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  • Steven78
    Banned
    • Apr 2013
    • 7241

    #16
    Re: Sound Off: KD's MVP, is he the best in basketball?

    Lebron is better and more valuable.

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    • BringTheHeat
      MVP
      • Jan 2012
      • 2264

      #17
      Re: Sound Off: KD's MVP, is he the best in basketball?

      Voter fatigue played a role in this one. KD played great and for sure carried the Thunder in WB's absence...however even on a "down year" for LeBron he still put up highly efficient numbers that are rarely seen. When you compare the Thunder to the Heart..Sure we have 2 Hall of Famers and another fringe Hall of Famer, but LeBron just impacts and controls each and every game in multiple ways. IMO he should probably be on his 6th straight if it truly meant most valuable.
      "To the last minute, to the last second, to the last man, we fight"

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      • mlp111
        MVP
        • Jul 2010
        • 1293

        #18
        Re: Sound Off: KD's MVP, is he the best in basketball?

        Pound for pound, Lebron is the best player in the NBA period..... Fundamentally, Kevin durant is the best player in NBA period.. Just my opinion.

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        • mlp111
          MVP
          • Jul 2010
          • 1293

          #19
          Re: Sound Off: KD's MVP, is he the best in basketball?

          Originally posted by Sycecg
          ya lebron is better IMO. durant is really just a sniper shooter. the problem is, he tends to fold under pressure. like his playoffs so far, while having some good games not all of them have been that stellar, heck he had a game against grizzlies where he only put up 15 points.
          I wouldnt say KD is folding in playoffs... More like his team isnt showing up. thunder need a solid center. If you say KD folded, then you must say the same about lebron when he was on Cavs, hands down MVP during regular season, but in playoffs.. folded as well

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          • MattUM
            MVP
            • Aug 2013
            • 1052

            #20
            Re: Sound Off: KD's MVP, is he the best in basketball?

            Originally posted by mlp111
            I wouldnt say KD is folding in playoffs... More like his team isnt showing up. thunder need a solid center. If you say KD folded, then you must say the same about lebron when he was on Cavs, hands down MVP during regular season, but in playoffs.. folded as well
            How can you mention the Cavs in the same sentence as the Thunder who also have Westbrook, Ibaka, a solid bench, and lots of veterans?

            NBA finals years:

            2011-2012 Thunder starting 5:
            Russell Westbrook
            James Harden
            Kevin Durant
            Serge Ibaka
            Kendrick Perkins

            2006-2007 Cavs starting 5:
            Larry Hughes
            Sasha Pavlovic
            Lebron James
            Drew Gooden
            Zydrunas Ilgauskas
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            • ClutchCity
              Pro
              • Dec 2008
              • 630

              #21
              Re: Sound Off: KD's MVP, is he the best in basketball?

              Originally posted by MattUM
              How can you mention the Cavs in the same sentence as the Thunder who also have Westbrook, Ibaka, a solid bench, and lots of veterans?

              NBA finals years:

              2011-2012 Thunder starting 5:
              Russell Westbrook
              James Harden
              Kevin Durant
              Serge Ibaka
              Kendrick Perkins

              2006-2007 Cavs starting 5:
              Larry Hughes
              Sasha Pavlovic
              Lebron James
              Drew Gooden
              Zydrunas Ilgauskas
              Ibaka wasn't as good as he was right now. James Harden did not start. Neither did Sasha Pattycake. Thought it was Daniel Gibson or Eric Snow. I like the comparison, and yes Thunder had a better team than 06-07 Cavs. But they also played against a team that had no excuse for not winning a championship that time. IMO.

              Btw Cavs had veterans on that team also, Big Z Donyell Marshell, Eric Snow, David Wesley. Even had talent that was developing Varejo and Shannon Brown who didn't get too see much time on the floor. I see nothings changed here with Durant not getting the credit he deserves by some of you guys.
              Last edited by ClutchCity; 05-12-2014, 09:45 AM.

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              • MattUM
                MVP
                • Aug 2013
                • 1052

                #22
                Re: Sound Off: KD's MVP, is he the best in basketball?

                Originally posted by ClutchCity
                Ibaka wasn't as good as he was right now. James Harden did not start. Neither did Sasha Pattycake. Thought it was Daniel Gibson or Eric Snow. I like the comparison, and yes Thunder had a better team than 06-07 Cavs. But they also played against a team that had no excuse for not winning a championship that time. IMO.

                Btw Cavs had veterans on that team also, Big Z Donyell Marshell, Eric Snow, David Wesley. Even had talent that was developing Varejo and Shannon Brown who didn't get too see much time on the floor. I see nothings changed here with Durant not getting the credit he deserves by some of you guys.
                The stats tell a different story.



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                • Streaky McFloorburn
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 283

                  #23
                  Re: Sound Off: KD's MVP, is he the best in basketball?

                  This isn't meant as an argument ender, but statistically speaking; KD was clearly the most valuable player in the NBA during the 2013-14 season. I still believe LeBron is the better all-around player in terms of ability though.

                  <table class="no_highlight stats_table wide_table"><tbody><tr><td class="stw align_center valign_top">Win Shares
                  <table class="no_highlight wide_table" data-mobile-header="Win Shares"> <tbody><tr class="bold_text"> <td class="align_right">1.</td> <td class="align_left">Kevin Durant-OKC</td> <td class="align_right">19.2</td> </tr> <tr class=""> <td class="align_right">2.</td> <td class="align_left">LeBron James-MIA</td> <td class="align_right">15.9</td> </tr> <tr class=""> <td class="align_right">3.</td> <td class="align_left">Kevin Love-MIN</td> <td class="align_right">14.3</td> </tr> <tr class=""> <td class="align_right">4.</td> <td class="align_left">Stephen Curry-GSW</td> <td class="align_right">13.4</td> </tr> <tr class=""> <td class="align_right">5.</td> <td class="align_left">James Harden-HOU</td> <td class="align_right">12.8</td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> <td class="stw align_center valign_top"> Win Shares Per 48 Minutes
                  <table class="no_highlight wide_table" data-mobile-header="Win Shares Per 48 Minutes"> <tbody><tr class="bold_text"> <td class="align_right">1.</td> <td class="align_left">Kevin Durant-OKC</td> <td class="align_right">.295</td> </tr> <tr class=""> <td class="align_right">2.</td> <td class="align_left">Chris Paul-LAC</td> <td class="align_right">.270</td> </tr> <tr class=""> <td class="align_right">3.</td> <td class="align_left">LeBron James-MIA</td> <td class="align_right">.264</td> </tr> <tr class=""> <td class="align_right">4.</td> <td class="align_left">Kevin Love-MIN</td> <td class="align_right">.245</td> </tr> <tr class=""> <td class="align_right">5.</td> <td class="align_left">Stephen Curry-GSW</td> <td class="align_right">.225</td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> <td>





                  </td></tr></tbody></table>Player Efficiency Rating
                  <table class="no_highlight wide_table" data-mobile-header="Player Efficiency Rating"><tbody><tr class="bold_text"> <td class="align_right">1.</td> <td class="align_left">Kevin Durant-OKC</td> <td class="align_right">29.8</td> </tr> <tr class=""> <td class="align_right">2.</td> <td class="align_left">LeBron James-MIA</td> <td class="align_right">29.3</td> </tr> <tr class=""> <td class="align_right">3.</td> <td class="align_left">Kevin Love-MIN</td> <td class="align_right">26.9</td> </tr> <tr class=""> <td class="align_right">4.</td> <td class="align_left">Anthony Davis-NOP</td> <td class="align_right">26.5</td> </tr> <tr class=""> <td class="align_right">5.</td> <td class="align_left">DeMarcus Cousins-SAC</td> <td class="align_right">26.1</td></tr></tbody></table>
                  "The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism, by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw

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                  • ClutchCity
                    Pro
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 630

                    #24
                    Re: Sound Off: KD's MVP, is he the best in basketball?

                    What does stats have to do with which team was better? No doubt OKC had a better team. I just don't understand why KD can't get his credit. He was clearly the better player this year overall.

                    Lebron's first shot at a title basically ended up like Durants. That's all I get out of it.

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                    • MattUM
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 1052

                      #25
                      Re: Sound Off: KD's MVP, is he the best in basketball?

                      Originally posted by ClutchCity
                      What does stats have to do with which team was better? No doubt OKC had a better team. I just don't understand why KD can't get his credit. He was clearly the better player this year overall.

                      Lebron's first shot at a title basically ended up like Durants. That's all I get out of it.
                      I don't think Durant deserves it any more than Lebron, but I'm okay with him winning. You can make a case for both, unlike when Bron got robbed by Rose.
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                      • The 24th Letter
                        ERA
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 39438

                        #26
                        Re: Sound Off: KD's MVP, is he the best in basketball?

                        Originally posted by MattUM
                        I don't think Durant deserves it any more than Lebron, but I'm okay with him winning. You can make a case for both, unlike when Bron got robbed by Rose.

                        Don't do it Bulls fans

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                        • ProfessaPackMan
                          Bamma
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 63869

                          #27
                          Re: Sound Off: KD's MVP, is he the best in basketball?

                          ***insert popcorn gif here***
                          #RespectTheCulture

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                          • MattUM
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 1052

                            #28
                            Re: Sound Off: KD's MVP, is he the best in basketball?

                            Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                            Don't do it Bulls fans
                            Oh, no, I would love to hear the argument for Rose.

                            People were still salty after The Decision and robbed Bron.
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                            • cam21224
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 2037

                              #29
                              Re: Sound Off: KD's MVP, is he the best in basketball?

                              Just search the forums it's been beat to death brought back to life and done all over again numerous times.
                              Horseshoes & HollyWood

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                              • ClutchCity
                                Pro
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 630

                                #30
                                Re: Sound Off: KD's MVP, is he the best in basketball?

                                Originally posted by MattUM
                                I don't think Durant deserves it any more than Lebron, but I'm okay with him winning. You can make a case for both, unlike when Bron got robbed by Rose.
                                You shouldn't post your opinion about Durant winning MVP then. It was clear that Durant was better in the terms of numbers and performance this year most of it happened while Westbrook was injured. That doesn't make Durant the better player overall career wise. He just had one hell of a year therefore he is named. MVP, but since Durant never gets his credit from most of you on this forum its like oh well he got lucky.

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