Madden NFL 15 Trailer and Screenshots - Player Sense 2.0

[wordtobigbird]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Trailer and Screenshots - Player Sense 2.0

I didn't like it. I don't like how the receivers run their routes and break down with more realistic steps, but the db's take one step and turn on a dime. I don't like that receivers have to go through the animation, but the db animation is shortened just to make plays on the ball. It's better than what we've had, but still kinda cheap.

This new defense definitely doesn't work well with the receivers being on "rails". I can see myself being frustrated, not because the defense is tougher, but because it doesn't seem fair. DB's are attacking the ball, and receivers are just on their predetermined path.

Here's where we come back to the problem of a yearly release. They clearly had to do something to improve the defenders but like you said they took a shortcut instead of overhauling the entire receiver/defender engine. I am glad they did something though because we all know how useless defenders were on default settings last year.

But you see like when Berry (i tihink) intercepts Gronk. Gronk just goes into a catch animation at the same time as Berry but he's clearly in no position to catch it with berry in front of him. In real life Gronk would use his Player Sense 5.0 to realize he just got cut in front of and attack the ball or the defender.

[wordtobigbird]

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I definitely feel this, yet considering Rex acknowledged that WR/DB interaction still needs to be specifically addressed next year, hopefully those issues will be taken into account then. Though I'm weary of giving any kind of benefit of the doubt with how Madden will play out before it's released, my hope is that while nowhere near where it needs to be, these incremental additions in M15 will at least deter bad QB play and promote more running, field position emphasis.

I saw the same things you mentioned and while it's cheap the way defenders can bypass breaking down to stay close, if it results in passing windows being tighter, so timing and presnap decisions are more effective than just ad libbing every pass play post snap, that's a positive, imo.

They are hyping up how balanced Madden is so we shall see. I am hoping that pass defenses actually defend the pass but leave you vulnerable to the run. So these DBs making swats is cool and all but they better not be like LBs in the run game. Same for LBs in the pass game, they better not be covering WRs just because of this defensive boost.

The way I play I always switch on defense to manually swat/int/tackle anyway so my favorite part was the flat coverage. Was a HUGE hole in my defense in Madden 25 and wasn't a thing I could do about it.

[StefJoeHalt]

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I like the idea and I know we been harping on this..but aren't they working backwards here..and this is what I mean..shouldn't player movement ie animations (including DB, linemen, linebackers, etc) be fixed first..cause once they "fix" the movement..all the stuff they have done now to bandaid it..will have to be redone.. Player sense wise


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[tsbmolina]

Yawn, wake me when it's over. Looks like the same game for the past ten years.

[apollon42]

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When Richard Sherman broke on the bar it looked extremely robotic and unrealistic to me. It's like he warped into that animation.

[wordtobigbird]

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I like the idea and I know we been harping on this..but aren't they working backwards here..and this is what I mean..shouldn't player movement ie animations (including DB, linemen, linebackers, etc) be fixed first..cause once they "fix" the movement..all the stuff they have done now to bandaid it..will have to be redone.. Player sense wise


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I dont think so because the decisions they make will be the same but they wont be physicailly capable of making the stop, turn, jump, etc.

[apollon42]

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Whats up with that spinning interception animation. I don't think I've ever seen a pick like that in real life, ever. Also, I believe that incomplete pass signal will be overused by DB's.

[NicVirtue]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Trailer and Screenshots - Player Sense 2.0

I like the idea and I know we been harping on this..but aren't they working backwards here..and this is what I mean..shouldn't player movement ie animations (including DB, linemen, linebackers, etc) be fixed first..cause once they "fix" the movement..all the stuff they have done now to bandaid it..will have to be redone.. Player sense wise


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That is unless their answer to player movement is simply slowing the animations down. Wouldn't put it past them.

[brandon27]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Trailer and Screenshots - Player Sense 2.0

Looking good!

[charter04]

Madden NFL 15 Trailer and Screenshots - Player Sense 2.0

Yawn, wake me when it's over. Looks like the same game for the past ten years.

I'm all for people being able to give opinions on OS but, these are the commits that I could do without. Just pointless, non-constructive criticism. Actually this is not even criticism. It's more of just a Troll comment. The game most certainly hasn't looked the same in the last ten years. Some changes haven't been better. Some have been better but, not the same for sure.

[countryboy]

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Actually this came from Cortez Allen from the Pittsburgh Steelers and Stevenson Sylvester from the Buffalo Bills. We had both guys down here for a week working with us on coverage. They explained to us that in zone coverage, they break as soon as they see the QB locks his shoulder to throw. We scale break time by the zone coverage rating, so you will really only see this from 90+ rated zone coverage defenders.
Trust me we are well aware of psychic DB concerns and this will NOT be in the game.

Thank you for explaining this Rex. Very appreciative. Anxious to see this for myself.

[Big FN Deal]

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They are hyping up how balanced Madden is so we shall see. I am hoping that pass defenses actually defend the pass but leave you vulnerable to the run. So these DBs making swats is cool and all but they better not be like LBs in the run game. Same for LBs in the pass game, they better not be covering WRs just because of this defensive boost.

The way I play I always switch on defense to manually swat/int/tackle anyway so my favorite part was the flat coverage. Was a HUGE hole in my defense in Madden 25 and wasn't a thing I could do about it.

I seriously doubt it, not trying to be negative just being a realist. Don't really see how that's even possible until the movement/locomotion is worked on because fast and agile DBs will likely still be able to swerve around potential blockers to swarm to the ball carrier when running against dimes/quarters defense.

[bkrich83]

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I am encouraged by what I saw. I think some of the animations are awkward, and still not sure about context awareness on some of those swat plays, but I saw some things I liked for sure.

Looks improved from previous versions, but to be honest, looking at these videos has never done much for me. I won't know for sure until I go hands on.

[Darth Aegis]

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I'm excited, bring on late August already! Looks like the best madden yet, sure it needs some things changed but no game is perfect, Even the show and nba2k need work still.

[K_GUN]

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Latest Madden i own is 12....been playing it lately....this vid blows 12 out of the water...


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