Madden NFL 15 Screenshot - Colin Kaepernick with Tattoos

[TheBuddyHobbs]

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I don't buy the artist excuse. It's YOUR tattoo on YOUR body...how can somebody have rights over something that is part of you?

Because EA.

[FaceMask]

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Not saying this screen isn't legit but early screen shots seem to always look amazing. Hope this is what the game legitimately looks like.

The second one I thought looked cartoonish. The first one looked great though. I think the final game actually looks on par with the first pic. As an example, here is an in-game shot I took a little while back:




The problem a lot of people had was that it didn't look quite on par with this:

[mestevo]

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I don't buy the artist excuse. It's YOUR tattoo on YOUR body...how can somebody have rights over something that is part of you?

It's not a new thing.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110408/03173713822/who-owns-copyright-tattoo.shtml

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/06/21/mystery-settlement-in-hangover-2-tattoo-lawsuit/

Haven't read these, running to a meeting:

http://kotaku.com/5961490/thq-gets-tattooed-by-lawsuit

http://setexasrecord.com/arguments/235547-legally-speaking-tattoo-you-lawsuits-over-body-art-lead-to-lots-of-ink

[bad_philanthropy]

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I don't buy the artist excuse. It's YOUR tattoo on YOUR body...how can somebody have rights over something that is part of you?

Yes, I can understand how laws protect certain art from buyers reproducing it for personal gain, but tattoos are made part of the body, and therefore are a fundamentally different form of commercial exchange than typical commodities.

There is a difference between reproducing the precise format of someone's work unlawfully, like say, a painting, or a movie, and trying to sell it or represent it as one's own, and being alive with a body that's been tattooed by someone else.

I think if you are in the business of selling a service to alter someone's body you lose the right to retain your intellectual and artistic property as your own. I cannot imagine any legal waiver affording rights of a tattoo artist over another individuals' body. Laughable that there are copyright laws that propose the opposite.

[Eman5805]

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Okay, EA. You have my attention. But looking good is only part of the struggle. The animation engine will likely be the same, yes? If that ain't on point...no go for me.

I need players to have weight and tight responsiveness. Not floaty and loose.

[Boltman]

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I don't buy the artist excuse. It's YOUR tattoo on YOUR body...how can somebody have rights over something that is part of you?

Maybe there is an article out there in regards to specific legalities to help us understand this better.

Maybe some literature in regards to The Hangover suit for reference.

Because EA.

The decision on no tatts in game isn't specifically an EA one. I believe it's moreso a conscious one to avoid legal consequences.

This may be something out of EA's hands.




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[jeremym480]

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I don't buy the artist excuse. It's YOUR tattoo on YOUR body...how can somebody have rights over something that is part of you?

What's next? Are players' parents going to start suing EA for using their creations?

[TheBuddyHobbs]

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Maybe there is an article out there in regards to specific legalities to help us understand this better.

Maybe some literature in regards to the hangover suit for reference.








The decision on no tatts in game isn't specifically an EA one. I believe it's moreso a conscious one to avoid legal consequences.

This may be something out of EA's hands.




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But NBA 2K and WWE can do it? Sorry I don't buy it.

[bad_philanthropy]

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I hope my barber doesn't find out my company used a picture of me in some promotional material in which I was sporting one of their haircuts.

[Cowboy008]

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I don't get the thing with the tattoos. How is NBA able to have all those tattoos in their game then?

[Boltman]

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But NBA 2K and WWE can do it? Sorry I don't buy it.

You don't have to buy it.

Maybe 2K and WWE have different policies in place regarding this. Maybe they approached the issue differently as to avoid potential legalities.

We don't have all the facts and yet you have contempt prior to investigation.

All I'm saying is we don't know exactly why, maybe with more information we'll have a better understanding.



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[MajorSupreme]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Screenshot - Colin Kaepernick with Tattoos

You don't have to buy it.

Maybe 2K and WWE have different policies in place regarding this. Maybe they approached the issue differently as to avoid potential legalities.

We don't have all the facts and yet you have contempt prior to investigation.

All I'm saying is we don't know exactly why, maybe with more information we'll have a better understanding.



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Better yet, we get to E3, they explain the screenshot as: "Yeah, we gave Kaptain Colin and seven other players tattoos. That's it. That's all we're saying. Moving on." And then we never know. I sure hope they explain.

[roadman]

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For what's it's worth, taken from the mesteveo THQ article:

And, come to think of it, it's not something any maker of sports video games where real-world athletes and their real-world tats appear. I'm thinking specifically of NBA games. The NBA has a photo day in which every feature of a player's (uniformed) body is photographed up close. I've seen the images. I asked a designer what possible purpose they serve other than to assist video game artists in recreating those tattoos. "Beats me," he shrugged.P

I know that some players' tattoos are missing in NBA 2K13; it's possible this is the reason why. But given the enormous volume of body art in that league, it's almost a certainty someone else is going to pinch a publisher for money down the road.

Sounds like a slippery slope. Remember, EA has been sued by everyone and their brother lately.

Just saying.

Same Question hit a FIFA developer:

Why don't tattooed players have their tattoos in the game? (Stuart Maughan)

It's a long and complicated story but all different reasons, really. Sometimes we don't have permission to use them; there's a bunch of different reasons for that. We actually get emails and messages from the players more than the fans saying, 'Where's my tattoo?' The copyrights around tattoos is really interesting, you'd be surprised."

[slick589]

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RG3 is the only one that can wear a single sleeve in madden bc he ok'ed it......just seems like another halfway effort by EA to me

[biffsmack]

I'm calling Bullshot on this till we see gameplay. Remember the RG III shot last year?