My GM Free Agency

[jarviswise]

The player signings and team signings need to be reworked. Far to often do I see a team win an NBA championship and lose their best player to free agency. And the player will have 1 offer at the start of free agency from his original team, but if another team offers a contract the player will typical leave.

Example: Durant wins a championship in 2016 with the Thunder, he test free agency and that off season he signed with the Bulls..

[buckeyestilidie3]

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The player signings and team signings need to be reworked. Far to often do I see a team win an NBA championship and lose their best player to free agency. And the player will have 1 offer at the start of free agency from his original team, but if another team offers a contract the player will typical leave.

Example: Durant wins a championship in 2016 with the Thunder, he test free agency and that off season he signed with the Bulls..

Or LeBron leaving no matter what after 2014.

[RumbleCard]

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It doesn't need to be reworked as badly as they need give us 30 team control.

I'm convinced that no matter how much tweaking and adjusting they do its almost impossible to mirror a realistic league. There's just too much "personality" that doesn't translate back to video game code.

At least with more control the user can make adjustments on the fly when they see things going off the rails.

This force-feed linear path with single GM control has no place in a sport "franchise/association/dynasty. Leave that stuff to the MyRPG crowd and get back to giving the use more administrative control not less.

[miamidaddy]

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It's also annoyed me that you can't make trades during the free agency period. There is no offseason trade deadline, we should be able to do sign and trades, and the like after the draft.

[Franchise408]

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Or LeBron leaving no matter what after 2014.

You mean... like he left after 2014 in real life?

[cavs25]

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You mean... like he left after 2014 in real life?

He left?
Because opting out means the same thing as leaving?

You know that the best thing for the heat is for all three to opt out right?

[buckeyestilidie3]

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He left?
Because opting out means the same thing as leaving?

You know that the best thing for the heat is for all three to opt out right?

Yep.

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[Franchise408]

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He left?
Because opting out means the same thing as leaving?

You know that the best thing for the heat is for all three to opt out right?

He opted out. He isn't guaranteed to come back, nor is he guaranteed to leave.

Which is pretty much exactly what happens in NBA 2K14. He opts out. As do players like Wade, Bosh, Pau Gasol, and Kobe Bryant, all of which re-signed with their former teams after opting out in my GM Mode.

LeBron didn't re-sign, because I swooped in and took him.

Sooo if NBA 2K14's free agency period virtually mimicking 2014's real NBA free agency period is unrealistic...

*shrugs*

[bo.jangles344]

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Boohoo. Can we get a game that somewhat stimulates real life ON the court first?

You people will complain about everything.

[buckeyestilidie3]

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He opted out. He isn't guaranteed to come back, nor is he guaranteed to leave.

Which is pretty much exactly what happens in NBA 2K14. He opts out. As do players like Wade, Bosh, Pau Gasol, and Kobe Bryant, all of which re-signed with their former teams after opting out in my GM Mode.

LeBron didn't re-sign, because I swooped in and took him.

Sooo if NBA 2K14's free agency period virtually mimicking 2014's real NBA free agency period is unrealistic...

*shrugs*

The big difference between real life and the game is money talks. He could go to the Bucks or the Magic if they offered him enough money. Realistically there's only two teams LeBron would sign with and neither are the Magic or Bucks.

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[jarviswise]

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The off season trade deadline is very silly... You would think they would have a sign and trade system by now. If we could have trade override again it would help being able to even up teams and put players back on their original teams... At this point we cannot do anything...

[Franchise408]

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The big difference between real life and the game is money talks. He could go to the Bucks or the Magic if they offered him enough money. Realistically there's only two teams LeBron would sign with and neither are the Magic or Bucks.

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Yea maybe, but at some point, this IS a video game, and not everything is going to be 100% perfectly realistic.

But the original complaint wasn't about LeBron James signing with the Bucks. It was about him leaving the Miami Heat. Which, as of now in the real NBA, is certainly a possibility considering the reality that LeBron James DID opt out of his contract with the Miami Heat.

And for the record, if you want to justify LeBron James signing with my Orlando Magic, just know that he wasn't the only big move I made in the off-season. With over $30 million in cap space, a high lottery pick, and a second 1st round pick, just imagine that in my meeting with LeBron, I promised him a new gathering of a new "Big 3", along with the added bonus of repairing his reputation by having him essentially resurrect a dead franchise and bringing them to the top of the mountain.

And those promised moves turned into bringing in Danny Granger, trading my second 1st rounder for another lottery pick, drafting Dante Exum and Joel Embiid, and teaming them up with an established Jameer Nelson and a soon to be star in Victor Oladipo.

So that cellar dweller Orlando Magic, with draft assets and large amounts of cap space, turned into a premiere team in the Eastern Conference in my GM Mode.

While in real life, LeBron James won't be signing with the Orlando Magic... EVER (nor do I really want him to, as a fan of the Orlando Magic and an adamant ***** of LeBron James), I don't think that the idea of being the centerpiece of a new turnaround for an up and coming franchise to become a new powerhouse in the NBA, with James as the focus of that, would be out of the realm of appeal for LeBron James, a guy who's reputation and legacy has been tarnished because he had to group up with a Top 3 talent, and a perennial all-star to finally get over the hump.

I just justify it that I, as general manager, made promises to LeBron that would appeal to his character, and followed through with those promises to have him be the centerpiece of a winning franchise.

I think the main problem with a lot of these "THAT'S NOT REALISTIC" posts in terms of player movement is that ultimately, these players in the video game are a collection of statistics with a portrait attached. There's no personality.

In real life, premiere players change locations all the time. In the video game, you're right, it's all about money, or computers running algorithms to get rid of players because they have too much of a certain position. In real life, it's far more complex.

But look at the various sports.

In the NFL, you have had Peyon Manning get outright released, Terrell Owens traded to various teams, Anquan Boldin traded for a 6th rounder.

In the NBA, you have LeBron James opting out of his contract, the Orlando Magic trading away Dwight Howard for KY jelly (to help with the impending rapage), Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce traded to the Nets, and Kevin Love being shipped out of Minnesota.

All moves that, when they happen in Madden or NBA 2K, we cry "oh that's not realistic"

But in real life, it's very realistic, because there are other forces other than money and a player rating that determine a player's tenure with a team.

These aspects have no representation in a video game. Sometimes the game tries - NBA 2K has a morale system that shows how happy a player is with a team.

But we don't really have lingering issues, age doesn't make much factor outside of a slight OVR rating decrease, no off the court legal issues, no off the court career desires, etc...

So we see these moves in game as being unrealistic, when in real life, these types of moves have plenty of precedent.

So that's why it doesn't really bother me all that much. I guess I just use my imagination to say so and so wasn't happy, or had an off-season arrest, or in my case with LeBron, my GM made a REALLY good pitch to him that appealed to his character.

[buckeyestilidie3]

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Yea maybe, but at some point, this IS a video game, and not everything is going to be 100% perfectly realistic.

But the original complaint wasn't about LeBron James signing with the Bucks. It was about him leaving the Miami Heat. Which, as of now in the real NBA, is certainly a possibility considering the reality that LeBron James DID opt out of his contract with the Miami Heat.

And for the record, if you want to justify LeBron James signing with my Orlando Magic, just know that he wasn't the only big move I made in the off-season. With over $30 million in cap space, a high lottery pick, and a second 1st round pick, just imagine that in my meeting with LeBron, I promised him a new gathering of a new "Big 3", along with the added bonus of repairing his reputation by having him essentially resurrect a dead franchise and bringing them to the top of the mountain.

And those promised moves turned into bringing in Danny Granger, trading my second 1st rounder for another lottery pick, drafting Dante Exum and Joel Embiid, and teaming them up with an established Jameer Nelson and a soon to be star in Victor Oladipo.

So that cellar dweller Orlando Magic, with draft assets and large amounts of cap space, turned into a premiere team in the Eastern Conference in my GM Mode.

While in real life, LeBron James won't be signing with the Orlando Magic... EVER (nor do I really want him to, as a fan of the Orlando Magic and an adamant ***** of LeBron James), I don't think that the idea of being the centerpiece of a new turnaround for an up and coming franchise to become a new powerhouse in the NBA, with James as the focus of that, would be out of the realm of appeal for LeBron James, a guy who's reputation and legacy has been tarnished because he had to group up with a Top 3 talent, and a perennial all-star to finally get over the hump.

I just justify it that I, as general manager, made promises to LeBron that would appeal to his character, and followed through with those promises to have him be the centerpiece of a winning franchise.

I think the main problem with a lot of these "THAT'S NOT REALISTIC" posts in terms of player movement is that ultimately, these players in the video game are a collection of statistics with a portrait attached. There's no personality.

In real life, premiere players change locations all the time. In the video game, you're right, it's all about money, or computers running algorithms to get rid of players because they have too much of a certain position. In real life, it's far more complex.

But look at the various sports.

In the NFL, you have had Peyon Manning get outright released, Terrell Owens traded to various teams, Anquan Boldin traded for a 6th rounder.

In the NBA, you have LeBron James opting out of his contract, the Orlando Magic trading away Dwight Howard for KY jelly (to help with the impending rapage), Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce traded to the Nets, and Kevin Love being shipped out of Minnesota.

All moves that, when they happen in Madden or NBA 2K, we cry "oh that's not realistic"

But in real life, it's very realistic, because there are other forces other than money and a player rating that determine a player's tenure with a team.

These aspects have no representation in a video game. Sometimes the game tries - NBA 2K has a morale system that shows how happy a player is with a team.

But we don't really have lingering issues, age doesn't make much factor outside of a slight OVR rating decrease, no off the court legal issues, no off the court career desires, etc...

So we see these moves in game as being unrealistic, when in real life, these types of moves have plenty of precedent.

So that's why it doesn't really bother me all that much. I guess I just use my imagination to say so and so wasn't happy, or had an off-season arrest, or in my case with LeBron, my GM made a REALLY good pitch to him that appealed to his character.

LOL a LeBron *****? The Magic could have all the talent in the world and he still wouldn't leave. He knows his legacy would be tarnished if he went to anywhere besides Cleveland or Miami. To the fact of Peirce being traded or Manning being dropped that never happens in video games. The idea of rebuilding isn't in any video game as every team tries to be competitive no matter the circumstances. As for LeBron "leaving" you used the wrong verb. Him, Wade, and Bosh are all gonna opt out to purely add more money to the Heat payroll so they can afford more talent. To be honest Wade or Bosh don't deserve 20 million anymore anyway. It's more of a chess move what they're doing or a power play by the genius Pat Riley.

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[Franchise408]

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You wanna bet that stuff doesn't happen in video games?

I forget what year it was, but there was one NFL franchise mode I did that had Peyton Manning getting released and signed by the Browns.

Another one that had Brett Favre (in his prime) traded to the Bucs.

I never said that LeBron would go to the Magic at any point in his career. I know he won't.

But it is a video game, and while we want it to be as realistic as possible, it will never be fully realistic. Some things will happen - like me being able to sign LeBron James to the Orlando Magic.

But honestly, that's part of the fun of the video game, we get to play these games and run these franchises like an alternate reality, so to speak.

I never understood people that want their season modes and franchise modes to line up perfectly with the sport. I want the on field / on court product to be as realistic as possible, but I'm not interested in ensuring the front office stuff plays out entirely perfect. I like watching this new little world unfold in front of me.

[buckeyestilidie3]

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You wanna bet that stuff doesn't happen in video games?

I forget what year it was, but there was one NFL franchise mode I did that had Peyton Manning getting released and signed by the Browns.

Another one that had Brett Favre (in his prime) traded to the Bucs.

I never said that LeBron would go to the Magic at any point in his career. I know he won't.

But it is a video game, and while we want it to be as realistic as possible, it will never be fully realistic. Some things will happen - like me being able to sign LeBron James to the Orlando Magic.

But honestly, that's part of the fun of the video game, we get to play these games and run these franchises like an alternate reality, so to speak.

I never understood people that want their season modes and franchise modes to line up perfectly with the sport. I want the on field / on court product to be as realistic as possible, but I'm not interested in ensuring the front office stuff plays out entirely perfect. I like watching this new little world unfold in front of me.

Favre getting traded doesn't mean they're entering a rebuilding phase, yet I digress. You did say it would be on the realm of possibility if they had all the pieces you mentioned, but realistically it's not. I enjoy being able to sign people who normally wouldn't in real life as I'm an Ohio everything fan. I was simply saying with enough money any team could sign anybody, but I guess with everyone choosing to hate on LeBron they wouldn't be able to read that clearly.

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