MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V1 Release

[buczneverlose]

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Quick question about pitch edits

When you edit the pitch types, velocity, break and control, does it factor into the overall rating or is it just the stamina, clutch, hits, hr, walks, k's and what not that determines a pitchers overall? Seems like the overall stays the same when I was testing it out but I just want to make sure .

[vidgames]

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Nice work men. Looking at Mariners defensive ratings and see you guys downgraded Miller and upgraded Zunino. That's all I need to see. Nice work!!

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I completely agree, however the last 3 regular seasons had 24, 25, and 26 .300 players. That is pretty far from 12, much less 6 or less.



Willard and his team have done a fantastic job, and even the roster team understood the batting was a tough fix.

Honestly the current issues seem fixable and the roster is an incredible effort, especially for a v.1

It's true but then again it really depends on your units of measurement. How important is the # of .300 hitters really? We already know OBP is much more important. That being said, I agree that the pitching has an edge mostly due to decreased BB levels. Even so, I quoted you just my 1st 2 sims...would really need 100 sims to make any conclusions. And I'm not going there, lol.

It'll be interesting to see, however, if the pitch edits will move the needle away from pitching or not. I don't think anyone can say for sure until the edits are done.

[KBLover]

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To be honest, some people won't play until the defensive ratings have had similar tender love and care as Jeezy gives the pitch edits, but luckily for me I am not that ocd about these rosters. Pitch edits mark the end of my personal rosteritis.

The problem with trying to standardize defensive ratings is that state-of-the-art defensive metrics (that are not proprietary info) are awful. Even if you guys use a system, there are bound to be problems with that--i.e. good OFs with bad FLDG %. Good SSs with bad UZR. Those stats fluctuate so much year over year it's kind of comical.

Yeah, probably because chances vary so much or the type of chances. Some balls are just harder than others, even when hit to "routine" depths/locations. Probably would need a sort of 3-year data set and that's hard (impossible?) to come by.

It's too bad because defense is important for sure, probably more so than pitch types in this game (you can get anyone out on any pitch, but fielding being off alters that ability for fielders).

That said - it wouldn't stop me from using the rosters. I could rate them similar to other players with the ability (rate Puig at least as high as other strong RF arms in the roster), etc.

[msmith05]

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Question about starter stamina. Playing with Astros cosart is cruising at 74 pitches in 7th. Up 3-0. Then it says he is tired. Do i need to adjust a slider or is that right

[HighCmpPct]

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Question about starter stamina. Playing with Astros cosart is cruising at 74 pitches in 7th. Up 3-0. Then it says he is tired. Do i need to adjust a slider or is that right

Depends what pitching style are you using? Classic, meter?

If you using anything besides pulse there's a good chance it's tied to the effort your putting on all your pitches, lots of high effort pitches drain stamina faster.

[Pandetta]

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It's true but then again it really depends on your units of measurement. How important is the # of .300 hitters really? We already know OBP is much more important. That being said, I agree that the pitching has an edge mostly due to decreased BB levels. Even so, I quoted you just my 1st 2 sims...would really need 100 sims to make any conclusions. And I'm not going there, lol.

It'll be interesting to see, however, if the pitch edits will move the needle away from pitching or not. I don't think anyone can say for sure until the edits are done.

Oh of course, that's why I said I agreed with you. Average matters perhaps for awards, and I mainly used it to reference earlier complaints.

I certainly don't think it is something significant to worry about.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Quick question about pitch edits

When you edit the pitch types, velocity, break and control, does it factor into the overall rating or is it just the stamina, clutch, hits, hr, walks, k's and what not that determines a pitchers overall? Seems like the overall stays the same when I was testing it out but I just want to make sure .

It definitely affects overalls.

Just saw Ryan Brasier of LAA go from 63 to 66 OVR after editing him.

[HighCmpPct]

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It definitely affects overalls.

Just saw Ryan Brasier of LAA go from 63 to 66 OVR after editing him.

Definitely effects it just on a smaller scale than the per/9 attributes do.

[URBYJT]

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Sorry if I'm coming across as knocking the rosters. I'm just blown away and lost with some of the sim results and ratings even tho you tell me not to look at them. That's impossible. Pretty much destroyed Puig, Arenando and plenty of others I could name. I just want to know the logic behind it all. When I wake up tomorrow I'll make sure to play a game and see how it pans out but as for me I think I'm gonna take on the task of doing the pitch edits to Version 2 of OSFM and use that for my franchise because it fits me better and provides the stats I want to see. Knowing how tough rosters are to do, I'll never knock them. It's time consuming and sometimes things slip and things don't work out as planned to what some people want. We all have our own personal preference and Willard and company did a great job in doing this and they should be commended for it. It worked great in the past I just want something to my liking and be able to start my franchise. It's the end of May. I'm more frustrated they didn't release this game any earlier so we can figure this stuff out in time for opening week/month of the season. Hope you understand. I actually would love to help fix what I feel is wrong but that wouldn't work cause you guys have a different way of doing it and I don't think I would be satisfied with any end result. Once again personal preference.

Disclaimer I am a little moody cause I spent the past 13 days in the hospital with a double kidney infection and I'm wrecked on pain meds so it makes me edgy, sorry if I offended anyone.

Did you use the sliders that Willard recommended? They compensate for lower contact numbers.

[romeosdistress]

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my only complaint is i think kris bryant ratings are way below what he is doing in the minor leagues. he went from a 70 to 61 overall. i know overall doesnt matter as much but he was also downgraded in the power department. he is mashing in aa right now. then i see baez power ratings and they are in the 70s lol. they are both top 10 prospects.

.337 .431 .641 1.072 with 14 hrs and 43 rbis... not sure how his power goes from 60s to 50s. seems like a mistake.

[URBYJT]

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my only complaint is i think kris bryant ratings are way below what he is doing in the minor leagues. he went from a 70 to 61 overall. i know overall doesnt matter as much but he was also downgraded in the power department. he is mashing in aa right now. then i see baez power ratings and they are in the 70s lol. they are both top 10 prospects.

.337 .431 .641 1.072 with 14 hrs and 43 rbis... not sure how his power goes from 60s to 50s. seems like a mistake.

When you look at other players in perspective, it makes sense. It's just a way to account for the level difference in the game.

[jermars666]

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Did you use the sliders that Willard recommended? They compensate for lower contact numbers.

My question is are these Veteran, Allstar, Hall of fame sliders?

[Troopershorty51]

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Hey Willard, haven't gotten a chance to download the rosters yet but I have a quick question. When you say "don't look at overall" do you just mean "do not compare the overall of a pitcher to that of a third basemen, or that of a third basemen to that of a center fielder," as there are different formulas for their overalls? Can overalls still be used within a single position to get a general sense of how well the player compares to the others of that position? Like an 80 rated shortstop is clearly better than a 74 rated shortstop, or is this not the case?

Just something I was wondering as I play on doing a fantasy draft 'chise and this could definitely effect that.

[HighCmpPct]

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Hey Willard, haven't gotten a chance to download the rosters yet but I have a quick question. When you say "don't look at overall" do you just mean "do not compare the overall of a pitcher to that of a third basemen, or that of a third basemen to that of a center fielder," as there are different formulas for their overalls? Can overalls still be used within a single position to get a general sense of how well the player compares to the others of that position? Like an 80 rated shortstop is clearly better than a 74 rated shortstop, or is this not the case?

Just something I was wondering as I play on doing a fantasy draft 'chise and this could definitely effect that.

It means don't freak out when you see someone that was a 90 overall on the default roster be in the 70s or 80s.