Madden NFL 15 Video & Blog - War In The Trenches 2.0

[kjcheezhead]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Video & Blog - War In The Trenches 2.0

The people spending hundreds of dollars on micro transactions are speaking with their wallets about their approval for the game. That argument - giving EA money implies gamer happiness with game - by definition must cut both ways.

Not really. Say there are four football fans that could potentially buy Madden. 3 say the game isn't good or want other options and choose not to buy. The other not only buys the game but spends another 200 on MUT during the season.

We have a situation where 75% percent of football fans are unhappy with the game or lack of choices but Maddens overall revenue is exactly the same.

Overall revenue is not an indicator of overall popularity.

[iLLWiLL]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Video & Blog - War In The Trenches 2.0

For me this game will be truly next gen when they gut all of the last gen and legacy animations out and replace them with new stuff. When Madden 2001 for PS2 dropped there was nothing on field that resembled PS1. I need that feeling back.

That's because Madden for the PSX/N64/Saturn gen were monumentally BAD. Crap they were still using 3D "sprites" in Madden 2000...and the gameplay ridiculously slow, ballcarriers would fall by hardly being touched, and the sound was pathetic. Don't know how the hell the franchise even survived through that gen with great games like 2K, Gameday, and even lesser ones like Quarterback's Club...

[roadman]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Video & Blog - War In The Trenches 2.0

Not really. Say there are four football fans that could potentially buy Madden. 3 say the game isn't good or want other options and choose not to buy. The other not only buys the game but spends another 200 on MUT during the season.

We have a situation where 75% percent of football fans are unhappy with the game or lack of choices but Maddens overall revenue is exactly the same.

Overall revenue is not an indicator of overall popularity.

And on the flip side of that KJ, you could also say 75% of video game fans are happy with the game.

Just saying.

[The JareBear]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Video & Blog - War In The Trenches 2.0

I guess I'm different than most in that I dont like that much control. If I choose power, I dont mind having the AI decide wither its a bull or a rip rush. I just want the best power move based on the scenario.

I am like you in this regard. I know that there are people who want to have total control of their players though, I wonder if EA can provide options for this at some point, like a "normal control scheme" vs "advanced control scheme" or something like that.

[BigD]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Video & Blog - War In The Trenches 2.0

Looks OK, but it's just so sad and such a let down to see the same one on one tackle animations we've seen for 10 years.

[BezO]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Video & Blog - War In The Trenches 2.0

I guess I'm different than most in that I dont like that much control. If I choose power, I dont mind having the AI decide wither its a bull or a rip rush. I just want the best power move based on the scenario.

Funny. I see those particular moves as trying to accomplish 2 different things and would want separate controls.

Definitely not knocking it though.

[Greenblood60]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Video & Blog - War In The Trenches 2.0

The people spending hundreds of dollars on micro transactions are speaking with their wallets about their approval for the game. That argument - giving EA money implies gamer happiness with game - by definition must cut both ways.

That's not necessarily true. Decreasing sales ( eventually ) means less micro transactions. Increased sales mean more money from sales and more micro transactions. Madden used to sell 8-9 million copies a year. Now they're selling 4-5 million copies a year. Two years from now, maybe they're topping out between 3-4 million. Eventually, MUT won't be able to make up for that, and since MUT brings in so much revenue, that also may light a fire under EA's butt. More sales equals more potential microtransactions.

[mestevo]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Video & Blog - War In The Trenches 2.0

That's not necessarily true. Decreasing sales ( eventually ) means less micro transactions. Increased sales mean more money from sales and more micro transactions. Madden used to sell 8-9 million copies a year. Now they're selling 4-5 million copies a year. Two years from now, maybe they're topping out between 3-4 million. Eventually, MUT won't be able to make up for that, and since MUT brings in so much revenue, that also may light a fire under EA's butt. More sales equals more potential microtransactions.

That's what if's on top of speculation on top of what if's though. We don't have any data to make any of these judgements, determine actual sales, break even, profitability, etc - positively or negatively about the sales. Just week 1 numbers.

Part of the pointlessness of even bringing it up outside of sourced reports, earnings data and NPD speculation.

[jyoung]

Re: Madden NFL 15 - War In The Trenches 2.0 Gameplay Trailer

Take it a step further. Could you imagine a full NFL league where each player is someone online?

Get 32 "player-owners" who can sign you to their team? Online free agency where the best players get the best contracts (for bragging purposes, probably). Hell, there are Madden tournaments for real money now. Turn it into the Madden Football League, games are played certain days of the week.... my mind just keeps going

Now that's the future.

NHL 14 on the Xbox 360/PS3 actually already has something similar to this in its GM Connected mode.

It's structured like a normal online franchise mode (manage salaries, drafts, minor league prospects, free agents, etc.), except that when you actually play your season games, all 12 of the players on the ice can be user controlled.

So say for example, we had 6 Pittsburgh Penguins fans from OS, they could all play together on the same Penguins team, in a full league against other 6-man teams.

I just hope that they don't dumb down that mode any for the PS4/Xbox One release of NHL 15.

[hanzsomehanz]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Video & Blog - War In The Trenches 2.0

...And I hate that there are just 2 buttons, finesse & power. How do I spin vs swim, rip vs bull rush, etc?

I am going to take a venture and say the right stick still has usability in the pass rush game, like the playmaker feature for QB's that still exists but is no longer promoted in the manual.

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[hanzsomehanz]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Video & Blog - War In The Trenches 2.0

I am like you in this regard. I know that there are people who want to have total control of their players though, I wonder if EA can provide options for this at some point, like a "normal control scheme" vs "advanced control scheme" or something like that.

The RT Analog Stick is the advanced control; the face buttons are the conservative controls.

I am venturing to guess that the RT stick will still have play in the pass rush much like it will in the tackle game in combination with the new face button controls for agressove vs conservative tackles.

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[hanzsomehanz]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Video & Blog - War In The Trenches 2.0

That's not necessarily true. Decreasing sales ( eventually ) means less micro transactions. Increased sales mean more money from sales and more micro transactions. Madden used to sell 8-9 million copies a year. Now they're selling 4-5 million copies a year. Two years from now, maybe they're topping out between 3-4 million. Eventually, MUT won't be able to make up for that, and since MUT brings in so much revenue, that also may light a fire under EA's butt. More sales equals more potential microtransactions.

While I support your premise: sales = consumption; more sales does not neccessarily reveal what the product is used for.

If for some reason there is some free to play mode that has no microtransaction offers on the table but creates a buzz: sales may increase out of interest for that mode: CFM or Team Play are examples while MUT revenue still remain the same or even goes down.

Sales represent initial interest and anythig thereafter is speculation on how the consumer spends their time and money on the game.

In respect to MUT, their revenue lines will eventually level, if they have not already, and may even plummet: that would be more devestating than declining sales.

FWIW, I believe MUT's inception was M12 - it is going into its 4th season and I know as a member of that community that MUT gamers are becoming more and more abhorrent towards Madden's slanted microtransaction schemes.

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[CaliDude916]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Video & Blog - War In The Trenches 2.0

This looks good. It's gonna be fun controlling Aldon Smith.

[Whaaaazuuuuup]

Re: Madden NFL 15 - War In The Trenches 2.0 Gameplay Trailer

I liked the video and think this is an improvement over what has been there but two questions.

2) At what point will Player Sense be fleshed out enough so blockers show awareness of being beat? Maybe it's because there aren't any good "beat" animations for blockers but the fact that as soon as a blocker is beat, they just instantly keep looking ahead/heading forward, with no awareness of a defender just got by them, really stands out, in a bad way.

from the videos it looks like the oline will continue to looks ahead once theyre beaten rather than make a second effort. its been this way for ever with madden and truly hurts the realism of trench battles

[Only1LT]

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I don't think that anyone was saying that increased sales are directly proportional to increased MUT transactions. I don't see how it can reasonably be argued that the more copies of Madden in consumer hands, equals more potential for microtransactions, however.

This is the very reason that Google gives their OS away. They want it and its embedded advertising platform in as many hands as possible.

So if, and I say if, I'm not saying for sure anyone asserted this though it seemed like it might have been implied, but if someone thinks that EA/Tiburon is somewhat ok with sales slipping as long as MUT makes up the difference, then they could not be more wrong.