Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (SimFBallCritic)

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Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (SimFBallCritic)

25 was the first year with Cam & Rex working together and the first year that they were able to implement things that were part of the plan. Rex said it himself, 15 is year two. Rex wasnt even there until 25.

You would make one hell of an attorney for EA...

[SamuraiX]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (SimFBallCritic)

I'm really not sure why people are surprised that he's saying you have to play the game to notice the difference. It was just last year where people were saying Madden 25 next gen looked exactly like current gen and then after the game came out people were like oh ok I see the difference now, it's an improvement, a step in the right direction. 15 is another jump in that same way, 16 will probably be a bigger jump(more dev cycle time) and IMO the game where things will come together for most people to truly understand the shift that's happening. Rex said last year that he compares it to turning around an aircraft carrier, it was also said that 25 was the first year of the "3 year plan". 15 is the second, if 16 isn't that game we've been wanting all along, then we should probably write this team off. Until then, people are just jumping to conclusions based on the past.

As far as why we are only seeing Seattle and SF, it's because those were the only two teams that EA was finished working on with player models, faces, equipment, etc...as of E3.

I do believe the Seahawks have the "new" Nike shoes that we saw a pic of back in Madden 13 blog.

Duuuuuuuuuuuude come on! You said this SAME EXACT THING last year when 25 was coming out. "If Madden 15 isn't the greatest then I'm losing all hope". Now it's 16? Geez man.

Until then, people are just jumping to conclusions based on the past.

And drawing conclusions based on past experiences is something most intelligent people do.

[The_Balm]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (SimFBallCritic)

The canned animations is killing the game, when a tackle animation starts surrounding defenders just stop playing when they should attempt to help out on the tackle, the user controlling the game can just stop playing too once a tackle animation starts they play is over. The on field presentation is nice though.

This drives be crazy! For years EA has talked about how you can now branch out of tackle animations, but all the time you get those animations when AI knows that you are going down 100% of the time and they stop. Like the one where you're stumbling and the defense just starts backing away from the ballcarrier or the one where one defender spins you around. Many of the animations look like you could breakout of them in real life too.

[jpdavis82]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (SimFBallCritic)

Duuuuuuuuuuuude come on! You said this SAME EXACT THING last year when 25 was coming out. "If Madden 15 isn't the greatest then I'm losing all hope". Now it's 16? Geez man.


And drawing conclusions based on past experiences is something most intelligent people do.

I understand, but, I didn't realize that 15 would be the first true next gen title, 15 is basically turning out to be what I thought/ was led to believe, that 25 would be. 25 ended up being a port, so I'm giving them one more year to deliver that title we've been wanting. With that being said, I have a feeling once 15 drops many of you will be pleasantly surprised once you actually play it. Read the gameplay impressions article from drifter bub of tradition sports, he couldn't stand 25 and was pretty impressed with 15 in many ways. I look forward to reading what many of you have to say once you actually play the game and aren't just watching a YouTube video of an alpha build game. There were quite a few people who said some pretty harsh things about 25 next gen and once they played it, actually enjoyed it, I expect that number to be even higher this time.

Bottom line, 16 is the third year of the 3 year plan and I expect nothing less than excellence and there's no excuses for anything less.

Oh and as far as past conclusions, show me a team with the leadership and vision supporting sim football from 2006 until Cam Weber came. This team inherited a mess of a game, it's their job to fix the last 7 years of garbage, does anyone here realistically think thats possible in 1-2 years? When has a game that has so many issues and problems, gone from poor to phenomenal in that amount of time? Now just watch, in the next year or two what happens, greatness is around the corner. Madden was always a AAA title before 2006, so lets not pretend that greatness is beyond the Madden name.

[Malcd9583]

I understand, but, I didn't realize that 15 would be the first true next gen title, 15 is basically turning out to be what I thought/ was led to believe, that 25 would be. 25 ended up being a port, so I'm giving them one more year to deliver that title we've been wanting. With that being said, I have a feeling once 15 drops many of you will be pleasantly surprised once you actually play it. Read the gameplay impressions article from drifter bub of tradition sports, he couldn't stand 25 and was pretty impressed with 15 in many ways. I look forward to reading what many of you have to say once you actually play the game and aren't just watching a YouTube video of an alpha build game. There were quite a few people who said some pretty harsh things about 25 next gen and once they played it, actually enjoyed it, I expect that number to be even higher this time.

Bottom line, 16 is the third year of the 3 year plan and I expect nothing less than excellence and there's no excuses for anything less.

Oh and as far as past conclusions, show me a team with the leadership and vision supporting sim football from 2006 until Cam Weber came. This team inherited a mess of a game, it's their job to fix the last 7 years of garbage, does anyone here realistically think thats possible in 1-2 years? When has a game that has so many issues and problems, gone from poor to phenomenal in that amount of time? Now just watch, in the next year or two what happens, greatness is around the corner. Madden was always a AAA title before 2006, so lets not pretend that greatness is beyond the Madden name.

Are you a competitive online player or do you play against the cpu?

[schnaidt1]

i cant do it anymore....i only made it 3 minutes into that video before having to turn it off....i wasted 3 minutes of my life to find out what i already knew...this is the same trash madden since 07.....player movement is scripted and unrealistic.....ball physics are atrocious. players move to fast for the movements they are making...nothing about it looks for feels improved or realistic in what we should have if you compare it to what 2k15..mlb the show. ....the game looks pretty....ill give it that.....but this is the 7th year in a row they havent listened to the fans and gave us what we want...what a bunch of bull.

[Kramer5150]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (SimFBallCritic)

I understand, but, I didn't realize that 15 would be the first true next gen title, 15 is basically turning out to be what I thought/ was led to believe, that 25 would be. 25 ended up being a port, so I'm giving them one more year to deliver that title we've been wanting. With that being said, I have a feeling once 15 drops many of you will be pleasantly surprised once you actually play it. Read the gameplay impressions article from drifter bub of tradition sports, he couldn't stand 25 and was pretty impressed with 15 in many ways. I look forward to reading what many of you have to say once you actually play the game and aren't just watching a YouTube video of an alpha build game. There were quite a few people who said some pretty harsh things about 25 next gen and once they played it, actually enjoyed it, I expect that number to be even higher this time.

Bottom line, 16 is the third year of the 3 year plan and I expect nothing less than excellence and there's no excuses for anything less.

Oh and as far as past conclusions, show me a team with the leadership and vision supporting sim football from 2006 until Cam Weber came. This team inherited a mess of a game, it's their job to fix the last 7 years of garbage, does anyone here realistically think thats possible in 1-2 years? When has a game that has so many issues and problems, gone from poor to phenomenal in that amount of time? Now just watch, in the next year or two what happens, greatness is around the corner. Madden was always a AAA title before 2006, so lets not pretend that greatness is beyond the Madden name.

I cannot believe this,I'm just utterly speechless at this point.

So much backtracking here,I,I just can't believe it..

[jpdavis82]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (SimFBallCritic)

i cant do it anymore....i only made it 3 minutes into that video before having to turn it off....i wasted 3 minutes of my life to find out what i already knew...this is the same trash madden since 07.....player movement is scripted and unrealistic.....ball physics are atrocious. players move to fast for the movements they are making...nothing about it looks for feels improved or realistic in what we should have if you compare it to what 2k15..mlb the show. ....the game looks pretty....ill give it that.....but this is the 7th year in a row they havent listened to the fans and gave us what we want...what a bunch of bull.

Same since 07????? I think you need a reminder

http://youtu.be/1fWDMRXJhn4

[jpdavis82]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (SimFBallCritic)

Are you a competitive online player or do you play against the cpu?

Vs CPU the majority of the time, online too.

[FBall Life]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (SimFBallCritic)

Bottom line, 16 is the third year of the 3 year plan and I expect nothing less than excellence and there's no excuses for anything less.

Why do you keep saying this? Just because you believe it doesn't make it a fact! We have factual information. Look at the quotes and links provided earlier. It's a FACT, regardless of what you believe, that the last three year plan started with Madden 12!

[MAGboyswifT27]

There's going to be positives and negatives to the game, we all know that. But I'm probably more anxious for the game because this year we don't have a NCAA title to keep us busy until Madden comes out. I don't have my 360 or NCAA anymore so Madden 25 is going to have to give me company until Madden 15 drops.

[poopie]

It shouldn't take 3 years...If u look at the leap 2k made from 2k3 to 2k4 it was a quick turnaround a totally different game and it was even better the next year...and on lesser powered systems....either EA is playing us or the people in charge are incompetent...MLB the show started out great from day one and has gotten better and better every year...The Madden engine is broken..PERIOD...I enjoy football just as much as anyone else...but this isn't a good replication of the sport

[roadman]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (SimFBallCritic)

Why do you keep saying this? Just because you believe it doesn't make it a fact! We have factual information. Look at the quotes and links provided earlier. It's a FACT, regardless of what you believe, that the last three year plan started with Madden 12!

And the one before that started in 09 and the one before that started in 06.

That's why I don't put much credence to these 3 yr plan crappola's.

Whenever a new regime comes in, a new and improved 3 yr plan is mapped out.

It's all marketing.

I don't judge 3 yr plans, I take it year by year.

PS- Also, Cam Weber came in the middle of 12. Heck, the ideas were already hatched out and the game was already in Beta by then.

I don't really consider 12 Cam Weber's vision of Madden.

[FBall Life]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (SimFBallCritic)

I don't really consider 12 Cam Weber's vision of Madden.

Regardless, Cam stated HIMSELF that 12 was the first year of a three year plan. So that's that.

[OhMrHanky]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (SimFBallCritic)

Not that it matters, 3 yr plan, when it started, who was in charge, etc. But, I have to say I think it was 10-12. That was a 3 year cycle with the same engine. I don't care who was in charge when, but 13 introduced a completely new/different engine than they had ever used. So, for me, 13 was absolutely the beginning of a 'cycle'. So, 15 would be the 3rd year. So, I'm assuming 16 will go back to pro-tak and completely scrap the infinity RTP engine. Lol. I hope not. I hope they keep improving here. But, hearing someone say the current cycle started with 12 just doesn't work. Sadly, whether they do RTP or canned animations (or, a mix of both which is what we seem to have now), they seem to be using the same AI logic from madden 92. Lol. The same pursuit angles, the same underlying base gameplay. I actually think 15 looks good so far and am actually looking forward to playing it, but there is definitely something inherent, underneath all the covers that make the AI the hardest thing for the developers to get right.


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