[jpdavis82]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jerros

Well, here's the thing. If it were mere presentation and minor gameplay issues like delayed controller responses or just a few game glitches that required fixing in Madden, that would be a significant cut to the ridiculously long list of issues. But, you need to consider the inherent problems of what Madden is trying to replicate, FOOTBALL. Anyone that knows REAL X's and O's football fundamentals will tell you why Madden is such a broken mess. No need to be a gameplay programming expert for that. There are plenty of people in the community that know the true ends and outs of REAL football that are more than qualified to voice their opinion on Madden. Honestly, I could care less about the game looking pretty at this point. But, to be fair, it looks better but it's still not on par with TRUE next gen graphics. Hell, even an old title like APF 2k8 has minor cloth physics. M15 is still behind on that, All they did was add a bunch of industry standard normal mapped wrinkles to the jerseys with better lighting. The players sizes have been adjusted a bit but it's still the same stiff animations engine that distracts you from said improvements. In a perfect world EA would just trash that ignite crap and rebuild Madden from the ground up to match the new tech ot today's consoles. But back to my point. For anyone who has ever played organized football, it is IMPOSSIBLE to ignore broken mechanics, improper techniques, smoke and mirrors line play and ridiculous A.I. that Madden tries to present as real football logic. And before anyone tries to give some speech about it being a video game that should have a few glitches and play a little arcadey. Let me go back to the statement Mr. Rex Dickson himself made at E3. He was adamant that they are making a football SIMULATION. So with that said, I don't see how it's unreasonable for those of us in the community that are simheads to expect exactly that. Unfortunately Madden in it's current state is nothing of the sort. And all the many glitches it does have only amplifies that fact. Again, it goes way beyond minor gameplay fixes and presentation. Lets get the football fundamentals and logic fixed first and foremost. Because in RL football there is no spamming money plays and running the same nano-blitz BS over and over. Players taking poor angles or DBs using the wrong stance in the wrong coverage. Little crap like that should have been eliminated from the game by now. Truly sad that an old game like APF got a lot of those nuances right. How many of you guys get frustrated when you see an O-linemen running as fast as a receiver or DB? Seriously EA? Player stats are meaningless and only for show. And don't get me started on the penalty system or lack there of. Seriously, I could go on and on about the list of problems. But I like many others just want the damn game fixed to accurately replicate the sport we love. If EA is going to be the only game on the block then I want it to make me forget past games like 2k5 or any other title from the past. As it stands, it's really sad that Madden has been in existence for 25 + years and all we get are roster updates, same stiff animation system, sloppy football physics and logic, and refurbished features from past games. Simply unacceptable.

You can't compare M15 to 2k5 graphically come on now!