NHL 15: First Gameplay Video Emerges

[drog1602]

Re: NHL 15: First Gameplay Video Emerges

Im not going to panic just yet. I remember watching a sneak video from E3 last year of NHL14 and it looked horrible. I suspect its on rookie and Im positive there are no slider adjustments. For all NHL 14s issues it looked and played way better then the version those knuckleheads were playing at E3 last year. It is disappointing to see that people like Gaborik who don't fight still get into fights. Its a lot to wish for but non fighters should just get into the old shoving match that culminates in a crowd of guys getting into the act. followed by a faceoff and maybe the occasional penalty. I know im reaching here.....I do suspect however there will be very little change to gameplay. It seems that EA is going to run with the presentation overhaul as well as small graphical improvements allowed by the next-gen system as their feather in their cap.

Lol, NHL looked horrible at E3 last year and...when we finally got it, it played horrible as well. The only difference was they removed a feature they had told us would be in the game.

This game they are showing is 99% complete, save for some visual additions and fiddling with the tuning. It will play as we see it here, no doubt in my mind.

[jayenomics]

Re: NHL 15: First Gameplay Video Emerges

Lol, NHL looked horrible at E3 last year and...when we finally got it, it played horrible as well. The only difference was they removed a feature they had told us would be in the game.

This game they are showing is 99% complete, save for some visual additions and fiddling with the tuning. It will play as we see it here, no doubt in my mind.

NHL 14 was horrible? News to me. The game was great in my opinion. NHL 15 looked fantastic, but what can we really pull from two minutes? I would have liked to see someone actually try and hit someone in that video.

[Ovie832]

Re: NHL 15: First Gameplay Video Emerges

It seems you guys are hitting the nail on the head in terms of gameplay.To me, the game still looks far too arcade-y and fast. Super unrealistic. But here are some thoughts I have about another part of the game.. that has been lacking for years and years.

first.. this has nothing to do with gameplay.. or online..etc. Please do not give the 'i rather them work on gameplay' stuff..

EA has long had issues with player equipment and its authenticity. There has been a bit of discussion about the gear brands saying what is allowed and not allowed in the game... but i sometimes have trouble believing it.. as NHL 2k had many different customization options that EA has NEVER had.

EA has major equipment issues... I know some things may be licensing issues but others are just plain old mistakes. Gear could really help player variety. How sick are you of seeing everyone look the same when skating? Or look the same when they shoot? In the first nhl 15 trailer.. Ovechkin looked nothing like himself (other than his face).. literally almost every single piece of gear on him was wrong. Where is this UNPRECEDENTED PLAYER LIKENESS?

I really wish EA would insert the customize glove color from create a team.. in to the edit player screen. They ALWAYS have glove issues with every team.

I would really like to see them set up customization the way 2k did with equipment. it was SO in depth.
you could choose how to tape your blade and butt end... how to tape your socks (including color of sock tape.. clear vs color)... also could individually choose color patterns for gloves and sticks.

that started in 2k8. 7 years ago that game was made.. and still has better customization options. (granted i never loved the gameplay but still. EA very much needs to up their game on player variety in terms of gear) '

Basically.. I think EA really needs to make a more customized approach to edit a player.. (which i hope expands in next gen anyway)..
Granted some of the equipment issues are due to the fact that EA scans RETAIL gear.. as opposed to PRO STOCK equipment that the players use. (if you are familiar with hockey gear.. the stuff players use quite often has a much different appearance and functionality than the gear you can buy in stores..)

give me some of your guys' opinions and what you think EA can do to help this..

I can't be the only person who is tired of seeing the wrong glove colors on players.. or the same taping style for EVERY stick in the game.. etc

[centauris]

Re: NHL 15: First Gameplay Video Emerges

NHL 14 was horrible? News to me. The game was great in my opinion. NHL 15 looked fantastic, but what can we really pull from two minutes? I would have liked to see someone actually try and hit someone in that video.

All OperationSports is, is people hating on sports games.

[Pezell04x]

Re: NHL 15: First Gameplay Video Emerges

NHL 14 was horrible? News to me. The game was great in my opinion. NHL 15 looked fantastic, but what can we really pull from two minutes? I would have liked to see someone actually try and hit someone in that video.

It wasn't great. It definitely had some major problems with puck physics, hitting and goaltending after a patch because people bitched they couldn't score.

[Mgbleu1986]

It is 2014 and players STILL always have 2 hands on their stick with the puck....Wake up EA!

[SpectralThundr]

Re: NHL 15: First Gameplay Video Emerges

All OperationSports is, is people hating on sports games.

While I'm sure this post was in jest, it's actually not far off from truth. What happened to this site really? How did people become jaded and entitled over the last few years?

[jayenomics]

Re: NHL 15: First Gameplay Video Emerges

It wasn't great. It definitely had some major problems with puck physics, hitting and goaltending after a patch because people bitched they couldn't score.

So one is an issue with the console hardware, and the other two were easily fixed through sliders. I wouldn't exactly call them major game issues. There will always be goals that are easier to score than others, and the vast majority will abuse them. That being said, you find a good league online and you don't have to deal with any of that OVP trash.

[OSGuy321]

The AI looks and plays dreadful. Awful.

[gabbers895]

Re: NHL 15: First Gameplay Video Emerges

Theres an NHL 15 spot on the Gamestop stage at 2:20 est (if my math doesnt fail me)

I'd post a link but I guess Im too new to do so :P

Wonder if we'll actually get some info or if were just gonna hear a rehash of the same stuff we've seen a million times?

[actionhank]

Re: NHL 15: First Gameplay Video Emerges

Naw the critics are salivating to judge alpha footage, played by 2 dudebros 3 months before the game is actually done. It's amazing in a way. What skill level the game is on greatly affects how the AI plays, the critics won't let that either get in the way of a good EA SUCKS rant however.

*GIF*

Can you honestly blame people for being a bit pessimistic? The AI will definitely play a big part in making or breaking this game for a lot of people, but it's still a bit of a let down to see something that looks like it's playing like a well polished NHL14 instead of a truly next-gen game.
I went into this video hoping to be proven wrong on the things i had thought might happen, but so far my expectations weren't far off. The skating and AI look largely unchanged. The goalies still look like they play the same nonsense game they did before. Is it fair to judge it based off of this tiny clip? Not entirely, but you do take something away from that. If you watched this video on low-res you would be hard-pressed to tell it apart from NHL14 by just watching the way the players move.

That said, there's still time. But, it's a daunting task. People want AI that plays hockey. Personally, i got bored with NHL14 because entering the zone was stupidly easy. I dumped the puck just to do it. Not because i had to. The attacking AI was more of the same. Skate down the wings, get smashed into the boards, stand still, start back skating when i get next to them, repeat. Same for AI players on the rush who would just stop skating at the blue line or the circles instead of crashing the net on a 3-on-1. EA has a lot to prove with 15. They've got the hardware to make amazing AI. They haven't had anywhere close to this level of memory to allocate to the computer running plays, noticing open ice, or creating breakouts. Hopefully they do something with it.
I can get past players that look goofy to me, i can deal with another year of a pretty stale Be A GM experience, but i can't take another year of brain-dead AI who just skate from one place to another, or stand still or run into each other in the zone because there's nothing else they know to do.

I'm still waiting for an actual EA provided video showing the game itself off, instead of 2 guys who are god-awful at hockey playing it, but that doesn't mean i'm not a bit letdown with what i saw beyond their control in this.

:edit:

Also, sliders that really work would be a huge change. If they gave us more slider control, and it made a noticeable difference, that would alleviate a ton of problems.
EA would be better off if they had more creation/sharing. Rosters, slider settings, created players. If we had a vault type system similar to what the show has, people could easily download released roster improvements, players, teams, and sliders, freeing up EA's time to address gameplay issues a slider fix won't deal with.

[AdamJones113]

Re: NHL 15: First Gameplay Video Emerges

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/X2oc4sNHVgQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Here's similar quality footage from E3 2014. Looks very similar to NHL 14.

Any ideas when EA will give us a professional video? That's what I'm looking forward to.

[Pezell04x]

Re: NHL 15: First Gameplay Video Emerges

So one is an issue with the console hardware, and the other two were easily fixed through sliders. I wouldn't exactly call them major game issues. There will always be goals that are easier to score than others, and the vast majority will abuse them. That being said, you find a good league online and you don't have to deal with any of that OVP trash.

I would call the AI dumping the puck into the corner and having it go above Zdeno Chara's head a major issue - especially when you have to stop, have your player wait there and lose all momentum in the corner.

Puck physics were easily a major problem and that dump I'm talking about wasn't something you could control w/ sliders.

There were more issues. Players played the same. Teams played the same. It wasn't as good as some people make it out to be and it wasn't as bad as a lot of people make it out to be. On a scale of 1-10, it is a solid 5. It is an average NHL game.

[actionhank]

Re: NHL 15: First Gameplay Video Emerges

I would call the AI dumping the puck into the corner and having it go above Zdeno Chara's head a major issue - especially when you have to stop, have your player wait there and lose all momentum in the corner.

Puck physics were easily a major problem and that dump I'm talking about wasn't something you could control w/ sliders.

There were more issues. Players played the same. Teams played the same. It wasn't as good as some people make it out to be and it wasn't as bad as a lot of people make it out to be. On a scale of 1-10, it is a solid 5. It is an average NHL game.

My frustration with that was that it was something that wasn't there before. It got patched in, but never out. And there's no counter for it. I can get there 5 minutes before anyone else, but i can't grab the puck or try to get it. I have to hope when it lands, there's no AI around to snatch it up while i sit there with no defense against it.

[gabbers895]

Re: NHL 15: First Gameplay Video Emerges

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/X2oc4sNHVgQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Here's similar quality footage from E3 2014. Looks very similar to NHL 14.

Any ideas when EA will give us a professional video? That's what I'm looking forward to.

That looked even worst than the other one. You cant really make out the nice graphics in this one and without them it does seem a lot like 14...

luckily this is just an alpha version. The release is always much different I find.