in gameplay that I have never seen before, goalies too.

    I have makes hours and hours of testing, it works.

    Lets go:

    some aspect you can customize but some must be forced to this values;

    There is four level of customize for every slider; Very important( must be that if you want fix), Important ( could be changed but result is not grantee), not important/ customize ( you can customize) and test ( you can test and I testing),

    This set is tested in only Be A GM offline and play now, I dont know how works in other modes.

    Level: Superstar (Very Important)
    Game style: Hardcore (Very Important)
    Period: 12 minutes (Important)
    Dinamic ratings: OFF (not important)


    General
    Tuner set version 1.03 (Very Important) Seems to me Latest change something but still testing
    Game speed 6* Key slider ( Very Important) only at this value CPU AI play smart and poke checks and use sticks at will be do. EA friends reveal
    that.

    Penalties Max Very important
    Post whistle rules Authentic important / test
    Penalty time scaling 4 custom in order of your game period

    Attribute effects 3 (Important)
    Fatigue effect - Human 4 customize/test
    Fatigue effect - CPU 4 customize/test
    Fatigue recovery - Human 1 customize/
    Fatigue recovery - CPU 1 customize/test
    Injury occurence - Human 3 not important/customize
    Injury occurence - CPU 3 not important/customize
    Puck control - Human 1 important/test
    Puck control - CPU 1 important/test
    Player acceleration - Human 0 important / customize
    Player acceleration - CPU 0 important / customize
    Broken stick frequency 3 customize

    AI
    Created plays On (customize)
    AI learning 0 customize consider that at game speed 6 cpu play so smart
    CPU difficulty adjustment 0 customize as over
    CPU strategy adjustment 3 customize
    Human strategy adjustment 0 customize
    CPU faceoff difficulty 4 customize
    Fight difficulty 3 customize
    CPU penalties Maxed important
    CPU teammate penalties 4 important


    Passing
    Pass assist 3-6 Not important customize
    Manual passing Off customize
    Pass speed 2 at game speed all part of game are very improved in general speed
    Saucer pass speed 2

    Pass accuracy - Human 6 customize
    Pass accuracy - CPU 0 customize
    Pass reception ease - Human 1 important/ customize
    Pass reception ease - CPU 0 important / customize
    Pass interceptions - Human 6 customize
    Pass interceptions - CPU 0 customize

    The pass slider are totally customizable, just put as you level consider that cpu have and advantage in pass department and at game speed 6 the challenging of the CPU is on the top. But if you good in passing the cpu takes penalties.

    Shooting
    Shot accuracy - Human 0 custom
    Shot accuracy - CPU 0 custom
    Shot power - Human 1
    Shot power - CPU 0
    Slap shot accuracy - Human 0 custom
    Slap shot accuracy - CPU 0 custom
    Slap shot power - Human 1 custom
    Slap shot power - CPU 0
    One timer accuracy - Human 1 custom
    One timer accuracy - CPU 1 custom

    as for passing, at game speed 6 shooting is on the fire, must be tuned in all values.

    Checking
    Hitting assistance 3 customize
    Agression - Human 4 very important
    Agression - CPU 4 very important
    Hitting power - Human 1 very important
    Hitting power - CPU 1 very important finally you have realistic hit no nhl hitz but still big hits and penalties as boarding, interference, charging and elbowing too

    Stick lift effectiveness - Human 4 very important
    Stick lift effectiveness - CPU 4 very important
    Poke effectiveness - Human 3 very important
    Poke effectiveness - CPU 3 very important

    Goalies
    Goalie passing 0
    Goalie cover puck frequency Max
    Goalie screen effect - Human 5
    Goalie screen effect - CPU 5
    Goalie reaction speed - Human 6
    Goalie reaction speed - CPU 0

    Goalies at game speed 6 are so good, must be tuned down, you still scoring in various way but you see pretty fantastic saves

    that all try and testing if you want, I spend tons of hours, and headcache to find a way to see penalties called realistic, finally I think found the way.
    Last edited by CelticHeart; 06-13-2014, 02:42 PM.
  • SuperGoalies
    MVP
    • Apr 2013
    • 3284

    #2
    Re: Revolution Slider challenging and "fixing" penalties and bounce issues

    good job big boy *cheers* , that puck bouncing long time ago back between roster update: 7 to 10 & beyond in LTL for (me at least) was strange puck control: human: 1 / CPU: 1 & pass reception ease: human: 1 / CPU: 1, it stopt the puck bouncing, I tried to post about it ((people didn't like it)), I know there are weird secret's in slider section that I cannot explain.


    am gonna give you a thumps up

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    • PensDynasty87
      Pro
      • Apr 2013
      • 508

      #3
      Re: Revolution Slider challenging and "fixing" penalties and bounce issues

      Now when you say hardcore for game style are you meaning hardcore simulation?

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      • Felixeur
        Rookie
        • Apr 2013
        • 186

        #4
        Re: Revolution Slider challenging and "fixing" penalties and bounce issues

        Hmm...sounds cool! Ill go test it right now with my NHL 14 20 minute period settings.
        NHL 15 Revamped Xbox 360 Editor
        http://www.operationsports.com/forum...15-roster.html

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        • CelticHeart
          Banned
          • Oct 2009
          • 277

          #5
          Re: Revolution Slider challenging and "fixing" penalties and bounce issues

          @super thanks for your up!

          @pens, sorry yes with hardcore I mean hardcore simulation, then changing slider become custom...

          @felixeur I made some test for having 20min slider too, my personal tips is put puck control at 6/6 and you have right amount of shots and faceoffs, you havent risk of scoring-fest because at game speed 6 the goalies are great...

          thanks guys your feedback are very important!

          cheers

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          • mikeymayhem
            Pro
            • Jan 2008
            • 618

            #6
            Re: Revolution Slider challenging and "fixing" penalties and bounce issues

            Hey tried two games they where fun but really high scoring and also i only got to pps combined.

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            • CelticHeart
              Banned
              • Oct 2009
              • 277

              #7
              Re: Revolution Slider challenging and "fixing" penalties and bounce issues

              @mikeymayhem

              thanks for your test, with my shooting set at 12min sliders, I dont see to much scoring, but could be personal, raise goalies reaction and with game speed 6 they came very unstoppable.

              about penalties two games are not so much consider that over my at least 100 games test,

              I see some games with also only 2pp for each team(as happens also in the nhl)

              , but generally the penalties are calling quite better, and more realistic, no cheap as only boarding or charging on late hits, but good interference call, boarding and charging when it is it, and stick penalties where in at other game speed there isn't, if you want try other games and you will see that I speak right about that.

              enjoy

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              • PensDynasty87
                Pro
                • Apr 2013
                • 508

                #8
                Re: Revolution Slider challenging and "fixing" penalties and bounce issues

                Will these work on pro difficulty? Also what do u mean by ea friends revealed the CPU plays better with game speed at 6?
                Last edited by PensDynasty87; 05-08-2014, 12:36 AM.

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                • CelticHeart
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 277

                  #9
                  Re: Revolution Slider challenging and "fixing" penalties and bounce issues

                  Originally posted by PensDynasty87
                  Will these work on pro difficulty? Also what do u mean by ea friends revealed the CPU plays better with game speed at 6?
                  Actually not, on pro difficulty CPU's seems had a limited repertoire of moves this cause lacks of penalties and also goals variety, situasions like turnaways and takeaways.....basically this is also the concept about game speed at 6, on superstars at game speed 6 CPU plays on the top and with all the moves planned, and this caused obiuvsly more general intensity in all part of game.

                  I cant say much but simply a contact in the EA reveal this concept.

                  hope this helps...

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                  • PensDynasty87
                    Pro
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 508

                    #10
                    Re: Revolution Slider challenging and "fixing" penalties and bounce issues

                    IMO the CPU cheats and has the ice tilted in it's favor when the difficulty is on anything higher than pro. You get the late comeback b.s

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                    • CelticHeart
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 277

                      #11
                      Re: Revolution Slider challenging and "fixing" penalties and bounce issues

                      I know what you say, but try to put AI learning and CPU difficulty at 0, and cpu strategy at 2, try this mix with game speed at 6 on superstar...this provide to having good CPU challenging and lowering at minimum the cheat comeback possibility.

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                      • PensDynasty87
                        Pro
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 508

                        #12
                        Re: Revolution Slider challenging and "fixing" penalties and bounce issues

                        Jw why you have the goalie sliders the way you do and the shot power and slap shot power? Shot power at 2 and slap shot at 1 seems a lil low plus should slapshot power be higher than normal shot power? N don't really understand having goalie screen effect at 5 and reaction at 2 shouldn't it be the other way around? Just my opinion

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                        • CelticHeart
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 277

                          #13
                          Re: Revolution Slider challenging and "fixing" penalties and bounce issues

                          Originally posted by PensDynasty87
                          Jw why you have the goalie sliders the way you do and the shot power and slap shot power? Shot power at 2 and slap shot at 1 seems a lil low plus should slapshot power be higher than normal shot power? N don't really understand having goalie screen effect at 5 and reaction at 2 shouldn't it be the other way around? Just my opinion
                          You are right, but the purpose of my slider was fixing the penalties, and making the AI play on the top, about shot slider i put custom of every values, I forgot to put same custom on goalies, I think shot and goalies are questionable personal...and there isn't such issue to find your way.

                          For example in my be a gm actually have this, playing on superstar at game speed 6 at acceleration at 0, play on auto shooting, and no goalie mode...

                          For me it is evident that CPU have a big advantage on goalie, shot accuracy and shot power...(the cause of slap shot power lower than shot power is that in my opinion general slap shot power CPU in particular is overpow) and also that at game speed 6 all seems much strong that at lower speed.
                          Shot accuracy : 2/0
                          Shot Power : 1/1
                          Slap shot acc: 0/0
                          Slap shot pow: 1/0
                          One timer acc: 2/1

                          Goalies:

                          Goalie pass: 0
                          Goalie cover puck frequ : 6
                          Screen eff: 3/5
                          Reaction speed: 6/1

                          hope it helps!
                          Last edited by CelticHeart; 05-12-2014, 03:38 AM.

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                          • PensDynasty87
                            Pro
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 508

                            #14
                            Re: Revolution Slider challenging and "fixing" penalties and bounce issues

                            I'm def seeing the AI playing smarter and it's def challenging but the penalties are still not there as much as they should be plus I'm out shooting my opponent by a wide margin everytime. I think my last game I outshot Washington 19 to 7 in the 1st period and I think end game was 44 to 20.Using the Pens by the way

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                            • CelticHeart
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 277

                              #15
                              Re: Revolution Slider challenging and "fixing" penalties and bounce issues

                              Originally posted by PensDynasty87
                              I'm def seeing the AI playing smarter and it's def challenging but the penalties are still not there as much as they should be plus I'm out shooting my opponent by a wide margin everytime. I think my last game I outshot Washington 19 to 7 in the 1st period and I think end game was 44 to 20.Using the Pens by the way
                              you use manual line change and manual strategy? only a question, because play on it, games are more deep and more difficult,
                              otherwise, you can raise some slide to help cpu challenge, I think best way is touching one of this slider in order of where you see that CPU lacks, acceleration / puck control / poke checking you can raise only one of that or all.

                              I not mention AI learning and CPU difficulty and CPU strategy because nasty comebacks, moving others you can makes CPU better without fall in cheating.

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