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  • RandyBass
    MVP
    • Dec 2009
    • 1179

    #61
    Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (Smitty)

    Haven't been paying attention to much of the videos, and watching this one the first thing that jumps out is just what other people are saying: it looks very unnatural, the way the players move, etc. Every now and then you'll see something that look pretty decent, but overall it does not look good.

    The thing that probably irks me the most is the look of the passes, it doesn't have that natural looking loft that you see in real life. This is especially apparent on deep balls. I realize not everyone can throw a ball like Warren Moon, but generally speaking there is a beauty to a ball in flight, and you just don't see that in Madden. In Madden it's ugly.

    Just can't get excited about this game. They're not bringing it.

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    • RandyBass
      MVP
      • Dec 2009
      • 1179

      #62
      Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (Smitty)

      Originally posted by kehlis
      I'm on FB, Instagram and Twitter. Why don't I see people going nuts over Madden 15?
      jpdavis82 appears to live in an alternate universe, so maybe that's why.

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      • kehlis
        Moderator
        • Jul 2008
        • 27738

        #63
        Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (Smitty)

        Originally posted by RandyBass
        jpdavis82 appears to live in an alternate universe, so maybe that's why.
        He's just overly optimistic and desperately wan'ts to be a gamechanger which is fine, the problem is anytime he's asked a question he can't answer (and I've asked a few) he just leaves the thread and ignores the question.

        I would love to believe in his optimism but he can never back it up which is what is troubling.


        Just go to his posts, you can see last year he made a post questioning how much someone had played M25 after admitting he hadn't played it yet but when questioned on that he stopped posting all together until about March of this year. I just take it for what it's worth at this point which is pretty much nothing.


        All that said, I DO hope he's right, and I DO hope this game will be great.
        Last edited by kehlis; 07-03-2014, 10:18 PM.

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        • kjcheezhead
          MVP
          • May 2009
          • 3118

          #64
          Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (Smitty)

          The first two plays just killed the video for me. The opening kick return had the blocker right in front of the return do a weird slide to start off and then just before the defender made the tackle number 44 could've blocked him but decided to double team some other guy instead.

          The next was another classic int sequence where the wr continues with outstretched hands while the db makes the pick unobstructed.

          Where are the errant throws? In all these vids I've seen 1 pass to Vernon Davis in the end zone that was off target. Everything else is a tipped pass, an int, or a completion.

          The more I watch, the less improvements I see. It's madden. Plain and simple. I'll hold off on picking up a ps4 until I see a game I really have to have. This isn't it.

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          • BizDevConglomerate
            Banned
            • Apr 2012
            • 284

            #65
            Originally posted by SageInfinite
            Interception animation was awful. I liked Kaep's throwing animation on the touchdown, seemed fluid, and the Boldin catch was kool.
            That TD should have never happened. Sherman glitched. He missed the underneath route and threw it up. This is the BS. IT looks great, sounds great. But the taking is trash, the AI competence is not up to par of the poster they are emulating and the running is to out of control. A defensive posture is competent of the val carrier and when to start his break down in order to tackle. Vice versa, the auto assist should kick in for the defender to show him down or animate his break down. Instead of blowing by the runner. The head needs to be on a swivel. Same with the back, he's not just sort sprinting to the fence, while sprinting the body form changes. Argggggh, anyway. Game like good was made under par. And today I blame the NFL. Since the news came out they have altered the game, it's not all EA sports fault. The NFL has ruined football gaming. So stop blaming EA. even I'd they came out with the best emulation ever, the NFL WOULD SAY NO! and change this so our game is represented politically correct. Not violent like it is.

            Bull

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            • BizDevConglomerate
              Banned
              • Apr 2012
              • 284

              #66
              I think it's time we stop paying for the other company to save us from this nightmare, and find out who will make a game period. Forget the license, just make a customizable game. OS, and the other gaming forums n need to raise this issue, they are in the circles. We aren't.

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              • jpdavis82
                All Star
                • Sep 2005
                • 8794

                #67
                Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (Smitty)

                Originally posted by BizDevConglomerate
                That TD should have never happened. Sherman glitched. He missed the underneath route and threw it up. This is the BS. IT looks great, sounds great. But the taking is trash, the AI competence is not up to par of the poster they are emulating and the running is to out of control. A defensive posture is competent of the val carrier and when to start his break down in order to tackle. Vice versa, the auto assist should kick in for the defender to show him down or animate his break down. Instead of blowing by the runner. The head needs to be on a swivel. Same with the back, he's not just sort sprinting to the fence, while sprinting the body form changes. Argggggh, anyway. Game like good was made under par. And today I blame the NFL. Since the news came out they have altered the game, it's not all EA sports fault. The NFL has ruined football gaming. So stop blaming EA. even I'd they came out with the best emulation ever, the NFL WOULD SAY NO! and change this so our game is represented politically correct. Not violent like it is.

                Bull
                That was a user controlling Sherman not AI, Smitty was upset because the guy he was playing switched to Sherman and he was trying to show how the improved AI reacts to passes like that. This was discussed tonight on TSS radio show. Both Sim & Smitty were saying the zone & man is extremely tough now and people will be surprised when they play it just how tough it is even on all pro.
                Last edited by jpdavis82; 07-04-2014, 02:55 AM.

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                • jpdavis82
                  All Star
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 8794

                  #68
                  Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (Smitty)

                  Originally posted by BizDevConglomerate
                  I think it's time we stop paying for the other company to save us from this nightmare, and find out who will make a game period. Forget the license, just make a customizable game. OS, and the other gaming forums n need to raise this issue, they are in the circles. We aren't.
                  EA is the company making a game and the dev team, at least now, is trying to make a simulation game, but it is going to take a liitle longer to get there. With 15 most people will understand what they're trying to do. With 16 it will become even more obvious.

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                  • Grey_Osprey
                    Pro
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 753

                    #69
                    Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (Smitty)

                    Originally posted by jpdavis82
                    EA is the company making a game and the dev team, at least now, is trying to make a simulation game, but it is going to take a liitle longer to get there. With 15 most people will understand what they're trying to do. With 16 it will become even more obvious.
                    Here we are on next gen systems and the game still has the same old ugly animations and legacy issues and is missing features that were available years ago in other games (some EA games) on older, less capable systems. And you are telling us to wait until next year. Again.

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                    • Mr.Smif
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 796

                      #70
                      Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (Smitty)

                      Originally posted by jpdavis82
                      Yeah apparently that was because the game didn't have the inaccuracies to trigger them and they say they trigger now.
                      From the videos ive seen, their is still no body catches or any catches where the receiver falls to the ground after catching an inaccurate pass or when attempting to catch a low thrown ball. From what ive seen all receivers still always land on their feet after a catch, accept for a rare dive. One of the most frequent catches in football if the forward dive for a low ball, Ive yet to see this catch animation in Madden.

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                      • Mr.Smif
                        Banned
                        • Jun 2014
                        • 796

                        #71
                        Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (Smitty)

                        Originally posted by kjcheezhead
                        The first two plays just killed the video for me. The opening kick return had the blocker right in front of the return do a weird slide to start off and then just before the defender made the tackle number 44 could've blocked him but decided to double team some other guy instead.

                        The next was another classic int sequence where the wr continues with outstretched hands while the db makes the pick unobstructed.

                        Where are the errant throws? In all these vids I've seen 1 pass to Vernon Davis in the end zone that was off target. Everything else is a tipped pass, an int, or a completion.

                        The more I watch, the less improvements I see. It's madden. Plain and simple. I'll hold off on picking up a ps4 until I see a game I really have to have. This isn't it.

                        Not to mention on that kick off return #20 didn't even attempt to help out on the tackle.

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                        • jmurphy31
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 2803

                          #72
                          Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (Smitty)

                          One small negative.

                          They need to remove the basketball celebration after a pass break up. It's at least the third time I've seen. Just doesn't fit. Almost like the air guitar last year after a TD.

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                          • jpdavis82
                            All Star
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 8794

                            #73
                            Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (Smitty)

                            Originally posted by Grey_Osprey
                            Here we are on next gen systems and the game still has the same old ugly animations and legacy issues and is missing features that were available years ago in other games (some EA games) on older, less capable systems. And you are telling us to wait until next year. Again.
                            The game has improved quite a bit, if it is balanced and fundamentally pretty sound, why can't 15 be a good balanced fb game? The animations don't change the way the game plays, just how it looks. I think most people will be pretty pleased once 15 drops and they can play it for themselves.

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                            • jpdavis82
                              All Star
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 8794

                              #74
                              Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (Smitty)

                              Originally posted by Mr.Smif
                              From the videos ive seen, their is still no body catches or any catches where the receiver falls to the ground after catching an inaccurate pass or when attempting to catch a low thrown ball. From what ive seen all receivers still always land on their feet after a catch, accept for a rare dive. One of the most frequent catches in football if the forward dive for a low ball, Ive yet to see this catch animation in Madden.
                              I've seen dive & body catches, I've also seen pileups, consecutive hit tackles, theres a reach tackle at 10:26 in Shopmaster's video by Justin Smith, dbs run sideways with WRs and open inside or outside depending on play, and I've seen two DBs dive for a tipped ball in a realistic fashion. Some of you are trained to look for the negative, I bet most of you haven't even seen some of the things I just mentioned and this is just the alpha build.

                              Here's the link for the video with the teach tackle, 10:26
                              Last edited by jpdavis82; 07-04-2014, 07:24 AM.

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                              • Demoncrom
                                Rookie
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 118

                                #75
                                Originally posted by BezO
                                Word!!!

                                When I 1st saw this vid, I realized why the animations are so bad. No determination, no struggle. The animations are too scripted. "OK, let's get a pancack animation. Go!" So the guy getting pancaked provides no resistance. They should instead let guys battle and record what happens.
                                No, they they should have already done to a realistic tacking model. BackBreaker had a lot wrong but the bases of how tacking looked in the at game was right. Men colliding into each out with different results depending on angle of hit, speed of players and mass.

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