The Tackling in Madden 15 is ATROCIOUS!

[Mike Lowery]

Based off the videos ive seen it's some of the worst tackling I've ever seen in a sim football game and makes the game unplayable for me. I mean the canned animations ruin everything, they overcome weight, momentum, angles, and ratings. RTP ain't the answer, it's year 3 and it has not improved at all, they need to build a new tackling engine or adopt one such as the one in Back Breaker. Two man tackling is a joke, it only triggers sometimes, too many instances defenders just stand around looking instead of helping on tackles, heck, the tumbleweed and shoulder dive animations looked better than just standing around. I mean with better graphics and new camera angles the bad tackling and animations are more noticeable than ever, makes the game look rushed and unfinished to me. I'm surprise more people arent raising more hell about this, tackling this bad should be unacceptable in 2014. Any word on if they are going to tune the tackling (make two man tackling more frequent) before release?

[Official_Mole]

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Based off the videos ive seen they are it's some of the worst tackling I've ever seen in a sim football game and makes the game unplayable for me. I mean the canned animations ruin everything, they overcome weight, momentum, angles, and ratings. RTP ain't the answer, it's year 3 and it has not improved at all, they need to build a new tackling engine or adopt one such as the one in Back Breaker. Two man tackling is a joke, it only triggers sometimes, too many instances defenders just stand around looking instead of helping on tackles, heck, the tumbleweed and shoulder dive animations looked better than just standing around. I mean with better graphics and new camera angles the bad tackling and animations are more noticeable than ever, makes the game look rushed and unfinished to me. I'm surprise more people arent raising more hell about this, tackling this bad should be unacceptable in 2014. Any word on if they are going to tune the tackling (make two man tackling more frequent) before release?

Thank you for the feedback.

[TheBuddyHobbs]

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And it's been this way since Madden 11. If they would overhaul the animations it would look and feel like a brand new game. Doesn't look like that is in their plans anytime soon.

[usaaaaaa]

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The animation is pretty bad. Needs an overhaul.

[TCFClemson]

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Agreed and it really is a shame. The game looks amazing until players move.

Back Breaker on the other hand was simply not a good game other than player interactions. If Madden could get a full physics system for player interactions that would be amazing and would be a huge LEAP forward for the franchise.

[apollon42]

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The Backbreaker tackling system doesnt work. They players would fall like rag dolls. It didnt look realistic either.

[deej93]

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tackling, running, cutting, juking. I mean lets be honest a lot of animations need to be revamped at this point.

[FaceMask]

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The animation is pretty bad. Needs an overhaul.

I agree. People may have had grounds last gen to tell people to suck it up, but it's a new generation and now two games in and we're dealing with the same bad animations. That's a major issue.

But to overhaul now is unlikely despite whatever they may say to quiet us down. It's a massive undertaking and I don't expect it to happen now. I could live with them cutting the God awful ones, bringing back some good ones that they've cut for some reason, fixing selection to reduce some that play far more than they should, and tuning down (if possible) compression for ones that would be better if not so compressed. I honestly think that doing those things would help tremendously.

[DNMHIII]

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I agree. People may have had grounds last gen to tell people to suck it up, but it's a new generation and now two games in and we're dealing with the same bad animations. That's a major issue.

But to overhaul now is unlikely despite whatever they may say to quiet us down. It's a massive undertaking and I don't expect it to happen now. I could live with them cutting the God awful ones, bringing back some good ones that they've cut for some reason, fixing selection to reduce some that play far more than they should, and tuning down (if possible) compression for ones that would be better if not so compressed. I honestly think that doing those things would help tremendously.

As long as they release a last gen game we'll never see a next gen game IMO. Honestly the gameplay/player movement looks almost identicle on both last gen and current gen systems and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if they've just ported last gen to current and will continue to until last gen gets phased out.

We might be stuck with this gameplay this entire console.

[The JareBear]

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As long as they release a last gen game we'll never see a next gen game IMO. Honestly the gameplay/player movement looks almost identicle on both last gen and current gen systems and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if they've just ported last gen to current and will continue to until last gen gets phased out.

We might be stuck with this gameplay this entire console.

Yup. Look at the difference between games that are solely developed for current gen consoles (Ryse, inFamous, etc) and compare them to the multi-plat games (Watch Dogs, CoD). Last gen is definitely holding current gen back.

We might not get a true "next gen" Madden for years

[TheBleedingRed21]

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I think atrocious is being over dramatic. It needs work, but it has come a long way. There used to only be 5 tackle animations in football games.

[usaaaaaa]

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Yup. Look at the difference between games that are solely developed for current gen consoles (Ryse, inFamous, etc) and compare them to the multi-plat games (Watch Dogs, CoD). Last gen is definitely holding current gen back.

We might not get a true "next gen" Madden for years

I think atleast graphically, in a still, they have made a decent leap this year. NBA 2k14 quality? Not quite. But it's better than the trash we were fed with Madden 25.

They need to focus on things that matter though. The look of the game will improve so much more if you push for realistic animation. It doesn't matter how detailed your character models are, if they run around looking like **** it wont really matter. Animation quality is absolute key.

[usaaaaaa]

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I think atrocious is being over dramatic. It needs work, but it has come a long way. There used to only be 5 tackle animations in football games.

Compared to Madden 2012? It hasn't come a long way. It's been very, very slow.

[DNMHIII]

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I think atrocious is being over dramatic. It needs work, but it has come a long way. There used to only be 5 tackle animations in football games.

I think when you look at what can be done in today's video games it's a really fair assessment IMO. If this was 2006 maybe, but it's 2014 and games progress and for some reason madden continues to fall well short of most sim user expectations. Its not just gameplay, it's actually the entire game and it's really just completely butchered outside of the graphics IMO.

[drlw322]

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I don't think RTP is the problem, I think it's the animation quality and variation prior to physic kick in is the problem.

There just need to be way more animation especially transition animations. And there are plenty of disc space.

The only enjoyment I get out of madden 25 tackling right now is some times I see some really cool things I have not seen before or only seen once because of physic there just needs to be more of that and more polishing.

I think there is way too much focus on 1 on 1 tackling this year and they tune down physics