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  • justcallmedaddy
    Rookie
    • Apr 2011
    • 300

    #61
    Re: MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V2 Released

    Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
    It's really hard to look at two months from a guy who hit .195 last year and call for a ratings boost, lol. IMO, I think a 68 OVR is too generous for a guy like Flowers...if OVR meant anything special. Remember to look at specific attributes, they are more important than OVR

    I'm sure Willard and the gang will look at it, though don't expect any new releases in the immediate future--the team is actually going to play the game a little.

    I'd suggest to those who have minor gripes about your team...use the roster base and edit it to your liking. A lot of the "I think this guy is underrated" is often a personal opinion not shared by all (especially not by the ZiPS projections).
    I understand that, and I'm not asking for anybody to make these guys high 80's overalls, I just don't think either of them should be "Bench players and career minor league players" as the 60+ ovr is supposed to represent.

    I'm not going to try to sway your opinion on Flowers, but I just think a .300 hitter and .350 OBP hitter(albeit early) should have better contact hitting than 30, and maybe a little boost to his throw power.

    And again, just like I said in my previous statement, if he feels the need to stick by his current ratings, I'm fine with that and will make my own edits, I am only bringing this to his attention.
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    • PleasedToMeetMe
      Rookie
      • May 2014
      • 254

      #62
      Re: OSFM HYBRID ROSTER 2014 - V2 RELEASED

      Originally posted by Willard76
      Honestly I am not sure - I just want to enjoy the game a bit - if someone wants to volunteer to do that, we have a good list to work from
      Willard76, could you please upload the list or give me a link?

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      • WaitTilNextYear
        Go Cubs Go
        • Mar 2013
        • 16830

        #63
        Re: OSFM HYBRID ROSTER 2014 - V2 RELEASED

        Originally posted by ch46647
        Love these rosters!

        Only two concerns are

        1. Draft class players coming in way to high due to lowered overalls

        2. Players not asking for enough money in FA and throwing the team budgets out of whack.

        I know many of you SIM a lot, have you folks seen any glaring issues with either of the above concerns? If so, is there an easy "workaround"?

        Thanks!!
        1. Draft classes are not editable. so there's nothing you can do except stop worrying! lol. If you want to downgrade each drafted prospect's potential/ratings, you have to do that manually. Or you could just think of your franchise as entering a golden era of baseball with lots of talent. Pick your poison.

        2. You can use 30-team control, if only for the offseason, and you can sign guys to fair contracts yourself. A bit of work, yes, but doable if the contracts are bothering you. Also, think about it this way, if all players are asking for less money equally, what has really changed? It should affect the league equally. Big market teams will still be able to throw their weight around more. Maybe some small market teams will have a better shot at signing a few good players, but they still can't sign the quantity that the big budget teams can.

        Originally posted by titanjezzy
        Willard76, could you please upload the list or give me a link?
        The beard edit was already completed by Willard and released last night. Read back through the thread and you'll see it. It's in the roster vault as OSFM 2014 Hybrid V2a.
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        • WaitTilNextYear
          Go Cubs Go
          • Mar 2013
          • 16830

          #64
          Re: MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V2 Released

          Originally posted by justcallmedaddy
          I understand that, and I'm not asking for anybody to make these guys high 80's overalls, I just don't think either of them should be "Bench players and career minor league players" as the 60+ ovr is supposed to represent.

          I'm not going to try to sway your opinion on Flowers, but I just think a .300 hitter and .350 OBP hitter(albeit early) should have better contact hitting than 30, and maybe a little boost to his throw power.

          And again, just like I said in my previous statement, if he feels the need to stick by his current ratings, I'm fine with that and will make my own edits, I am only bringing this to his attention.
          That's fine, we can agree to disagree on Flowers, but my point in responding to you was just to advise you that if you are just waiting on an updated V2.1 version with an edited Flowers to start a chise, you shouldn't. The reason being that the next version will not be out as quickly as this past update was. So it would be more timely for you to apply those small number of edits you want to your V2 download--that's more what I was saying.

          All suggestions are welcome of course.

          EDIT: By the way...how sustainable do you think Flowers' .456 BABIP is? While striking out at a 35% clip and managing an ISO under .100?
          Last edited by WaitTilNextYear; 05-30-2014, 06:52 AM.
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          • justcallmedaddy
            Rookie
            • Apr 2011
            • 300

            #65
            Re: MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V2 Released

            Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
            That's fine, we can agree to disagree on Flowers, but my point in responding to you was just to advise you that if you are just waiting on an updated V2.1 version with an edited Flowers to start a chise, you shouldn't. The reason being that the next version will not be out as quickly as this past update was. So it would be more timely for you to apply those small number of edits you want to your V2 download--that's more what I was saying.

            All suggestions are welcome of course.

            EDIT: By the way...how sustainable do you think Flowers' .456 BABIP is? While striking out at a 35% clip and managing an ISO under .100?
            Which is what I was always going to do, of course I'm not going to rely on him to do a V2.1 just for me to start my Franchise, that would be asinine. The only reason I spoke up about it was to inform him of a possible change he could add whenever he makes his next update, whenever that may be and whenever he's ready to start doing it again.

            Well I think his .456 BABIP will definitely regress back down to the .300's simply because that is a very tricky stat to get a gauge on. But, considering He has a 27% line drive percentage, which is 10% better than last year, while also having a 54.8% groundball percentage tells me he's getting a much better bat on the ball this year than past years, considering his flyball percentage is down from 41.1% to 18.3%. And yes he does strike out a lot, which is why he bats 8 or 9 for us and not 5 or 6. But, has he shown definite improvements this year? I certainly think so.
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            • Willard76
              MVP
              • Mar 2012
              • 2841

              #66
              Re: MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V2 Released

              Originally posted by seanjeezy
              Uses my pitch edits, claims them as his own. You're welcome! /s
              My apologies to seanjeezy - just completely forgot to say where the pitch edits came from. You deserve a ton of credit for you yearly research and additions to your spreadsheet. Without that we don 't have these edits and I will make sure I edit the first post. It was an honest miss after staring at 2 screens much of the last 3 days

              Originally posted by Acts 4 12
              I have visited these forums for years and never have been inclined to create an account until tonight. I'm 40 years old and work full time along with being married with three children. I know the amount of time and dedication it takes to put together something like this so I can't tell you guys how much I appreciate this roster! I would never have the time to make these edits on my own with my game time being so limited due to the responsibilities of life. When I finally get time to play I want my game time to be maximized since it's so limited. To that end you guys have maximized my MLB gaming experience. There will always be something for someone to complain about but as far as I'm concerned this roster is excellent and if anything is off it's a matter of simple tweaking. Knight, Willard, Sean Jeezy, and the rest of you tremendous roster makers and rating input people take a bow because you guys make a good game simply fantastic!!! Thanks for all your hard work.
              This means a ton to me, not that anyone else's appreciation and thanks doesn't. I just am in the same position as this gentleman, and have a terrific wife who allows me the time every April and May to be part of this creation.

              Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
              Almost forgot what the inside of a played game looked like...instead of only menu screens. STOKED that I get to start my 'chise. Coming soon to a dynasty thread near you!

              Thanks again to Willard and Co. for leading this project and seeing it through in an incredibly timely manner.
              I hear ya and thank you for all your help

              Originally posted by justcallmedaddy
              Great roster man, really looking forward to starting a franchise with these.

              One question though, and I don't mean to sound like an *******, but did you forget to edit Adam Eaton and Tyler Flowers? Or is there a reason why they're 67 ovr and 68 ovr respectively? It's just my opinion that they're better players than that, and I'll leave it alone if you do think they are around that skillset, but I thought I'd just bring it to your attention to maybe look at them a little closer.

              Tyler Flowers has been hitting at .293 (over .300 before a ****ty series in Cleveland) this year, much improved from his .195 avg from last year, with .354 OBP which was also a huge improvement from last year at .247.

              Adam Eaton isn't lighting it up with only a .267 BA but he has a respectable .329 OBP and 15 RBI's at the lead-off position to go along with some pretty good defense. And I don't think he should be 2 overall points worse than Alejandro De Aza who has a .177 BA with a .240 OBP. The only thing I can really see that he does better is 2 more RBI's on 30 more plate appearances and running the bases.

              Again, I was only wanting to bring this to your attention. If you still feel they should stay at their respective overalls, I understand and I'll just make the edits myself. (I also recommend taking a look at Dayan Viciedo too though, who I also think shouldn't be worse than De Aza.)
              Eaton I didn't look at but Flowers I did. End of day (or season) he is still projecting out to a low .200s level.

              Originally posted by ch46647
              Love these rosters!

              Only two concerns are

              1. Draft class players coming in way to high due to lowered overalls

              2. Players not asking for enough money in FA and throwing the team budgets out of whack.

              I know many of you SIM a lot, have you folks seen any glaring issues with either of the above concerns? If so, is there an easy "workaround"?

              Thanks!!
              The only thing you can do is lower draft players ratings during the offseason. I go in and fox faces for those guy anyway

              As for salaries they balance out after a couple seasons and actually allow some teams to sign a player within their budget.

              Enjoy everyone, I am off to work

              Willard

              OSFM BLUE JAYS Creator

              Soundpack Contributor

              Associate Creator and Godfather of the OSFM Hybrid Roster

              follow me on twitter @billybrent

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              • PleasedToMeetMe
                Rookie
                • May 2014
                • 254

                #67
                Re: OSFM HYBRID ROSTER 2014 - V2 RELEASED

                Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                The beard edit was already completed by Willard and released last night. Read back through the thread and you'll see it. It's in the roster vault as OSFM 2014 Hybrid V2a.
                I know, but I need the list for me.

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                • PleasedToMeetMe
                  Rookie
                  • May 2014
                  • 254

                  #68
                  Re: MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V2 Released

                  Originally posted by Willard76

                  Note it is recommended that you play this roster with 30 Team Control - more info to be included shortly
                  Could you tell us when we get more info please?

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                  • mhbsavant77
                    Rookie
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 2

                    #69
                    I think one of the biggest things missed by custom rosters and default rosters is player speeds.i think speed is just as big of a weapon to anything else. Was speed accounted for?

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                    • Willard76
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 2841

                      #70
                      Re: MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V2 Released

                      Originally posted by mhbsavant77
                      I think one of the biggest things missed by custom rosters and default rosters is player speeds.i think speed is just as big of a weapon to anything else. Was speed accounted for?
                      Yes it was both positive and negative. You should still adjust your slider to 4 on baserunner speed

                      Originally posted by titanjezzy
                      Could you tell us when we get more info please?
                      Once I start my Franchise tonight, I will share my settings

                      Originally posted by titanjezzy
                      I know, but I need the list for me.
                      I don't have access to the spreadsheet on my phone. If one of the guys who do could copy and paste from the sheet to a post here, that would be great - otherwise I will when I get home tonight

                      OSFM BLUE JAYS Creator

                      Soundpack Contributor

                      Associate Creator and Godfather of the OSFM Hybrid Roster

                      follow me on twitter @billybrent

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                      • PleasedToMeetMe
                        Rookie
                        • May 2014
                        • 254

                        #71
                        Re: MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V2 Released

                        OK. Thanks.

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                        • Aensland
                          Rookie
                          • May 2014
                          • 246

                          #72
                          Re: MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V2 Released

                          One thing about stat projections are it can hurt players who are on breakout years. Not a big issue though; since we can edit players any time we want during a season/franchise. Ex: already given Tyler Flowers a bump in contact.

                          I also want to point out Doug Fister for the Nationals has a rating of 90, which is higher than most aces in the game, including Strasburg. Not sure if that was intended but it appears he's a bit too strong.

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                          • The Kid 24
                            It's Show Time!
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 14762

                            #73
                            Re: MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V2 Released

                            Originally posted by Aensland
                            I also want to point out Doug Fister for the Nationals has a rating of 90, which is higher than most aces in the game, including Strasburg. Not sure if that was intended but it appears he's a bit too strong.
                            I believe that's because of the control/break on some of his pitches.
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                            • Willard76
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 2841

                              #74
                              Re: MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V2 Released

                              Originally posted by Aensland
                              One thing about stat projections are it can hurt players who are on breakout years. Not a big issue though; since we can edit players any time we want during a season/franchise. Ex: already given Tyler Flowers a bump in contact.

                              I also want to point out Doug Fister for the Nationals has a rating of 90, which is higher than most aces in the game, including Strasburg. Not sure if that was intended but it appears he's a bit too strong.
                              This is a prime example of why Overalls don't mean as much as some believe they do. It is completely based on his break and control

                              OSFM BLUE JAYS Creator

                              Soundpack Contributor

                              Associate Creator and Godfather of the OSFM Hybrid Roster

                              follow me on twitter @billybrent

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                              • giantsteps
                                Rookie
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 68

                                #75
                                Re: MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V2 Released

                                Would it be possible for you guys to give an idea of how to scale different ratings when editing draftee's?

                                "If SCEA rates their contactvR @75, decrease to 61" or

                                "If SCEA rates running speed x, decrease by 11%"

                                So we would have a better idea of how to nerf the new draftclasses?

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