Franchise Player Development/Movement

[kooch66]

How do players in the farm system progress? Is it strictly based on the training routines you set up or do they improve throughout the year? Do they improve in the off season? Does playing time matter? For example, let's say I have two really good 2B prospects. Should one start in AA so he can play more even though by rating/potential he should be in AAA or does playing time not matter?

And any all tips regarding farm system player development and movement would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

[CuseGirl]

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Just make sure you personally manage the training of your players because sometimes the CPU will have them doing things you don't want, like having your star first baseman work on speed when it makes more sense for him to work on plate discipline.

And honestly, try to stay away from players who aren't A's or B's altogether. It seems like C's and lower don't develop at all, no matter how much training you give them.

[ggsimmonds]

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Just make sure you personally manage the training of your players because sometimes the CPU will have them doing things you don't want, like having your star first baseman work on speed when it makes more sense for him to work on plate discipline.

And honestly, try to stay away from players who aren't A's or B's altogether. It seems like C's and lower don't develop at all, no matter how much training you give them.

Agreed with the advice on training but I strongly disagree on avoiding C's and lower.

For one thing you cannot actually avoid them as there are not enough Bs and As to fill up your farm system. Secondly Cs can be contributors. Also if they get hot their potential can increase.

For the OP's question, progression is determined by 4 things:
potential, age, performance, and training. Even if you train Joe Baseball in contact, his other attributes will increase as well. Only his contact ratings will increase at a faster rate.

Playing time does matter, so if you got a 19yr old A potential guy rated low try to avoid putting him in A baseball. In your example I would have one in either AA or if possible move one to SS. It is more accurate to say performance matters instead of playing time though.

Best advice I could give is to periodically check up on your prospects. If a guy with promise struggles heavily and for an extended period of time in AAA consider dropping him to AA. Also try to avoid calling guys up if they would primarily be on the bench. Yes, a 74 overall SS is MLB ready, but if you have a 80 overall above him leave the kid in AAA.

[Friar Fanatic]

Re: Franchise Player Development/Movement

Just make sure you personally manage the training of your players because sometimes the CPU will have them doing things you don't want, like having your star first baseman work on speed when it makes more sense for him to work on plate discipline.

And honestly, try to stay away from players who aren't A's or B's altogether. It seems like C's and lower don't develop at all, no matter how much training you give them.

C potentials can move up to B potentials. Plus I have had man C potential players progress nicely.

Some C potential players on my team are Cameron Maybin, Carlos Quentin and Chris Denorfia who are all awesome starters.

[kooch66]

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Thanks for the advice guys, big help!!

When you say that performance matters in development, I am assuming that means if they play will they develop faster? This is important and I'll give an example. As the Royals I have Kyle Zimmer starting in AAA still in September, he's 22 years old, A potential, and already a 78 overall. Next year I will need a new MLB starter but am torn on what to do. If I keep Zimmer in AAA for another year and he does extremely well again, will he progress further than if I promoted him and he does very average in MLB??

Also, as it pertains to training...I get what you are saying about not trusting the computer because they train in stupid stuff so that makes sense. But my fear is that if I ONLY train in certain things, the rest will go down, because that's what the game says will happen. Anyone have any advice on how to manage that? Like how long to train in one area before moving to another and how long an area can go untrained without it going down? It's impossible to tell when things have changed when you're trying to manage that many people. If I have a young kid and don't train his bunting the ENTIRE season that will go down right (because the game says so I think) or will it stay the same or go up a bit naturally because he's young, even without any focused training in that area?

[Jr.]

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I usually switch up training every month or so. I've only seen regression in low potential and older players; not saying it doesn't happen, but I haven't seen it in younger and/or C potential and higher players.

[kooch66]

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I usually switch up training every month or so. I've only seen regression in low potential and older players; not saying it doesn't happen, but I haven't seen it in younger and/or C potential and higher players.

Same here...but I have been letting the cpu auto rotate, so I haven't seen what happens if you go an extended period of time without training a particular area on a younger player.

[devils04]

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Also, as it pertains to training...I get what you are saying about not trusting the computer because they train in stupid stuff so that makes sense. But my fear is that if I ONLY train in certain things, the rest will go down, because that's what the game says will happen. Anyone have any advice on how to manage that? Like how long to train in one area before moving to another and how long an area can go untrained without it going down? It's impossible to tell when things have changed when you're trying to manage that many people. If I have a young kid and don't train his bunting the ENTIRE season that will go down right (because the game says so I think) or will it stay the same or go up a bit naturally because he's young, even without any focused training in that area?[/QUOTE]


No not training in something in franchise does not mean it will go down, that's only what happens in RTTS mode. I have only seen older players and low c rated and lower decrease at all, and the C's arn't losing a lot maybe a point here and there.

[ggsimmonds]

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Thanks for the advice guys, big help!!

When you say that performance matters in development, I am assuming that means if they play will they develop faster? This is important and I'll give an example. As the Royals I have Kyle Zimmer starting in AAA still in September, he's 22 years old, A potential, and already a 78 overall. Next year I will need a new MLB starter but am torn on what to do. If I keep Zimmer in AAA for another year and he does extremely well again, will he progress further than if I promoted him and he does very average in MLB??

Also, as it pertains to training...I get what you are saying about not trusting the computer because they train in stupid stuff so that makes sense. But my fear is that if I ONLY train in certain things, the rest will go down, because that's what the game says will happen. Anyone have any advice on how to manage that? Like how long to train in one area before moving to another and how long an area can go untrained without it going down? It's impossible to tell when things have changed when you're trying to manage that many people. If I have a young kid and don't train his bunting the ENTIRE season that will go down right (because the game says so I think) or will it stay the same or go up a bit naturally because he's young, even without any focused training in that area?

The other attributes will not go down as that is only part of RTTS. The only thing training does is make the trained attributes increase faster. That is all it does.

For your example call him up to the majors. I am not sure about this but it seems as if progression is related to player's overall and the quality of competition. In simplest terms, a guy will progress faster if he is hitting someone rated at or above his rating, but if he hits against pitchers far below his quality the benefit is not that good. Again though, it is just a theory that I cannot prove. I've noticed it with two of my AAA prospects.

For training, I like to keep the same training for a long time. I think you get a better benefit for prolonged training. Case in point:
In AAA I have a A potential CF named Will Kaufman. At the start of the season his hitting attributes were like 74/76 contact 44/36 power. So I trained him to increase his power.

After the first month power increased by 2 while other attributes increased by one.
It is now midseason and his power has increased by 10 while other attributes have increased by 5.

My plan is to select training at the start of the season and then change it up near the All Star break. So half the year training one thing, the other half something else

[CuseGirl]

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C potentials can move up to B potentials. Plus I have had man C potential players progress nicely.

Some C potential players on my team are Cameron Maybin, Carlos Quentin and Chris Denorfia who are all awesome starters.

True. I think I was being a bit draconian in my assessment of C's. I have plenty of them in my franchise, it just FEELS like they don't really go anywhere.

[newmich]

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True. I think I was being a bit draconian in my assessment of C's. I have plenty of them in my franchise, it just FEELS like they don't really go anywhere.

It really depends on the player. I drafted an 18 year old LF with 74 overall and 71 potential and he has actually been regressing at the age of 19! I have gotten his stock to rise twice now and if I remember correctly he is now a 79 pot. but all of his ratings have stayed put (better than regressing haha).