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  • GiantBlue76
    Banned
    • Jun 2007
    • 3287

    #46
    Re: Has anyone noticed the pre-play fidgets now?

    Originally posted by jpdavis82
    I see some of that old locomotion stuff you guys are talking about and I really think they are and have been since last year, working right now on a new animation/locomotion system.

    I'm calling it now, madden 16 will have a new True Motion animation system and a focus on WR/DB interactions, Living Worlds fully fleshed out, and continual improvement across the board on the areas worked on in 25 & 15. IF that happens how satisfied with this Madden team would you be?
    No way. We will get WR/DB interaction next year, and that will probably be about it. After all, you have to give people something to buy for the following year, right? Since there aren't enough ideas to put into a game in a cycle.

    You said all of this same stuff in Madden 13, then Madden 25, and now this year. Right now, you are living proof that the EA marketing team's brainwashing really does work. Come on man, let's not get ahead of ourselves. We have a very incomplete football game here, and not to mention, all we are talking about is Gameplay and Presentation. The severely lacking career mode(s) are a whole new can of worms.

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    • johnnyg713
      MVP
      • Dec 2007
      • 1465

      #47
      Re: Has anyone noticed the pre-play fidgets now?

      After reading the points on true step not being implemented for all 22, I have a feeling we won't see it. Why completely revamp defensive AI when you know you'll just have to change it all over again once true step is fully implemented? Unless someone can explain why working backwards makes sense in this situation, I don't see what would make people believe they'll add it next year.
      Last edited by johnnyg713; 06-16-2014, 11:10 PM.

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      • Ovie832
        Banned
        • Nov 2013
        • 48

        #48
        Re: Has anyone noticed the pre-play fidgets now?

        I love little quirks and fidgets in game play. I've always looked for it in other games... Madden has a few this year.. but like most things they add... their isn't enough variety. Already in all the videos i've scene... the QB has done that neck cracking animation where he rolls his neck left and right as he approaches the line of scrimmage.. or he points to the to the linebackers.. every time!

        It's progress... but doesn't seem very deep. Just like the intros.. I feel like i've seen all the intro's have to offer at this point from just seeing the E3 videos.. Coach kneeling on the ground with the QB before he comes out.. or leaning on his shoulder talking in to his ear.. RB/WR grabs his helmet and flips it up in the air. It just is NEVER varied enough. Why not keep the old team intros in the game and add these little things one by one each year? so there are many options on what could happen when the game starts? it makes no sense.

        and as far as the real-time celebrations after plays.. I've seen the JJ watt salute, the dribble basketball fadeaway.. and the lebron celebration already many more times than I should have seen them at this point.

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        • jpdavis82
          All Star
          • Sep 2005
          • 8794

          #49
          Re: Has anyone noticed the pre-play fidgets now?

          Originally posted by johnnyg713
          After reading the points on true step not being implemented for all 22, I have a feeling we won't see it. Why completely revamp defensive AI when you know you'll just have to change it all over again once true step is fully implemented? Unless someone can explain why working backwards makes sense in this situation, I don't see what would make people believe they'll add it next year.
          Watch the video about reach tackles that I posted in the video thread. They are building the game in phases, so each year they will add to each feature that is added. That video specifically talks about this year is phase one for reach tackles. This year is phase 2 of True Step, goes beyond the ball carrier. FIFA has been building their games this same way and we all know how that has worked, Madden is on their way.

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          • johnnyg713
            MVP
            • Dec 2007
            • 1465

            #50
            Re: Has anyone noticed the pre-play fidgets now?

            Originally posted by jpdavis82
            Watch the video about reach tackles that I posted in the video thread. They are building the game in phases, so each year they will add to each feature that is added. That video specifically talks about this year is phase one for reach tackles. This year is phase 2 of True Step, goes beyond the ball carrier. FIFA has been building their games this same way and we all know how that has worked, Madden is on their way.
            I have read that true step has not been touched this year. So it has been confirmed that true step has been worked on? What has been changed?

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            • roadman
              *ll St*r
              • Aug 2003
              • 26339

              #51
              Re: Has anyone noticed the pre-play fidgets now?

              Originally posted by johnnyg713
              I have read that true step has not been touched this year. So it has been confirmed that true step has been worked on? What has been changed?
              I'm getting conflicting reports on true step.

              One CGer noticed true step in LB's, Clint said that not all 22 players on the field have it, but more than the ball carrier.

              HELP???????????????

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              • bodymore
                Rookie
                • Jul 2009
                • 220

                #52
                Re: Has anyone noticed the pre-play fidgets now?

                Originally posted by jpdavis82
                True but if you noticed, they did fix the WR foot alignment.
                That's good, Now they have to fix the d line alignment. Most (not all) d lineman put the arm nearest to the ball down on the ground. It might be a little detail but it does help. I wish they had a way to make the huddle real time as well. Seeing the same cutscenes is already getting old. It really sticks out when you have a small running back like Ray rice in the huddle and he is the same size as a lineman.
                Last edited by bodymore; 06-17-2014, 08:35 AM.

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                • BezO
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 4414

                  #53
                  Re: Has anyone noticed the pre-play fidgets now?

                  Whether True Step is in for more than ball carriers or not, I think EA's interpretation of realistic footwork is different than mine because I'm seeing even ball carriers swervin'.

                  I'm hoping some great features have been turned of in these alpha builds.
                  Shout out to The Watcher! Where you at bruh?

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                  • jpdavis82
                    All Star
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 8794

                    #54
                    Re: Has anyone noticed the pre-play fidgets now?

                    Originally posted by BezO
                    Whether True Step is in for more than ball carriers or not, I think EA's interpretation of realistic footwork is different than mine because I'm seeing even ball carriers swervin'.

                    I'm hoping some great features have been turned of in these alpha builds.
                    What you're wanting is something they haven't implemented yet but it's coming, new animation system and locomotion based on momentum. True Step only applies when you foot plant. The way players move overall is something they are still working on but again it's coming along with signature animations.

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                    • jpdavis82
                      All Star
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 8794

                      #55
                      Re: Has anyone noticed the pre-play fidgets now?

                      Originally posted by roadman
                      I'm getting conflicting reports on true step.

                      One CGer noticed true step in LB's, Clint said that not all 22 players on the field have it, but more than the ball carrier.

                      HELP???????????????
                      Yes Clint told me that it applies to more than the ball carrier but not all 22 yet, they're working on that and he also mentioned that he's currently working on it being implemented for lineman next year.

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                      • BezO
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 4414

                        #56
                        Re: Has anyone noticed the pre-play fidgets now?

                        Originally posted by jpdavis82
                        What you're wanting is something they haven't implemented yet but it's coming, new animation system and locomotion based on momentum. True Step only applies when you foot plant. The way players move overall is something they are still working on but again it's coming along with signature animations.
                        Help me understand what True Step is.

                        I'm talking about the lack of foot planting, in addition to the lack of leaning into turns, and realistic acceleration/deceleration.

                        True step is not supposed to address these? If not, then what? Whoever True Step applies to, what should I be looking for?
                        Shout out to The Watcher! Where you at bruh?

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                        • jpdavis82
                          All Star
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 8794

                          #57
                          Re: Has anyone noticed the pre-play fidgets now?

                          Originally posted by BezO
                          Help me understand what True Step is.

                          I'm talking about the lack of foot planting, in addition to the lack of leaning into turns, and realistic acceleration/deceleration.

                          True step is not supposed to address these? If not, then what? Whoever True Step applies to, what should I be looking for?
                          True Step is footplanting, here's two really good videos about it from M25

                          Last edited by jpdavis82; 06-17-2014, 11:09 AM.

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                          • Jr.
                            Playgirl Coverboy
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 19171

                            #58
                            Re: Has anyone noticed the pre-play fidgets now?

                            Originally posted by jpdavis82
                            What you're wanting is something they haven't implemented yet but it's coming, new animation system and locomotion based on momentum. True Step only applies when you foot plant. The way players move overall is something they are still working on but again it's coming along with signature animations.
                            Do you have a link or source that says they're implementing a new animation system and making locomotion based on momentum? This is the first I've heard of it.
                            Last edited by Jr.; 06-17-2014, 11:06 AM.
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                            • BezO
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 4414

                              #59
                              Re: Has anyone noticed the pre-play fidgets now?

                              Originally posted by jpdavis82
                              True Step is footplanting, here's two really good videos about it from M25

                              http://youtu.be/ca_tHIUwgsU
                              Yeah, I'm not seeing this in the recently released vids. One of the 1st to be release had James of the 49ers swerving up the sidelines. And I've seen it in other vids.

                              Those choppy steps, body leans & plants are not triggering nearly to the extent shown is these 2 vids you just posted. Both narrators are addressing & presenting exactly what I'm talking about, but it's not present in what's being released. I'll look closer.
                              Shout out to The Watcher! Where you at bruh?

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                              • jpdavis82
                                All Star
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 8794

                                #60
                                Re: Has anyone noticed the pre-play fidgets now?

                                Clint just told me they were not able to get to formation and auto subs this year, sounds like they are wanting to completely redo them not just tweak.

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