EA Still Owns the NFL License Exclusively

[Dirk5049ers]

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Regardless of anyones opinion of him, and I do tend to disagree with Florio sometimes as well, he does have a large audience. He appears on TV and radio all the time and a lot of people have the PFT app because they usually are only 2nd to Twitter at getting news out the fastest. It just feels good to not get the same drone message ESPN and the NFL Network gives us when discussing Madden.

[mellamoaaron]

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Just a hunch, but I doubt Florio has actually sat down and played Madden ever.

Anyway, I think Madden is a pretty good VIDEO GAME representation of what goes on in the football field, in fact since 2012 they have been improving the game at a pretty rapid pace considering their time constraints. I was a fan of 2K5 and I think it played a pretty good game of football but Madden eclipses it now and has eclipsed it for the past few years. People won't admit it, but the cool thing to do is to hate on Madden and it's a loud minority of people. Madden's sales have went down incrementally as has the whole game industry's, but I'd say the people who are voting with their dollars are saying they are liking what they are offering.

My major qualm with Madden though is that the game needs POLISH. That's something the PS2 era games had that the PS3 era didn't. Up until 2012 Maddens still felt way too rough around the edges and they have been doing a better job at trying to fix legacy issues and make the game feel more complete, but I still think there is room for improvement. 15 looks like it's going to be absolutely amazing and if it improves on 25 which was a very solid game then I will be happy.

Right now I'm higher on Madden 15 than I am on NBA 2K15 after how badly 2K screwed up their game modes on 2K14 and how the passing still is absolute garbage.

[SageInfinite]

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2k5 on the field I think is more debatable if Madden has surpassed it or not. APF 2k8 I still don't think Madden is close.

Personally idk why anyone would feel "cool" hating on Madden.

Personally, I think people just have to realize alot of people that have complaints about Madden understand it's a "video game", lol. We just know that other "video games" have had things that Madden has yet to add, and things that Madden still does not do adequately on the field. A majority of people aren't asking for unreasonable requests from the Tiburon team. Maybe they are unreasonable for the talent level at EA/Tiburon.

[GiantBlue76]

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2k5 on the field I think is more debatable if Madden has surpassed it or not. APF 2k8 I still don't think Madden is close.

Personally idk why anyone would feel "cool" hating on Madden.

Personally, I think people just have to personally realize alot of people that have complaints about Madden understand it's a "video game", lol. We just know that other "video games" have had things that Madden has yet to add, and things that Madden still does not do adequately on the field. A majority of people aren't asking for unreasonable requests from the Tiburon team. Maybe they are unreasonable for the talent level at EA/Tiburon.

This ^^^. I challenge anyone to this:

let's say you bought a car in 2001 - brand new. It had power windows, locks, mirrors, steering, ABS, leather and a 10 disc changer with MP3 aux support and it cost you 25k. Fast forward to 2010. The same car comes out with a new model for that year. This model does not have power windows, locks, mirrors, or ABS - but it does have power steering. The cost of this new car is 30k. You mean to tell me that you are going to happily buy that new car, which basically goes backwards and has less than what you had 10 years prior AND costs more money? Are you really going to tell your wife, "it's ok hon, they tried really hard in making this car. I realize the brakes don't work as well, there are no power locks, mirrors or ABS, and it has a much lower quality sound system, but you know, they tried really hard in making the car. Let's buy it anyway."

There is a difference between being a person who is just wanting to hate EA/Madden and being a sensible consumer who doesn't want to be raked over the coals on a yearly basis. EA and the NFL are the ones who decided to make this bed of exclusivity, NOT the consumer. Take away choice and product quality levels, and this is what you will get for the foreseeable future. The majority of the "complaints" are warranted, and no reasonable person is asking for the moon. I just want AT LEAST what I had 10 years ago on and off the field. Right now I still have neither.

Undeniably, progress is being made. The game is no longer "terrible". However, that doesn't cut it. As a consumer, I don't care about past development errors, leadership changes, internal strife, financial burdens and other nonsense that is on the shoulders of Tiburon. Don't care, don't want to hear it, don't need to hear it. The progress is still insanely slow and the implementations are still relatively poor. Things do not work nearly as well as they should. The CFM mode is incredibly underwhelming, and does not replicate much of what team management is like. Madden's franchise mode from 10 years earlier is FAR better, and the insanely awesome weekly prep that was done in 2k's franchise mode was great. These were things modeled after real life, not some crazy, invented idea that came out of someone's head that probably doesn't even watch or follow NFL football.

[HealyMonster]

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This ^^^. I challenge anyone to this:

let's say you bought a car in 2001 - brand new. It had power windows, locks, mirrors, steering, ABS, leather and a 10 disc changer with MP3 aux support and it cost you 25k. Fast forward to 2010. The same car comes out with a new model for that year. This model does not have power windows, locks, mirrors, or ABS - but it does have power steering. The cost of this new car is 30k. You mean to tell me that you are going to happily buy that new car, which basically goes backwards and has less than what you had 10 years prior AND costs more money? Are you really going to tell your wife, "it's ok hon, they tried really hard in making this car. I realize the brakes don't work as well, there are no power locks, mirrors or ABS, and it has a much lower quality sound system, but you know, they tried really hard in making the car. Let's buy it anyway."

There is a difference between being a person who is just wanting to hate EA/Madden and being a sensible consumer who doesn't want to be raked over the coals on a yearly basis. EA and the NFL are the ones who decided to make this bed of exclusivity, NOT the consumer. Take away choice and product quality levels, and this is what you will get for the foreseeable future. The majority of the "complaints" are warranted, and no reasonable person is asking for the moon. I just want AT LEAST what I had 10 years ago on and off the field. Right now I still have neither.

Undeniably, progress is being made. The game is no longer "terrible". However, that doesn't cut it. As a consumer, I don't care about past development errors, leadership changes, internal strife, financial burdens and other nonsense that is on the shoulders of Tiburon. Don't care, don't want to hear it, don't need to hear it. The progress is still insanely slow and the implementations are still relatively poor. Things do not work nearly as well as they should. The CFM mode is incredibly underwhelming, and does not replicate much of what team management is like. Madden's franchise mode from 10 years earlier is FAR better, and the insanely awesome weekly prep that was done in 2k's franchise mode was great. These were things modeled after real life, not some crazy, invented idea that came out of someone's head that probably doesn't even watch or follow NFL football.

Awesome post. I'm with you on all counts .

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This ^^^. I challenge anyone to this:

let's say you bought a car in 2001 - brand new. It had power windows, locks, mirrors, steering, ABS, leather and a 10 disc changer with MP3 aux support and it cost you 25k. Fast forward to 2010. The same car comes out with a new model for that year. This model does not have power windows, locks, mirrors, or ABS - but it does have power steering. The cost of this new car is 30k. You mean to tell me that you are going to happily buy that new car, which basically goes backwards and has less than what you had 10 years prior AND costs more money? Are you really going to tell your wife, "it's ok hon, they tried really hard in making this car. I realize the brakes don't work as well, there are no power locks, mirrors or ABS, and it has a much lower quality sound system, but you know, they tried really hard in making the car. Let's buy it anyway."

There is a difference between being a person who is just wanting to hate EA/Madden and being a sensible consumer who doesn't want to be raked over the coals on a yearly basis. EA and the NFL are the ones who decided to make this bed of exclusivity, NOT the consumer. Take away choice and product quality levels, and this is what you will get for the foreseeable future. The majority of the "complaints" are warranted, and no reasonable person is asking for the moon. I just want AT LEAST what I had 10 years ago on and off the field. Right now I still have neither.

Undeniably, progress is being made. The game is no longer "terrible". However, that doesn't cut it. As a consumer, I don't care about past development errors, leadership changes, internal strife, financial burdens and other nonsense that is on the shoulders of Tiburon. Don't care, don't want to hear it, don't need to hear it. The progress is still insanely slow and the implementations are still relatively poor. Things do not work nearly as well as they should. The CFM mode is incredibly underwhelming, and does not replicate much of what team management is like. Madden's franchise mode from 10 years earlier is FAR better, and the insanely awesome weekly prep that was done in 2k's franchise mode was great. These were things modeled after real life, not some crazy, invented idea that came out of someone's head that probably doesn't even watch or follow NFL football.

Sir I would say until you guys collectively stop supporting this series completely this will continue year after year. Sure they have the license for 2 more years but then what? They'll just pony up more cash and do it all over again.

[iLLWiLL]

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Somehow the likelihood of getting to play a new NFL-licensed 2K game is beginning to feel eerily similar to being an Eagles fan and getting a Superbowl win -- year after year, you have faith...but then it just never happens

[Kaiser Wilhelm]

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Somehow the likelihood of getting to play a new NFL-licensed 2K game is beginning to feel eerily similar to being an Eagles fan and getting a Superbowl win -- year after year, you have faith...but then it just never happens

Or like being a Bills fan and earning a playoff birth.

[ODogg]

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I'm going to keep buying Madden but I do hope 2K somehow comes back, competition is great for gamers no matter what game you enjoy. Madden was always best when it was heavily challenged.

[chronoxiong]

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Yawn. No wonder why the Madden games are still boring as hell. There needs to be competition. I miss the competition and the style of 2K's NFL games. This is lame...

[Skyboxer]

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I'm going to keep buying Madden but I do hope 2K somehow comes back, competition is great for gamers no matter what game you enjoy. Madden was always best when it was heavily challenged.

Same here. I'm afraid though that in the rest of my lifetime all I'll have is Madden.
Sad thing is I'd still buy both if 2K was still around. So it's not like EA was losing my $ due to 2K.
Just like I used to grab all baseball games. As a sports guy I simply couldn't resist seeing what each had to offer.

[ODogg]

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There's no shortage of completion in Madden online lots of negative things can be said about Madden but shortage of opponents isn't one of them. And this year the presentation and emotion looks to be much better, at least on next gen systems..

[Artman22]

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I posted this in the 2k football license thread, but why doesn't 2k make an NCAA football game?


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[Cryolemon]

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I posted this in the 2k football license thread, but why doesn't 2k make an NCAA football game?


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I doubt anyone is going to touch a college game until the O'Bannon case is 100% resolved.

And on topic, EA and the NFL are never going to get rid of the exclusive license.

[Valdarez]

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Don't see the exclusive license every going away until leadership at NFLPA / NFL changes in key positions. If you guys remember NFLPA gave Madden team a sweatheart deal, saving them millions, even though their goal should have been to represent he NFL Players and maximize their profits/returns. When you see emails like that come out it leads a person to believe there's collusion and possibly back door shenanigans going on. As long as the key players that pushed this through (and no idea who those people are) are in place, and EA is able to get the NFLPA to put EA's interest ahead of the football players, this license agreement will never change.