FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game - Operation Sports Forums

FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Hooe
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2002
    • 21548

    #1246
    Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

    Game 3 - Eagles (me) vs Cowboys
    All-Pro difficulty, default sliders across the board baseline
    HUM and CPU QB Accuracy slider at 35
    10 minute quarters, accelerated clock to 15 seconds
    Auto-Sub sliders: 90 out, 95 in for all defense

    Tony Romo - 22/34, 176 yards, TD, INT, long of 29
    Nick Foles - 15/22, 140 yards, 2 TDs, long of 28

    LeSean McCoy - 14 carries, 104 yards, 23 after first hit, long of 56
    Demarco Murray - 8 carries, 37 yards, TD, 5 after first hit, long of 25
    Nick Foles - 8 carries, 40 yards, 8 after first hit, long of 11
    Darren Sproles - 6 carries, 42 yards, TD, 9 after first hit, long of 14

    Cole Beasley - 6 catches, 58 yards, 27 YAC, long of 29
    Jason Witten - 5 catches, 43 yards, TD, 12 YAC, long of 16
    Dez Bryant - 4 catches, 36 yards, 4 YAC, drop, long of 20
    Jeremy Maclin - 4 catches, 49 yards, 10 YAC, long of 15
    Terrance Williams - 3 catches, 27 yards, 9 YAC, 2 drops, long of 13
    Riley Cooper - 3 catches, 55 yards, 18 YAC, long of 28

    Sean Lee - 4 tackles
    Rolando McClain - 4 tackles, TFL
    J.J. Wilcox - 4 tackles
    George Selvie - 3 tackles, 2 TFLs, sack
    Bruce Carter - 3 tackles, TFL
    Brandon Boykin - 4 tackles, fumble forced
    Mychael Kendricks - 4 tackles
    Demeco Ryans - 4 tackles
    Nate Allen - 4 tackles
    Casey Matthews - INT
    Phillip Hunt - tackle, TFL, sack

    IMPRESSIONS - this was a tight game up through the third quarter, with Dallas up 14-13 at half, but their defense just appeared to wear out by the end of the contest.

    McCoy is a ton of fun to use, even with his speed reduced. I had to keep giving him the rock, but I eventually was rewarded with a 56-yard run in the fourth quarter on the game-sealing drive. I'm pretty sure on the default ratings this run would have been a touchdown, but again McCoy's top-end speed isn't that great with FBGratings (81 SPD, 87 ACC) so I wasn't really upset. He was obviously more quick than fast and was very effective evading tacklers.

    Romo played reasonably well but never really challenged downfield. I was playing a lot of zone coverage on account of the Eagles' cornerbacks not having great ratings, which probably had something to do with the matter; would have been nice to see the Cowboys try to stretch the field more, though. He was obviously capable though; well, minus the one INT he literally threw right at me when I was playing on Casey Matthews in coverage.

    The Eagles' OL played very well in pass blocking, with the exception of the Selvie sack I'm not sure that Foles was touched. Between that and a strong running game, I was able to have success throwing the ball without much issue.

    This is mostly not a ratings concern but I'll say something anyway - I could be wrong, but it was almost like the adjustments to auto-subs affected the CPU team more than it did mine, which I did not expect at all. By the end of the game I was seeing plenty of Cowboys' reserves on the field for extended periods of time; Rolando McClain, Orie Lemon, Jeremy Mincey, Tyrone Crawford, Ben Bass, Ken Bishop, and Ahmad Dixon all logged significant minutes in the fourth quarter. There were some subs on the Eagles' side of the ball - I saw a lot of Philip Hunt in place of Trent Cole in the 4th quarter and Jason Phillips was in there for a few plays in place of Mychael Kendricks - but not nearly to the extent as what I saw from Dallas. I did win time of possession 23:00 to 17:00, which contributed certainly, but bottom line is that the changes I made to auto-sub sliders appeared to have a profound impact which I don't yet understand (I'm not a slider guru) and that likely swung the outcome a bit. I also assume that the reduced stamina ratings across the board contributed, as most of the defensive linemen's STA ratings are now in the low 70s.

    I had 98 total offensive plays. Might be necessary to up the quarter length to get a realistic total amount of offensive plays (which I believe is supposed to be closer to 120 or 130?). These ratings so far appear to really reduce the number of big plays in the game; the 50+ yard run by McCoy is easily the longest play I've seen with these ratings in the three games I've logged (and one additional game which I did not record). This in turn results in more longer and sustained drives. Worth noting that I did not attempt to play at the uptempo no-huddle pace which the Eagles typically play at in real life.

    Comment

    • HC0023
      MVP
      • Mar 2009
      • 1370

      #1247
      Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

      The Subs are seriously broken i would just leave them at default . Well atleast a minimum of 120 plays last year the most was 142 i believe but minimum 120

      Comment

      • Argooos
        Pro
        • Aug 2009
        • 752

        #1248
        Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

        Quick question: Does anyone know how much on average the ratings on Madden are inflated compared to the FBGRatings?

        I'm creating a bunch of players based on their FBGRatings for my next franchise, but I plan to use them in a regular Madden roster. I plan to raise my created players ratings to match those of players on other teams (to make them competitive). I just wanted to see if anyone has done any work on comparing these ratings to the Madden ratings.

        Comment

        • Hooe
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2002
          • 21548

          #1249
          Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

          I don't have quantified data to give you but my impressions from fully roster editing four teams so far -

          - physical traits are more spread out. You'll see some WRs, RBs, and CBs with speed in the 70s, some skill position players with high STR ratings, some players with high SPD and low ACC ratings, and so on. More diverse from a pure physical attributes standpoint. Makes for some interesting player builds.

          - generally speaking, mental stats are higher than on the EA roster. Things like AWR, BCV, and PRC come to mind. There's still diversity there, but the range is tighter than on EA's roster. This is especially notable with rookies, as EA's ratings love to slam their mental ratings into the ground. My impression is that this makes for a more even-handed game overall.

          - across pretty much every player on the EA roster, ACC is always greater than SPD. This is not the case with FBGratings' roster.

          - SPD and ACC for OL and DL is lower and the relationship between each player's SPD and ACC rating is much tighter; you don't see as many OLs with say 60 SPD and 80 ACC (20 point differential)

          -fewer players with physical ratings > 90. There may be a half-dozen players with SPD > 90 on the four teams I've edited so far?

          That's all I got for now.

          Comment

          • DCEBB2001
            MVP
            • Nov 2008
            • 2580

            #1250
            Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

            Originally posted by Argooos
            Quick question: Does anyone know how much on average the ratings on Madden are inflated compared to the FBGRatings?

            I'm creating a bunch of players based on their FBGRatings for my next franchise, but I plan to use them in a regular Madden roster. I plan to raise my created players ratings to match those of players on other teams (to make them competitive). I just wanted to see if anyone has done any work on comparing these ratings to the Madden ratings.
            Well, I don't think that FBG Ratings would be a good source for anyone wanting to create players for stock EA rosters. CM Hope hit on a bit of it, but it is actually far more complex than what he alluded to. Basically, every player on the FBG site uses data to determine their ratings. No range in attributes is dictated. Rather, all of the data dictates the range.

            According to Donny Moore in 2009, when EA attempted in Madden 10 to spread the ratings distribution (and then choose not to do so for Madden 11), they would set the range for an attribute before rating the players. For instance, Donny said that the range for WR SPD used to be 75-99 but for Madden 10, he adjusted it to 70-99. He did this also for most other attributes.

            This is the WRONG approach, however. We know that the usable scale in Madden is 0-99. Since SPD is measured for all players, we can use a metric like maximum velocity to determine every player's SPD REGARDLESS of position. Think about this: If a 300lb OL runs a 40 yard dash in 5.00 seconds and a 180lb QB runs a 40 yard dash in 5.00 seconds, should the QB be faster because he weighs less and plays a different position?

            OF COURSE NOT! Mass has no affect on velocity! Velocity is a function of distance and time. If the distances and times are the same, then the average velocity is the same! EA took the Bass Ackward approach of dictating the range for each position before looking at the d*mn data! That is not only TERRIBLE science, but even worse logic.

            My next question is, why would you even WANT to use their rosters knowing that they don't use the right data to dictate their results, and instead, dictate their results without using any verifiable metrics?

            If you rate all players using the same measures, you will find that OL are slower than QBs (on the average), WRs are more agile than DL, and RBs have higher BCV than CBs without having to dictate the parameters first. All EA had to do was use some of that money, make some REAL connections in an NFL front office, get some REAL scouting data, and rate players how they should REALLY be rated.

            The scouting data that drives FBG Ratings makes no assumptions. However, what it does do is tell us a few things about all of the players to play since 1997. Let's assume that ALL PLAYERS are measured equally, regardless of position so I can give you a prime example:

            EXAMPLE: STR

            STR varies far wider than what EA is letting you believe. In fact, NFL 2K had their STR ratings just about right. My guess is that they used REAL data, unlike their EA counterparts. If you set the weakest player to 1 and the strongest to 99, then, employ a linear regression (so the distance between each point is the same), you find that elite (90+) STR is EXTREMELY RARE. How rare? Well, out of 26,000 players with verifiable data, only 12 would have a STR rating over 90. 12! The average STR rating for a player would be 43. Those numbers are WAY lower than the crap that EA feeds you, but it is true! I have the data to back it up! Instead, EA is trying to convince you that the average STR for a player is 71. Those numbers are WAY off.



            So you see, EA is trying to make you think that every player is a massive professional weight lifter who squat 750 and bench 600. This could not be farther from the truth. Any guess as to what the average 1 rep max in the squat is for a DT? EA would let you believe that it is 700 freakin' pounds with all of those DT STR ratings that are 90+.

            506.

            Wanna know the average 1 rep max in the bench press?

            382.

            Those are NOT super-human numbers that are deserving of averaging ELITE STR numbers, yet, EA believes that the average DT in the NFL has a STR rating of 87. You know what it should be? 65.

            EA has over-inflated all of these ratings when you actually compare them to some real data. The data tells us that EA is not only tightening the actual range, but is also raising the average based on position. It is complete crap. They need to get their collective heads out of their you know wheres and rate these players correctly.
            Dan B.
            Player Ratings Administrator
            www.fbgratings.com/members
            NFL Scout
            www.nfldraftscout.com/members

            Petition to EA for FBG Ratings:
            https://www.change.org/p/ea-sports-t...bers-index-php

            Comment

            • DCEBB2001
              MVP
              • Nov 2008
              • 2580

              #1251
              Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

              ****AN UPDATE FOR ROSTER EDITORS****


              I know that there are a few groups making rosters using FBG Ratings. Well, I have made it a bit easier to track player updates on the website.

              Each time a player's ratings change, you will notice a + or - sign with an attribute amount next to their name on the roster. EXAMPLE:



              When you click on the player's ratings page, you can see in the lower right corner (right under the ratings box) two dates. The first is the "Overall Rating Updated" date. This is the date that the OVR rating was last updated. The second is the "Player Attributes Last Updated" date. This is the date that the attributes were last updated. They should always be the same date.



              All players in the entire database were last updated on 7/9/2014. I highly suggest you edit players to those specifications in your rosters. However, some players have been updated on 7/11/2014. You can tell because the dates on their profile pages say 7/11/2014 for the "Overall Rating Updated" and "Player Attributes Last Updated" dates. Other players will still reflect the last date their ratings changed. EXAMPLE:



              Now, if a player changed positions (and thus his OVR calculation changed) OR his attributes changed but his OVR did not, his dates will be updated on his player profile page, BUT his ratings change on the roster list will say "+0". That means that the player still needs to be edited but his OVR did not change due to the edits. This could be because of the position change or because some attributes changed but not enough to bump the player up or down a full OVR point. EXAMPLE:





              Basically, if a player has a + or - in the "+/-" column on the roster page, you need to edit them. If they do not, then just leave that player alone. This way, you won't have to be editing entire rosters, but instead, just edit the players that changed.

              Let me know if you have any questions. I will post this in the other FBG-Related Roster Threads.

              Dan B.
              Dan B.
              Player Ratings Administrator
              www.fbgratings.com/members
              NFL Scout
              www.nfldraftscout.com/members

              Petition to EA for FBG Ratings:
              https://www.change.org/p/ea-sports-t...bers-index-php

              Comment

              • Argooos
                Pro
                • Aug 2009
                • 752

                #1252
                Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                Thanks for the info. I actually already knew most of that, having been reading this thread pretty much since it started. In any case, hopefully others reading the thread will find that info enlightening

                I guess I was hoping for a general rule of thumb for converting the ratings, but I should have known better. I'll just have to adjust based on positional averages like I have done in the past.

                Originally posted by DCEBB2001
                My next question is, why would you even WANT to use their rosters knowing that they don't use the right data to dictate their results, and instead, dictate their results without using any verifiable metrics?
                I would love to use a roster made entirely with your ratings, but I'm not aware of one for Madden 12 with the rosters updated for the 2014-15 season. I don't have time to edit the entire roster myself either. Plus, even if I had such a roster, I plan to play a franchise, so every rookie who came into the league in future seasons would likely have some ridiculous game-breaking attributes and not fit in with the rest of the players in the league.

                Comment

                • ranta21
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 46

                  #1253
                  Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                  Good stuff Dan. One observation though. I understand that all the data comes from the scouts, but how come we see so many raises (+) but hardly any cuts (-)? Or so it seems on the "RECENT RATING CHANGES" page. Is it countered by injuries or retirements perhaps? If you could give us some insight, it would be highly appreciated.

                  Comment

                  • jwagner82
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 223

                    #1254
                    Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                    Sorry if I'm missing something, but how does Ryan Mallett get boosted to a 76 with his only game tape being sub-par, yet Logan Ryan who was actually helping our defense, is at like a 66. Also, how in god's name is Casey Hayward a 67..

                    Comment

                    • DCEBB2001
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 2580

                      #1255
                      Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                      Originally posted by ranta21
                      Good stuff Dan. One observation though. I understand that all the data comes from the scouts, but how come we see so many raises (+) but hardly any cuts (-)? Or so it seems on the "RECENT RATING CHANGES" page. Is it countered by injuries or retirements perhaps? If you could give us some insight, it would be highly appreciated.
                      The raises are just for the updates I did yesterday. Over the course of a season, there will be far more (-) than (+) designations due to injury. The recent ratings changes page only shows some of the recent changes. You will see more of them by either searching by player name or by looking at the active rosters. Look up injured players and retired players. You will note that they all have significant (-) drops in OVR.

                      I only report what the data shows and the scouts only change the data when a change is warranted.
                      Dan B.
                      Player Ratings Administrator
                      www.fbgratings.com/members
                      NFL Scout
                      www.nfldraftscout.com/members

                      Petition to EA for FBG Ratings:
                      https://www.change.org/p/ea-sports-t...bers-index-php

                      Comment

                      • DCEBB2001
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 2580

                        #1256
                        Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                        Originally posted by jwagner82
                        Sorry if I'm missing something, but how does Ryan Mallett get boosted to a 76 with his only game tape being sub-par, yet Logan Ryan who was actually helping our defense, is at like a 66. Also, how in god's name is Casey Hayward a 67..

                        Keep in mind that I only report the data as it is interpolated from the scouting source to Madden ratings. The scouts obviously saw something to give me a +3 point OVR boost. Keep in mind that everything is based on TRAITS, not stats/vids/etc. Mallett just completed another year as a QB in a very good system behind a very good coach and starting QB. That alone, I would think, would perhaps allow him to gain a few AWR points at a minimum.

                        For Logan Ryan, once again, look at his traits, not his production. Madden does not have an attribute called "actually helped NE's defense because someone on OS said he did". His SPD for a CB is subpar. His hands, tackling ability, and ZCV skills are below average for his position. He had a handful of starts. Obviously, he needs to acquire more time so we can see how he develops.

                        Casey Heyward was injured the whole season from mini-camp onward in 2013. Look at our FAQ section - injuries affect the OVR. Try playing up to your potential with a pulled hamstring so bad that it lands you on IR. He is healthy this year, however, and he led all rookies with 6 INTs in 2012. I guess the scouts think he is nearing his level from that season where he topped out at a 71.
                        Dan B.
                        Player Ratings Administrator
                        www.fbgratings.com/members
                        NFL Scout
                        www.nfldraftscout.com/members

                        Petition to EA for FBG Ratings:
                        https://www.change.org/p/ea-sports-t...bers-index-php

                        Comment

                        • williamsa9
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 123

                          #1257
                          Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                          Love how these ratings a truly change the game, and I understand how you get all the attributes for the players, and I completely trust your scouting reports and sources, and I'm pretty biased here lol but I know Teddy Bridgewater will outplay the ratings he's been given, mark my words, half way through the season he will be the best rookie QB in every category!

                          Side note, I've been playing around with the sliders and I feel like I've found a good combo to go along with the FBG ratings rosters

                          All Pro for both CPU/HUM
                          QBA(both) at 15
                          -With the QBA at 15 you'll see some incomplete passes that are pretty realistic in my opinion. Like out routes, throwing it to hard will lead the receiver out of bounds and be incomplete, throwing down the field could result in overthrow, or if you underthrow it, with the Pass reaction, good chance a safety thats hanging around will pick you off.

                          Pass reaction time(both) at 75
                          -With it at 75, curl routes are pretty dangerous and you can't just call them and march down the field. I've noticed that curl routes tend to be to easy to complete and at 75 I've had the DBs recognize, jump the route, and pick me off, which is awesome.

                          Everything else is all madden, except I do lower kick accuracy to 45. I don't know if it helps or not, I've just always done it. Also I don't know if this has to do with the sliders, but since I've been playing with these, I've been getting some penalties, I've had like 3 OFF/DEF pass interference calls total throughout a few games, and my favorite, a couple cases of unnecessary roughness when being tackled out of bounds.

                          Comment

                          • DCEBB2001
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 2580

                            #1258
                            Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                            Originally posted by williamsa9
                            Love how these ratings a truly change the game, and I understand how you get all the attributes for the players, and I completely trust your scouting reports and sources, and I'm pretty biased here lol but I know Teddy Bridgewater will outplay the ratings he's been given, mark my words, half way through the season he will be the best rookie QB in every category!

                            Side note, I've been playing around with the sliders and I feel like I've found a good combo to go along with the FBG ratings rosters

                            All Pro for both CPU/HUM
                            QBA(both) at 15
                            -With the QBA at 15 you'll see some incomplete passes that are pretty realistic in my opinion. Like out routes, throwing it to hard will lead the receiver out of bounds and be incomplete, throwing down the field could result in overthrow, or if you underthrow it, with the Pass reaction, good chance a safety thats hanging around will pick you off.

                            Pass reaction time(both) at 75
                            -With it at 75, curl routes are pretty dangerous and you can't just call them and march down the field. I've noticed that curl routes tend to be to easy to complete and at 75 I've had the DBs recognize, jump the route, and pick me off, which is awesome.

                            Everything else is all madden, except I do lower kick accuracy to 45. I don't know if it helps or not, I've just always done it. Also I don't know if this has to do with the sliders, but since I've been playing with these, I've been getting some penalties, I've had like 3 OFF/DEF pass interference calls total throughout a few games, and my favorite, a couple cases of unnecessary roughness when being tackled out of bounds.
                            IF Bridgewater improves, you will see his ratings rise, I'm sure. Just have to wait for it to actually happen...IF it does.
                            Dan B.
                            Player Ratings Administrator
                            www.fbgratings.com/members
                            NFL Scout
                            www.nfldraftscout.com/members

                            Petition to EA for FBG Ratings:
                            https://www.change.org/p/ea-sports-t...bers-index-php

                            Comment

                            • Streetfbmv
                              Rookie
                              • May 2009
                              • 34

                              #1259
                              Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                              I haven't been able to test as much as I have wanted to recently, but I was able to get a game in last night. The ratings I used are from the previous update before the 7/9/14, 7/11/14 updates. As a Giants fan I am a little impatient in waiting for Eli to heal so his rating will go back to where it should be, so I used the ratings I had on my FBG rated roster from my 360. Sorry, I just can't get myself to use Painter or Nassib

                              Like CM Hooe, I have a lot of the same views as he does from his impressions. Madden is Madden, there is only so much we can change within the game. I did take williamsa9 advice and I adjusted the QBA and Pass Reaction Time for both HUM/CPU sliders.

                              I don't have many impressions to give this time around, other then the fact that these ratings help the game so much. Each player feels more like themselves, and you really need to game plan because match ups are key.

                              I played New York Giants (Me) vs Cleveland Browns (Cpu)
                              It was on All Pro with both HUM/CPU QBA sliders at 15 with the PRT at 75. (I got some more inaccurate throws, but the pass reaction time was what really stood out).
                              8min qts with accelerated clock at 20secs. (I'm not looking for sim stats in the amount of plays right now. I just want to see how the ratings play out)

                              <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="6">New York Giants at Cleveland Browns</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Jul 14, 2014</td><td align="right" width="10%">1ST</td><td align="right" width="10%">2ND</td><td align="right" width="10%">3RD</td><td align="right" width="10%">4TH</td><td align="right" width="12%">SCORE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>New York Giants ()</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right" class="active">23</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Cleveland Browns ()</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">19</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="60%"></td><td align="center" width="20%">NYG</td><td align="center" width="20%">CLE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Offense</td><td align="center">268</td><td align="center">273</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Rushing Yards</td><td align="center">72</td><td align="center">52</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Passing Yards</td><td align="center">196</td><td align="center">221</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">First Downs</td><td align="center">15</td><td align="center">11</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Punt Return Yards</td><td align="center"></td><td align="center"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Kick Return Yards</td><td align="center"></td><td align="center"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Yards</td><td align="center"></td><td align="center"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Turnovers</td><td align="center">2</td><td align="center">2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">3rd Down Converstion</td><td align="center"></td><td align="center"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">4th Down Conversion</td><td align="center"></td><td align="center"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">2-Point Conversion</td><td align="center"></td><td align="center"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals</td><td align="center"></td><td align="center"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Penalties</td><td align="center"></td><td align="center"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Posession Time</td><td align="center">18:55</td><td align="center">13:05</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="4">Scoring Summary</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">FIRST QUARTER SCORING</td><td align="right" width="10%">NYG</td><td align="right" width="10%">CLE</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="10%">5:40</td><td width="70%">(NYG) S.Brown, returned interception 49 Yds(J.Brown Kick)</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="10%">4:27</td><td width="70%">(CLE) B.Cundiff, 51 Yd FG</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">3</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">SECOND QUARTER SCORING</td><td align="right" width="10%">NYG</td><td align="right" width="10%">CLE</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="10%">7:24</td><td width="70%">(NYG) R.Jennings, 1 Yd run(J.Brown Kick)</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">3</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="10%">4:30</td><td width="70%">(CLE) B.Cundiff, 41 Yd FG</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">6</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="10%">0:29</td><td width="70%">(CLE) A.Hawkins 19 Yd pass from J.Manziel(B.Cundiff Kick)</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">13</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">THIRD QUARTER SCORING</td><td align="right" width="10%">NYG</td><td align="right" width="10%">CLE</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="10%">5:22</td><td width="70%">(NYG) B.Tate, 12 Yd run(two-point conversion failed)</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">19</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="10%">0:07</td><td width="70%">(CLE) A.Robison 12 Yd pass from E.Manning(two-point conversion failed)</td><td align="right">20</td><td align="right">19</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">FOURTH QUARTER SCORING</td><td align="right" width="10%">NYG</td><td align="right" width="10%">CLE</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="10%">2:50</td><td width="70%">(NYG) J.Brown, 32 Yd FG</td><td align="right">23</td><td align="right">19</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" class="spacer" style="margin:0 auto;" width="575"><tr><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#192E6C" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">New York Giants</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>E.Manning</td><td align="right">16/27</td><td align="right">201</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>R.Jennings</td><td align="right">16</td><td align="right">61</td><td align="right">3.8</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>D.Wilson</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">3.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>A.Williams</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">4.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>R.Randle</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">4.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>E.Manning</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">-4</td><td align="right">-2.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>O.Beckham Jr</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">51</td><td align="right">10.2</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>V.Cruz</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">48</td><td align="right">16.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>R.Jennings</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">40</td><td align="right">20.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>A.Robinson</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">24</td><td align="right">12.0</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>K.Davis</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">14.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>J.Jerningan</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">6.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J.Connor</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">4.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>R.Randle</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">14.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">DEFENSE</td><td align="right" width="16%">TACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">SACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D.Rodgers-Cromartie</td><td align="right">9</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>J.Beason</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>P.Amukamara</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>J. Williams</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J.Pierre-Paul</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">KICKING</td><td align="right" width="16%">FG</td><td align="right" width="16%">XP</td><td align="right" width="16%">PTS</td><td align="right" width="16%">LONG</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J.Brown</td><td align="right">1/2</td><td align="right">2/2</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr></table></td><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#322820" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Cleveland Browns</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J.Manziel</td><td align="right">23/33</td><td align="right">221</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B.Tate</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right">52</td><td align="right">6.5</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>A.Hawkins</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">95</td><td align="right">15.8</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>N.Burleson</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">33</td><td align="right">8.2</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B.Tate</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">25</td><td align="right">8.3</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>J.Cameron</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">16</td><td align="right">5.3</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J.Gordon</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">22</td><td align="right">11.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>M.Austin</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">16</td><td align="right">8.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>C.Ogbonnaya</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">2.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>T.West</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">6.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J.Dray</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">6.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">DEFENSE</td><td align="right" width="16%">TACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">SACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D.Whitner</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>C.Robertson</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>A***bin</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>P.Kruger</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>T.Gipson</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">KICKING</td><td align="right" width="16%">FG</td><td align="right" width="16%">XP</td><td align="right" width="16%">PTS</td><td align="right" width="16%">LONG</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B.Cundiff</td><td align="right">2/3</td><td align="right">1/1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></body></html>

                              I got some video of a few plays that caught my attention. I did it quick so you'll have to put up with the phone quality.

                              This first video is the Stevie Brown INT return. Manziel goes to throw it to the flats on his left, but by the time he throws it, Brown is already full steam ahead to cut it off.
                              Spoiler


                              In this play, Hawkins was in the middle of the bunch formation to the right. Rolle is lined up against him, and Hawkins quickness is obviously too much. He leaves Rolle in the dust while catching a wide open pass, and is able to turn up field to gain a few more yards. I also liked how he hurdled the first attempt of a tackle.
                              Spoiler


                              In this play you can see Eli uses a play action pass while Jennings goes on a wheel route. Mingo bites HARD, leaving Jennings wide open.
                              Spoiler


                              The rookie corner got me on this one. I tried leading a pass to the sidelines where only ODB could attempt to catch it, but Gilbert clearly made an amazing play ruining my red zone opportunity.
                              Spoiler


                              In past games I have had major issues with having a lot of injures, but this game wasn't that bad. I also would really like to see the auto subs work a little better :/ .

                              Edit: If anyone wants me to upload my rosters I can. They need the newest attribute tweaks, but the Giants, Ravens, and Browns are done with rookies.
                              Last edited by Streetfbmv; 07-14-2014, 04:01 PM.

                              Comment

                              • DCEBB2001
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 2580

                                #1260
                                Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                                Originally posted by Streetfbmv
                                I haven't been able to test as much as I have wanted to recently, but I was able to get a game in last night. The ratings I used are from the previous update before the 7/9/14, 7/11/14 updates. As a Giants fan I am a little impatient in waiting for Eli to heal so his rating will go back to where it should be, so I used the ratings I had on my FBG rated roster from my 360. Sorry, I just can't get myself to use Painter or Nassib

                                Like CM Hooe, I have a lot of the same views as he does from his impressions. Madden is Madden, there is only so much we can change within the game. I did take williamsa9 advice and I adjusted the QBA and Pass Reaction Time for both HUM/CPU sliders.

                                I don't have many impressions to give this time around, other then the fact that these ratings help the game so much. Each player feels more like themselves, and you really need to game plan because match ups are key.

                                I played New York Giants (Me) vs Cleveland Browns (Cpu)
                                It was on All Pro with both HUM/CPU QBA sliders at 15 with the PRT at 75. (I got some more inaccurate throws, but the pass reaction time was what really stood out).
                                8min qts with accelerated clock at 20secs. (I'm not looking for sim stats in the amount of plays right now. I just want to see how the ratings play out)

                                <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"><table class="osdyn" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="6" align="center">New York Giants at Cleveland Browns</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Jul 14, 2014</td><td align="right" width="10%">1ST</td><td align="right" width="10%">2ND</td><td align="right" width="10%">3RD</td><td align="right" width="10%">4TH</td><td align="right" width="12%">SCORE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>New York Giants ()</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">3</td><td class="active" align="right">23</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Cleveland Browns ()</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">19</td></tr></tbody></table><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="60%">
                                </td><td align="center" width="20%">NYG</td><td align="center" width="20%">CLE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Offense</td><td align="center">268</td><td align="center">273</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Rushing Yards</td><td align="center">72</td><td align="center">52</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Passing Yards</td><td align="center">196</td><td align="center">221</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">First Downs</td><td align="center">15</td><td align="center">11</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Punt Return Yards</td><td align="center">
                                </td><td align="center">
                                </td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Kick Return Yards</td><td align="center">
                                </td><td align="center">
                                </td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Yards</td><td align="center">
                                </td><td align="center">
                                </td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Turnovers</td><td align="center">2</td><td align="center">2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">3rd Down Converstion</td><td align="center">
                                </td><td align="center">
                                </td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">4th Down Conversion</td><td align="center">
                                </td><td align="center">
                                </td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">2-Point Conversion</td><td align="center">
                                </td><td align="center">
                                </td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals</td><td align="center">
                                </td><td align="center">
                                </td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Penalties</td><td align="center">
                                </td><td align="center">
                                </td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Posession Time</td><td align="center">18:55</td><td align="center">13:05</td></tr></tbody></table><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="4">Scoring Summary</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">FIRST QUARTER SCORING</td><td align="right" width="10%">NYG</td><td align="right" width="10%">CLE</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="10%">5:40</td><td width="70%">(NYG) S.Brown, returned interception 49 Yds(J.Brown Kick)</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="10%">4:27</td><td width="70%">(CLE) B.Cundiff, 51 Yd FG</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">3</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">SECOND QUARTER SCORING</td><td align="right" width="10%">NYG</td><td align="right" width="10%">CLE</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="10%">7:24</td><td width="70%">(NYG) R.Jennings, 1 Yd run(J.Brown Kick)</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">3</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="10%">4:30</td><td width="70%">(CLE) B.Cundiff, 41 Yd FG</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">6</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="10%">0:29</td><td width="70%">(CLE) A.Hawkins 19 Yd pass from J.Manziel(B.Cundiff Kick)</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">13</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">THIRD QUARTER SCORING</td><td align="right" width="10%">NYG</td><td align="right" width="10%">CLE</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="10%">5:22</td><td width="70%">(NYG) B.Tate, 12 Yd run(two-point conversion failed)</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">19</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="10%">0:07</td><td width="70%">(CLE) A.Robison 12 Yd pass from E.Manning(two-point conversion failed)</td><td align="right">20</td><td align="right">19</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">FOURTH QUARTER SCORING</td><td align="right" width="10%">NYG</td><td align="right" width="10%">CLE</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="10%">2:50</td><td width="70%">(NYG) J.Brown, 32 Yd FG</td><td align="right">23</td><td align="right">19</td></tr></tbody></table><table class="spacer" style="margin:0 auto;" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" width="575"><tbody><tr><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="masthead_alt"><td colspan="5" bgcolor="#192E6C">New York Giants</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>E.Manning</td><td align="right">16/27</td><td align="right">201</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>R.Jennings</td><td align="right">16</td><td align="right">61</td><td align="right">3.8</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>D.Wilson</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">3.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>A.Williams</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">4.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>R.Randle</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">4.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>E.Manning</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">-4</td><td align="right">-2.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>O.Beckham Jr</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">51</td><td align="right">10.2</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>V.Cruz</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">48</td><td align="right">16.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>R.Jennings</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">40</td><td align="right">20.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>A.Robinson</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">24</td><td align="right">12.0</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>K.Davis</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">14.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>J.Jerningan</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">6.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J.Connor</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">4.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>R.Randle</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">14.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">DEFENSE</td><td align="right" width="16%">TACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">SACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D.Rodgers-Cromartie</td><td align="right">9</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>J.Beason</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>P.Amukamara</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>J. Williams</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J.Pierre-Paul</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">KICKING</td><td align="right" width="16%">FG</td><td align="right" width="16%">XP</td><td align="right" width="16%">PTS</td><td align="right" width="16%">LONG</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J.Brown</td><td align="right">1/2</td><td align="right">2/2</td><td align="right">
                                </td><td align="right">
                                </td></tr></tbody></table></td><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="masthead_alt"><td colspan="5" bgcolor="#322820">Cleveland Browns</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J.Manziel</td><td align="right">23/33</td><td align="right">221</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B.Tate</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right">52</td><td align="right">6.5</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>A.Hawkins</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">95</td><td align="right">15.8</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>N.Burleson</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">33</td><td align="right">8.2</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B.Tate</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">25</td><td align="right">8.3</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>J.Cameron</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">16</td><td align="right">5.3</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J.Gordon</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">22</td><td align="right">11.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>M.Austin</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">16</td><td align="right">8.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>C.Ogbonnaya</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">2.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>T.West</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">6.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J.Dray</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">6.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">DEFENSE</td><td align="right" width="16%">TACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">SACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D.Whitner</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>C.Robertson</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>A***bin</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>P.Kruger</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>T.Gipson</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">KICKING</td><td align="right" width="16%">FG</td><td align="right" width="16%">XP</td><td align="right" width="16%">PTS</td><td align="right" width="16%">LONG</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B.Cundiff</td><td align="right">2/3</td><td align="right">1/1</td><td align="right">
                                </td><td align="right">
                                </td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>

                                I got some video of a few plays that caught my attention. I did it quick so you'll have to put up with the phone quality.

                                This first video is the Stevie Brown INT return. Manziel goes to throw it to the flats on his left, but by the time he throws it, Brown is already full steam ahead to cut it off.
                                Spoiler


                                In this play, Hawkins was in the middle of the bunch formation to the right. Rolle is lined up against him, and Hawkins quickness is obviously too much. He leaves Rolle in the dust while catching a wide open pass, and is able to turn up field to gain a few more yards. I also liked how he hurdled the first attempt of a tackle.
                                Spoiler


                                In this play you can see Eli uses a play action pass while Jennings goes on a wheel route. Mingo bites HARD, leaving Jennings wide open.
                                Spoiler


                                The rookie corner got me on this one. I tried leading a pass to the sidelines where only ODB could attempt to catch it, but Gilbert clearly made an amazing play ruining my red zone opportunity.
                                Spoiler


                                In past games I have had major issues with having a lot of injures, but this game wasn't that bad. I also would really like to see the auto subs work a little better :/ .

                                Edit: If anyone wants me to upload my rosters I can. They need the newest attribute tweaks, but the Giants, Ravens, and Browns are done with rookies.

                                I am really glad you uploaded those videos. Let me ask you, what affect, if any, did the ratings have on the gameplay itself, the player movement, etc. Could you go into some detail about that as well like CM Hope was doing?
                                Dan B.
                                Player Ratings Administrator
                                www.fbgratings.com/members
                                NFL Scout
                                www.nfldraftscout.com/members

                                Petition to EA for FBG Ratings:
                                https://www.change.org/p/ea-sports-t...bers-index-php

                                Comment

                                Working...