NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

[jp7588]

Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

If they made a generic version and put it on PC (nba 2K is released on PC annually), modders would have the near equivalent of a licensed version made shortly after release.

There hasn't been a legitimate football game on PC in like 6-7 years... I can't imagine a "next-gen" level 2K football game on PC not selling reasonably well.

It'd be a harder sell on consoles, but I think the 2K brand may have enough name-recognition now to draw some attention away from Madden. NBA 2k has become the standard for basketball gaming and has permeated pop culture in a way similar to Madden. Throw a game together with pretty graphics, customization and 2K on the box and I think they'll have much better luck than they did with APF.

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[aholbert32]

Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

It would be a football game, but not NFL teams. Some custom league, or a league we design ourselves.

Many issues with that though:

1) Sales - You need a hook to sell most sports games. APF had legends. Madden has the NFL license. Most people dont want to create a league or design it themselves.

2)Content - Most people just want the NFL license and w/ a generic game someone could make a league like that. The problem with that is 2k wouldnt be able to allow you to share that league because of the NFL. The NFL would rain down a million cease and desist letters to 2k if it ever hosted an NFL league on its servers.

[MajorSupreme]

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Many issues with that though:

1) Sales - You need a hook to sell most sports games. APF had legends. Madden has the NFL license. Most people dont want to create a league or design it themselves.

2)Content - Most people just want the NFL license and w/ a generic game someone could make a league like that. The problem with that is 2k wouldnt be able to allow you to share that league because of the NFL. The NFL would rain down a million cease and desist letters to 2k if it ever hosted an NFL league on its servers.

Yep, I'd expect sales to be low for a game like that. Markets change, but people wanting the NFL pretty much takes the cake.

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[inkcil]

Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

I would even be happy if they announced the following:

1.) An Arena Football League game or a Generic game or a High School game
2.) Game would be a "low-development cost" upgrade of APF 2k8 (& its engine)
3.) Full game would only be on Ps3/360 (again, minimizing development costs and maximizing potential revenues because of large user base)
4.) Large Demo version of game available for Ps4/X1
4.) Game would be digital download only on all platforms
5.) Game would not have tons of modes but have limited online functionality (minimize costs)

Purpose of game would be to generate 2k Football buzz once again and re-evaluate public interest in 2k Football without pumping so much money into it that 2k and its investors would feel totally burnt if it were not wildly successful.

[TemplateR]

Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

Many issues with that though:

1) Sales - You need a hook to sell most sports games. APF had legends. Madden has the NFL license. Most people dont want to create a league or design it themselves.

Most people want create a player of himself in a sportsgame. So why not creating a league, teams?

2)Content - Most people just want the NFL license and w/ a generic game someone could make a league like that. The problem with that is 2k wouldnt be able to allow you to share that league because of the NFL. The NFL would rain down a million cease and desist letters to 2k if it ever hosted an NFL league on its servers.

We don´t know, if NFL allow that or not.

[Cardot]

Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

Many issues with that though:

1) Sales - You need a hook to sell most sports games. APF had legends. Madden has the NFL license. Most people dont want to create a league or design it themselves.

2)Content - Most people just want the NFL license and w/ a generic game someone could make a league like that. The problem with that is 2k wouldnt be able to allow you to share that league because of the NFL. The NFL would rain down a million cease and desist letters to 2k if it ever hosted an NFL league on its servers.

1) Couldn't they cater to a niche market? Without any licensing fees for legends, the NFL or NCAA, couldn't they turn a profit without trying to outsell Madden?

2) I am an old school off-line gamer. So wonder if there would be something for folks like myself to share NFL creations.....Although you are right about the online leagues aspect which are so popular today. That would certainly complicated matters.

[aholbert32]

Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

Most people want create a player of himself in a sportsgame. So why not creating a league, teams?




We don´t know, if NFL allow that or not.

Creating one player is way easier than creating hundreds of players/teams/uniforms/jerseys/stadiums


Come on man. Is this even a question? The NFL doesnt allow people to use the Super Bowl name without permission. You actually think the NFL would be ok if another company was allowing people to create and share its logos/team names/stadiums/players? Really?

[MajorSupreme]

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Creating one player is way easier than creating hundreds of players/teams/uniforms/jerseys/stadiums


Come on man. Is this even a question? The NFL doesnt allow people to use the Super Bowl name without permission. You actually think the NFL would be ok if another company was allowing people to create and share its logos/team names/stadiums/players? Really?

Though you are right and I agree with you, you are the essential definition, exactly textbook, of a Debby downer XD.

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[goravens2052]

Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

I feel at this point, we should just close this thread until the Sony Press Conference later tonight. No use on speculating the rest of the day.

[aholbert32]

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Though you are right and I agree with you, you are the essential definition, exactly textbook, of a Debby downer XD.

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LOL. I'm sorry. I just have realistic expectations. I could talk for days about what my dream football game is but if that cant realistically happen...why would I talk about it?

[goravens2052]

Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

I was just watching an interview with one of the guys from the upcoming Tomb Raider game. They didn't give an exact release date but said they wanted to hype it and get fans excited.

So... it could be quite possible that an announcement could be made for a future game with the tag line of "Coming Soon".

[burnt_secondary]

Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

You know, I've always said The League with a full eleven man teams, football sim gameplay, franchise mode, 32 teams, NFL rules, and the League story lines would have been very good. The League had a much better hook than All Pro.

Allow restricted customizations much like All Pro did and the NFL couldn't do anything about it.

Here is the thing though. 2k is trying to play nice to try and get the license back some day. Making enemies with the NFL is the last thing they want to do. Anything we see from 2k will indirectly have the NFL's blessing IMHO.

[aholbert32]

Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

You know, I've always said The League with a full eleven man teams, football sim gameplay, franchise mode, 32 teams, NFL rules, and the League story lines would have been very good. The League had a much better hook than All Pro.

Allow restricted customizations much like All Pro did and the NFL couldn't do anything about it.

Here is the thing though. 2k is trying to playing nice to try and get the license back some day. Making enemies with the NFL is the last thing they want to do. Anything we see from 2k will indirectly have the NFL's blessing IMHO.

Ive heard from multiple 2k employees in past years as this being the reason why they have never produced a generic game.

[tbennett54]

Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

Can we just close this thread? 2k isn't making a football game.

[tsbmolina]

Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

Can we just close this thread? 2k isn't making a football game.

No one is forcing you to read.