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  • Steve_OS
    Editor-in-Chief
    • Jul 2002
    • 33266

    #1

    What Really Killed NCAA Football? The Lawsuit or the Lack of a Playoff?



    Checking in today with his personal take on the lack of NCAA Football this summer, Owen Good writes that it won't be the lawsuit that does the series in, it will be the lack of a playoff option in old games.

    "And nothing will give it the College Football Playoff, or any game mode resembling the four-team finals that begin with this year's postseason. It would have been intriguing to see it handled by this series,which had always done a smooth job of making the human-voted aspects of college football seem lifelike (even to the point of believably screwing have-nots out of big bowl bids or ignoring their players for big honors.)

    That's a big blow to a series that was, in hindsight, still one of the most cunningly future-proofed titles in licensed sports video gaming, thanks to a number of key features."

    What do you think about the lack of a playoff option in NCAA? Are you going to play last year's game with updated rosters?
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  • grabursock55
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    • Nov 2011
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    #2
    Re: A lawsuit isn't what really killed NCAA Football; the lack of a playoff did

    Originally posted by Steve_OS


    Checking in today with his personal take on the lack of NCAA Football this summer, Owen Good writes that it won't be the lawsuit that does the series in, it will be the lack of a playoff option in old games.


    What do you think about the lack of a playoff option in NCAA? Are you going to play last year's game with updated rosters?

    We dont really have much of a choice...

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    • boxboy99
      MVP
      • Feb 2006
      • 2331

      #3
      I disagree with the article. If NCAA 15 came out with the old system, I would still be the first in line. I have near 300 games of 14 under my belt. Game play wise, it is difficult to fire up 14 because: 1) I feel like there is nothing new to see. 2) I have a PS4. Ncaa was always my go to game. I have been playing with the same group of guys for 20 years, so it is sad to see it go.
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      • radney
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        • Dec 2009
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        #4
        Originally posted by boxboy99
        I disagree with the article. If NCAA 15 came out with the old system, I would still be the first in line. I have near 300 games of 14 under my belt. Game play wise, it is difficult to fire up 14 because: 1) I feel like there is nothing new to see. 2) I have a PS4. Ncaa was always my go to game. I have been playing with the same group of guys for 20 years, so it is sad to see it go.
        I agree. I still fire up my NCAA 14. I'm saddened that I won't be able to enjoy it on XB1. Even though, there's updated rosters out there to reflect the 2014 season, I probably won't use them because you can't get the correct changes in the schedule for the upcoming season.

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        • Retropyro
          Pro
          • Jul 2010
          • 798

          #5
          I still love to play the game. Don't really care about the play-off, if anything I'd prefer the old bowl system. My only disappointment is not being able to enjoy NCAA on my XB1 or PS4. As much as I love Madden, it just can't equal the recruiting and off-season management of NCAA, hopefully Madden 15 offers a deeper off-season.
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          • khaliib
            MVP
            • Jan 2005
            • 2841

            #6
            Re: A lawsuit isn't what really killed NCAA Football; the lack of a playoff did

            Originally posted by Steve_OS


            Checking in today with his personal take on the lack of NCAA Football this summer, Owen Good writes that it won't be the lawsuit that does the series in, it will be the lack of a playoff option in old games.


            What do you think about the lack of a playoff option in NCAA? Are you going to play last year's game with updated rosters?

            One of the greatest tools was given to us by Xanathol, but I'm shocked to find that the majority of OS still doesn't know about it or have chose not to use it to altar/enhance any previous NCAA release.
            generic-editor-ncaa-14

            His editor allows us to do things with game (Gameplay, some visuals) that were hidden from the gamer.

            Dealing with your OP, here is a thread that deals with this specific topic.
            ncaa-2014-four-team-playoff-guide-plus-more-modding

            These are other threads of Gameplay topics that contain a collaboration of community folks manipulating and testing, that have given us the ability to enhance the experience of playing NCAA Football.

            No other Slider thread compares to what these guys have found out concerning what sliders actually will do to Gameplay/Animations.
            ncaa-14-os-community-playmakers-split-sliders

            Here is a thread that gives a foundation on how to manipulate Player Ratings to achieve the type of Gameplay/Animations each gamer would want.
            true-gameplay-inside-ratings

            Tdawg has made it possible for gamers to set Rating Thresholds and run their Roster/Dynasty through his Excel Workbook which sets the whole roster to these settings.
            tdawgs-adjusted-scale-re-rated-roster

            And to top it off, PocketScout has provided the community with a gorgeous html set up that puts each gamers Dynasty into an online web page that has everything about your Dynasty.
            pocketscout-ncaa-2014-webpage-creator

            So the community here at OS has found ways to make the game fresh and new while providing the ability to apply the topic noted in the OP.

            And we've just scratched the surface because we really haven't gotten into the Dynasty portion.

            BTW, thanks Steve for allowing the community to do this stuff.
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            Last edited by khaliib; 07-12-2014, 01:57 PM.

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            • jello1717
              All Star
              • Feb 2006
              • 5653

              #7
              Re: A lawsuit isn't what really killed NCAA Football; the lack of a playoff did

              khaliib mentioned what I was going to. There's the editor that can add a 4 team playoff (or 8 team or 16 team or whatever you want) to NCAA 14 already. The amount of replayability this adds to the game is tremendous.
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              • XXstormmXX
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                • Aug 2013
                • 1760

                #8
                Re: A lawsuit isn't what really killed NCAA Football; the lack of a playoff did

                The BCS had it right. I'm perfectly fine playing without a playoff.
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                • EastC0astHusker
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                  • Jul 2014
                  • 5

                  #9
                  Re: A lawsuit isn't what really killed NCAA Football; the lack of a playoff did

                  The editor does make not having NCAA 15 bearable, but it's hard not to play the "what if" game... Might have finally gotten back some of the features they took away when they went to the PS3... Wait, who am I kidding? NCAA 15 would have been stripped down to the barest of bones.

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                  • statum71
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 1988

                    #10
                    I'll play '14 even without a playoff option. Simply for the love of college football this fall.

                    I am however hoping the series comes back in the future so we can get a next-gen version.
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                    • bigbob
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                      • Sep 2007
                      • 10473

                      #11
                      Re: A lawsuit isn't what really killed NCAA Football; the lack of a playoff did

                      Originally posted by jello1717
                      khaliib mentioned what I was going to. There's the editor that can add a 4 team playoff (or 8 team or 16 team or whatever you want) to NCAA 14 already. The amount of replayability this adds to the game is tremendous.
                      It's not the same as having a real playoff.
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                      • fballturkey
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                        • Jul 2011
                        • 2380

                        #12
                        Re: A lawsuit isn't what really killed NCAA Football; the lack of a playoff did

                        The article title makes no sense. The lawsuit (or threats of lawsuits) are exactly what killed NCAA. The lack of a playoff in 14 had nothing to do with it.
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                          • LastExit
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                            • Apr 2012
                            • 328

                            #14
                            Re: A lawsuit isn't what really killed NCAA Football; the lack of a playoff did

                            Originally posted by fballturkey
                            The article title makes no sense. The lawsuit (or threats of lawsuits) are exactly what killed NCAA. The lack of a playoff in 14 had nothing to do with it.
                            I think what is meant by the article title is that the conclusion of the game (for the near future, at least) is not what really hurts playing it going forward......if the BCS system were still intact then all we would need is to update the rosters and live with outdated uniforms. It's the fact that the playoff system has changed how national champions are determined that really makes playing '14 feel dated despite roster updates.

                            Your point is taken that you couldn't have one without the other, but I'm in the camp that believes that EA could have patched the current game to include a "generic" playoff system without risking further lawsuits. The lawsuit was over player likenesses, not the similarity between the bowl game system.

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                            • Iceman87GT
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                              • Jan 2010
                              • 1739

                              #15
                              Originally posted by fballturkey
                              The article title makes no sense. The lawsuit (or threats of lawsuits) are exactly what killed NCAA. The lack of a playoff in 14 had nothing to do with it.
                              I believe the article is referring to the fact that NCAA 14 would still be a game played for years to come if only the Playoff was in the game.

                              Games tend to live on long after support for the title is gone, so the fact that EA isn't making the game any more means doesn't mean that people won't still play it, but the fact that it doesn't have the playoff in the game, means that the game will die out online quicker which means EA will pull the plug on the servers sooner which means the game will be dead in terms of online and thus much less interactivity (rosters would have to be passed along using downloads to USB, not the roster share), Also Teambuilder will eventually be taken down and with it the ability to recreate uniforms, approximate new stadiums, etc.

                              The game was already going to die because EA will not make another version for the foreseeable future, but the fact that this decision to end the series happened a year before the Playoff System was put into place means that the game will die out online even quicker.
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