NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

[JayBee74]

Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

The best way to make an authentic simulation of the NFL is to not use a license. Suspensions, PEDs, drive by shootings are all in play. Would you draft a player with a 90 ovr knowing he has character issues ala Josh Gordon, or a veteran that just wants a pay day like Albert Haynesworth. The possibilities are limitless and I think 2k/Rockstar could pull it off. It would be my dream game.

Bottom line is gameplay. For me anyway. I could care less about the external stuff. A lot of you guys put franchise ahead of everything. I guess your suggestions could add to a franchise mode.

[LingeringRegime]

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This is going to be my go to Football Game from here on out. I know it is a text sim, but their baseball game is phenomenal.

Can't wait for its eventual release.

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[vpizzle28]

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This is going to be my go to Football Game from here on out. I know it is a text sim, but their baseball game is phenomenal.





Can't wait for its eventual release.





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That game sounds great for single player! Good find!

[tsbmolina]

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Has anyone stopped to consider maybe 2K intentionally did not want the rights quite yet and let EA grab the exclusivity for 2-3 more years because 2K knew that's how long it would take them to develop a game. Perhaps they are timing it so that when the deal comes back up they will be ready with a game. Why on earth would 2K buy what's an expensive license this year and not have a game ready until 2016?

[JayBee74]

Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

This is going to be my go to Football Game from here on out. I know it is a text sim, but their baseball game is phenomenal.

Can't wait for its eventual release.

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/newsletters/nl0134/

OS-Sideline Football Developer

[King_B_Mack]

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Has anyone stopped to consider maybe 2K intentionally did not want the rights quite yet and let EA grab the exclusivity for 2-3 more years because 2K knew that's how long it would take them to develop a game. Perhaps they are timing it so that when the deal comes back up they will be ready with a game. Why on earth would 2K buy what's an expensive license this year and not have a game ready until 2016?

Makes no sense. If the rights were available they could snatch them and in the negotiations make it clear when they'd have their first game due. No point in allowing the league and EA to lock up into a deal that they may not want to end again.

[kehlis]

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Makes no sense. If the rights were available they could snatch them and in the negotiations make it clear when they'd have their first game due. No point in allowing the league and EA to lock up into a deal that they may not want to end again.

You can't "snatch up" a deal if you aren't ready to release a game.

The NFL isnt going to allow them to take and then allow them to take their time with releasing a game.

That doesn't even make sense.

[tsbmolina]

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Makes no sense. If the rights were available they could snatch them and in the negotiations make it clear when they'd have their first game due. No point in allowing the league and EA to lock up into a deal that they may not want to end again.

Not necessarily because remember with a new system comes new development tools and it would have been impossible for 2K to know what the PS4 and Xbox One would be capable of a few years ago. Now 2K knows and now they can start working on a new game. Also consider the fact that the install base for these systems are very small now and will be much greater two years from now. Why invest in such an expensive license now with little chance of recouping cost and selling as many copies then you would 2 years from now when the install base will be much greater, you can only sell as many copies as there are systems sold. Smart business would dictate be patient and attack when the odds are on your side.

[Hooe]

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Not necessarily because remember with a new system comes new development tools and it would have been impossible for 2K to know what the PS4 and Xbox One would be capable of a few years ago.

XBOX One devkits existed in some form for around two years before the XBOX One was released. I can only assume the PS4 devkits were offered out along a similar timeline.

The tech was evolving and updated as the system architecture and SDK was finalized, sure, but game dev shops were never remotely close to being in-the-dark about the new systems once concrete plans for both were put into motion. How else do you think they had fully-functional boxed-release games ready for system launch?

[FaceMask]

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Bottom line is gameplay. For me anyway. I could care less about the external stuff. A lot of you guys put franchise ahead of everything. I guess your suggestions could add to a franchise mode.

I agree. However, without more to it, this type of game especially will be a hard sell like APF was. Even having a deep franchise alone won't do it. To appeal to the mass market, there has to be a big hook that reaches a large demo.

[tsbmolina]

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XBOX One devkits existed in some form for around two years before the XBOX One was released. I can only assume the PS4 devkits were offered out along a similar timeline.

The tech was evolving and updated as the system architecture and SDK was finalized, sure, but game dev shops were never remotely close to being in-the-dark about the new systems once concrete plans for both were put into motion. How else do you think they had fully-functional boxed-release games ready for system launch?

Why invest in such an expensive license now with little chance of recouping cost and selling as many copies then you would 2 years from now when the install base will be much greater, you can only sell as many copies as there are systems sold. Smart business would dictate be patient and invest in such an expensive endeavor when the odds are better on your side to make a profit.

[Gridiron]

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I do understand what you are saying. Just because they make a good Baseball SIM, does not mean they would make a good NFL SIM game.

However, the engine that the show uses for graphics, player models, presentation, and gameplay could be made into a good football game. The Show team could oversee the game, as they know what a SIM game looks like.

Also, Rockstar was a poor example because they made a sports game and it was fantastic....Rockstars Table Tennis was a well executed game with a great engine a good gameplay.

That's all I was saying.

That's why Rockstar and 2K need to quit fool'in around and team up. Rockstar on the story side, 2K on the football.

That game would be crack my dude.

[King_B_Mack]

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You can't "snatch up" a deal if you aren't ready to release a game.

The NFL isnt going to allow them to take and then allow them to take their time with releasing a game.

That doesn't even make sense.

I meant if they wanted to get the license they could enter negotiations with the NFL and could negotiate with them in the terms that they would have a game ready next year or in two years. Madden would still be releasing so the league wouldn't be without an NFL game out on the shelves in that time. I could see the NFL allowing something like that under that circumstance. I'm not saying they'd get an exclusive license and do this, that doesn't make sense.

I also don't think it makes sense if you're 2K to allow an opportunity to get an NFL license to pass you by to allow EA and the NFL to enter a NEW 2-3 year deal because you want to work on a game in those 2-3 years. What happens when you spend the money to make that game and then find out this latest deal has changed the NFL's mind about opening up to multiple developers or EA decides to back up another dump truck of money to them because they're worried about this new game coming?

[tsbmolina]

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I meant if they wanted to get the license they could enter negotiations with the NFL and could negotiate with them in the terms that they would have a game ready next year or in two years. Madden would still be releasing so the league wouldn't be without an NFL game out on the shelves in that time. I could see the NFL allowing something like that under that circumstance. I'm not saying they'd get an exclusive license and do this, that doesn't make sense.

How do you know that's not exactly what's happening now.

[Hooe]

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How do you know that's not exactly what's happening now.

The problem with this sentiment is that there is nothing anyone can offer to attempt to discredit it. The sentiment is not based in logic, so it cannot be reasoned with.

The facts as we know them - EA Sports has an NFL exclusivity license and a representative of 2K Sports has acknowledged that "another company" has an exclusivity arrangement with the NFL and thus they are not working on a football game. To me, the logical conclusion from the above known facts is that 2K is not working on a football game whatsoever. Even if some other company is working on a console football game, we don't know about it, there is no evidence by which we could deduce its existence, and we won't know about it until we actually see it materialize via a first-hand announcement or preview materials from a reliable video game industry source.

Until such point, said hypothetical football game doesn't exist and we should all stop chasing ghosts.