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Re: Sound Off: Why Does America Hate the Heat?
Dan Gilbert pretty much opened his check book to build a team around LBJ. It was tough to build through the draft with one lottery pick, but they did the best they could, but why are guys going to sign long term when LBJ wouldn't commit. Both Artest and Ariza decided not to come because LBJ didnt commit. Wouldnt consider them all stars, but if we couldnt get those type of players, how would all stars come? Ferry turned "water into wine" with some of the moves he made, but as mentioned could never get a #2, even though Mo was solid. There were rumors on sign and trade deals for Bosh, as long as both signed off, but we now know what was planned all along.Comment
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I just don't get the hate for them teaming up. People were on him for not recruiting people to come to Cleveland, but when he does join a loaded team people get mad. I believe people were on Rose about that too a few years back, as well as Dirk."To the last minute, to the last second, to the last man, we fight"Comment
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Absolutely correct. LeBron's sheer talent actually stunted their growth. Instead of racking up a few more lottery picks they found themselves in the playoffs purely because LeBron was already an All-Star and top player from day 1.
I have no idea as to who was truly available, but all I can do is judge the talent that Gilbert and company put around LeBron. It wasn't pretty, and that's putting it nicely. Trading for a washed up Jamison, a washed up Shaq. Those were pretty much the best moves they could come up with...Comment
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Honestly it sounds like the Bulls to me. People like to sit and bag on the talent that LeBron had around him in Cleveland but then get mad at management for not turning that "trash" into all-stars/superstars. If the talent is as bad as everybody likes to say, how the hell were they supposed to flip them into Dwyane Wade/Derrick Rose/Chris Bosh type talent? Free agents won't sign there and you have trash on your roster with no lottery or mid teen draft picks, but go get LeBron some help. Thanks for the answers there esteemed basketball gurus.Comment
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Right, this is what I addressed in my initial post. I think it was definitely a combo of mismanagement and Cleveland simply not having any luck with the draft/luck with getting any big splashes in trades.
Not sure what the last line about esteemed basketball gurus was about?Comment
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Wasn't directed at you. Just meant at the typical 'hahaha Cleveland sucks! LeBron played with trash, get better help for him' crowd that never likes to put any context to the situation and act like Cleveland literally just sat around on their asses not trying to do anything to help LeBron.Comment
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I hear you, I don't think Cleveland sat on their hands I just think they didn't get the job done plain and simple. As hard as a task as it might have been with what they had to work with, they did not surround James with adequate support. Which is the reason why, in the end, I do not blame James for wanting to go to a situation where he could guarantee playing with two other All-Stars. You can't compete if you don't have at least two other exceptional support teammates.Comment
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Wait...I thought KG's relationship with Minny was fine because I was under the assumption that there was no hard feelings between them, especially judging from the reaction he's gotten every time he's went back to Minnesota since he got traded?#RespectTheCultureComment
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We're getting away from the main point. Did KG ask for a trade out of Minnesota? That's the main question. He really didn't ask for a trade until it was apparent that it would be best for both sides. He didn't go out of his way to force the Wolves' hand, he stayed with that team longer than he probably should have. He rode it out as long as he could and there's no proof as to when or if KG exactly sent the message that he wanted to be traded.
Discussing his relationship with the Wolves is really not the same discussion.
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Read more at: http://nesn.com/2012/03/kevin-garnet...e-personified/Gradually, Garnett's relationship with the Timberwolves reportedly soured as the team employed four head coaches in his final three seasons in Minnesota. The team won just 32 games in 2006-07 before trading Garnett to the Celtics for Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes, Gerald Green, Theo Ratliff, Sebastian Telfair and two first-round draft picks.Comment
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This article seems to sum up the situation from 2007. Like I said, it seemed like it was more of an understanding that a trade would be good for both KG and the Wolves. It wasn't really a matter of KG going behind closed doors asking for a trade.
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