Madden NFL 15: Five Tips To Be Better This Fall

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  • jyoung
    Hall Of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 11132

    #31
    Re: Madden NFL 15: Five Tips To Be Better This Fall

    You could slide the protection, tell extra people to block, audible to a new play and flip the play direction as much as you wanted in 2K5 and 2K8. The only pre-play limitation on the offense was for changing individual routes -- you were allowed one route change per snap.

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    • ggsimmonds
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jan 2009
      • 11235

      #32
      Re: Madden NFL 15: Five Tips To Be Better This Fall

      Originally posted by jyoung
      You could slide the protection, tell extra people to block, audible to a new play and flip the play direction as much as you wanted in 2K5 and 2K8. The only pre-play limitation on the offense was for changing individual routes -- you were allowed one route change per snap.
      Thanks for the clarification. Still, it would handicap the user too much in my opinion. I wanna be able to get my Peyton Manning on, just not in less than two seconds and before everyone is lined up.

      While I would prefer the time delay, I would also prefer the other method over the status quo. We all agree that a change is needed.

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      • NicVirtue
        Rookie
        • Oct 2011
        • 453

        #33
        Re: Madden NFL 15: Five Tips To Be Better This Fall

        What is this nonsesne? Like seriously. It's things like this that give me no hope for a simulation football game out of EA. With game changers that promote this kind of stuff, and the divide between them and GC's that actually want simulation football, as well as the lack of featured simulation football articles/videos. If that video was about anything regarding sim football by any of the GC's that want it, it wouldn't have gotten featured on here. Maybe I'm over reacting, but I'm annoyed by things like this.

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        • NicVirtue
          Rookie
          • Oct 2011
          • 453

          #34
          Re: Madden NFL 15: Five Tips To Be Better This Fall

          Originally posted by ggsimmonds
          Thanks for the clarification. Still, it would handicap the user too much in my opinion. I wanna be able to get my Peyton Manning on, just not in less than two seconds and before everyone is lined up.

          While I would prefer the time delay, I would also prefer the other method over the status quo. We all agree that a change is needed.
          Actually you were able to set multiple hot routs. It was an option in the pause menu I believe. You just couldn't do it nearly as fast like in Madden. You had to wait for that animation to finish, and if you had accelerated clock on, you'd better not even try to call multiple.

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          • Live2K
            Banned
            • Feb 2014
            • 155

            #35
            Re: Madden NFL 15: Five Tips To Be Better This Fall

            Ea simply needs a fair play mode back and a better way to seperate the sim people into lobbies. They tried with the communities but apparently no one here used it...so lets blame ea and bring up 2k...

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            • dat boi Q
              Pro
              • May 2009
              • 611

              #36
              Re: Madden NFL 15: Five Tips To Be Better This Fall

              Originally posted by Live2K
              Ea simply needs a fair play mode back and a better way to seperate the sim people into lobbies. They tried with the communities but apparently no one here used it...so lets blame ea and bring up 2k...
              No they NEED to program there game better so cheese like this isn't so affective. Guys like you just kill me. It's a shame that people have to bring up a 10 year old game that is better then madden. The only thing that keep people bringing up 2k is madden because if they made a BETTER game no one would have to bring it up. Madden is the only game across all genres of gaming that gets compared to a 10 year old game. The only thing madden has done better then 2k is the graphics.
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              • Live2K
                Banned
                • Feb 2014
                • 155

                #37
                Re: Madden NFL 15: Five Tips To Be Better This Fall

                Don't be afraid to play online sim gamers. There are leagues and ways to work around maddens cheese with rules and good intentions. Sure vie for improvements each year and a better madden but its not going to change if you don't use the services EA is offering online.

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                • hanzsomehanz
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 3275

                  #38
                  Re: Madden NFL 15: Five Tips To Be Better This Fall

                  I vote in favor of implementing the delay in responses to hot routing and furthermore the delay for flipping plays.

                  Madden can get so caught up in the fast pace of speed that it diminishes the value of having purposefully prolonged animations that add realism and immersion.

                  Tourney gamers literally use the flip play as a scheme within their strategy on both offense and defense which is more a gimmick than a strategy when done with no consequence.

                  - You have the ability to flip the play at the play call screen: you should now have to wait for the defense to show their positions before you flip the play.

                  - It should bare negative consequences on both sides by appropriately setting a timer window for how long it takes players to shuffle and get in new positions.

                  Void of flipping plays based on what you see post huddle: the instant flip play after breaking the huddle simply serves as a gimmick to exploit the defensive AI.



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                  • GiantBlue76
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 3287

                    #39
                    Re: Madden NFL 15: Five Tips To Be Better This Fall

                    If anyone has ever looked at Cody's channel, there is nothing related to football on it. It is madden ball. He will show you how to use the right combination of spies, contains, putting dts on wide receivers, etc that will generate instant pressure, etc. I've said this countless times in the past and I will say it again now. Madden is a game BASED on football. The guys who have these types of YouTube channels dominate the direction and implementation of this game. To see this kind of thing promoted here at OS is really disappointing and sad.

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                    • carnalnirvana
                      Pro
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 1981

                      #40
                      Re: Madden NFL 15: Five Tips To Be Better This Fall

                      while i like the discussion/ideas on how to limit cheese its frustrating because we are also moving further away from real football...

                      i dont like longer qb adjustment animations if its not based on the skill of the QB,

                      add animations for guys that are running their 3rd consecutive vertical route 60+yds, they should be crawling back to the LOS in a hurry up situation

                      have fatigue actually work and force guys to have subs on the field, if i decide to punish the broncos D with a long 12 play drive can Dware really make 10 PERFECT swim/spin/bull rush stamina draining moves at his age in the thin air...shouldn't i have to sacrifice as well to do that.

                      rework the carry and injury rating the type of beating we let these players take contributes to these chessy play styles.

                      madden needs a hardcore mode with 300% more fatigue so game managers and those of us that know a player by more than his speed rating can have some fun.
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                      • OhMrHanky
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 1898

                        #41
                        Re: Madden NFL 15: Five Tips To Be Better This Fall

                        Lol. I remember a friend of mine hadn't played madden since 08, I think. He only played on PC, and they stopped making it for the PC. He finally bought a 360 for madden 13. He thought, 'eh, while I'm buying madden, I'll buy this Prima strategy guide to get me caught up on madden stuff.' The first thing he reads in the 'official' madden strategy guide is something like, 'if u play with a team with a strong receiving TE, go ahead and make him your 2nd string WR.' Lol. This kid is a serious football fan, a serious sim type guy, and he instantly threw that guide in the trash. Lol.


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                        • juduking
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 196

                          #42
                          Re: Madden NFL 15: Five Tips To Be Better This Fall

                          He sent me a YouTube message asking me what my problem was with him and how he plays the game. I guess I'll just send him a link to this thread and suggest he read through the comments.
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                          • BezO
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 4414

                            #43
                            Re: Madden NFL 15: Five Tips To Be Better This Fall

                            Originally posted by moylan
                            Those are the same 5 tips I'd send EA on making a better football game, might slide #4 up to #1 tho
                            Ha! Genius!

                            Originally posted by jyoung
                            One of the best features that people rarely mention when they bring up 2K's football games was the limit they had for just one offensive hot route per snap. The defense, however, could make unlimited pre-play adjustments.

                            That system helped to make games like 2K8 and 2K5 much more balanced, instead of the unstoppable offensive highlight reel that Madden games have become.
                            2 things made those games more balanced. The ability to call your front/stunts/blitzes separate from your coverage, and the locomotion.

                            The plays folks create by multiple hot routes should already be in the game. And the defenses doesn't know what the offense called any way.

                            IMO, limiting the offense is not the answer. Allowing gamers to scheme on defense like you could in 2K8 is. Because so few people complain about the pre-schemed defenses in Madden, I don't think folks realize how limiting it is. You have to pick the stunts & blitzes you want and live with the available coverage/shell, or pick the coverage/shell you want and live with the available stunts/blitzes. It's nonesense.
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                            • Big FN Deal
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 5993

                              #44
                              Re: Madden NFL 15: Five Tips To Be Better This Fall

                              Originally posted by BezO
                              Ha! Genius!

                              2 things made those games more balanced. The ability to call your front/stunts/blitzes separate from your coverage, and the locomotion.

                              The plays folks create by multiple hot routes should already be in the game. And the defenses doesn't know what the offense called any way.

                              IMO, limiting the offense is not the answer. Allowing gamers to scheme on defense like you could in 2K8 is. Because so few people complain about the pre-schemed defenses in Madden, I don't think folks realize how limiting it is. You have to pick the stunts & blitzes you want and live with the available coverage/shell, or pick the coverage/shell you want and live with the available stunts/blitzes. It's nonesense.
                              You could make that point all day and you have, to your credit, you are technically right, the best kind. However, in the context of Madden, to do it "right" would mean rewriting/rebuilding things from scratch, which is apparently not an option, for whatever reason. I know that you have mentioned in the past the problem with requesting bandaids and place holders instead of core fixes but when the landlord refuses to replace the old rusty pipes you need a plan B or move.

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                              • NDAlum
                                ND
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 11453

                                #45
                                Re: Madden NFL 15: Five Tips To Be Better This Fall

                                An exchange on that video page:

                                Commenter: what will you do when you cant hot route 14 times before the snap each time anymore?

                                Video maker/cballard: "find something else that works man, but right now hot routing a lot is how I play there's nothing wrong with that man EA didn't put hot routes in the game for me to not use them so I don't understand why you're so frustrated with the fact that I make pre-snap adjustments."

                                In his defense he clearly states he is a TOURNEY STYLE player. He doesn't claim to play the game with any type of respect or integrity for football, so I don't think it's fair to hold him to that standard when he doesn't even think about it when he plays. He "labs" in practice to find exploits just like the prima gamer guys and whoever else he mentioned.

                                I actually don't mind these guys because their videos are useful for making rules in SOS Crew.
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