Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream, Watch it Here

[LBzrule]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

NBA 2K14 on old gen started out the same way. Very realistic. Then the complaints came rolling in and they patched it to make it more casual.

And for online anyways, that's one of the biggest mistakes a developer can make IMO because while you satisfy the people who play your game short term, you alienate your core audience.

[TTD71]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

And this is where EA needs to ignore them. They've gone that route and it has not worked and the game is still working its way out of hell. They try to gain casuals and turn off core gamers and they will not win because they'll alienate the very people who WOULD be there for the long haul. The casual guy is not going to be there for the long haul. There will be plenty of items in the game for the casual person but they need to make sure they don't succumb to a voice that is not going to be around after one month. They've done that too much and even the diehards start looking elsewhere after about two months. So they've done enough babying and it hasn't worked out great.

^^^^THAT^^^^

Every word. HOF-worthy post in my eyes.

PLEASE build a game that starts and ends with real strategy making a difference and making people learn that NFL teams do not punt on 4th down for lack of guts...they do it because it makes strategic sense and is an integral part of the game...just ask Tom Coughlin.

The harder it is to score, the better. If I have to play 5 minute quarters and live with a lot of 17-14, 21-17 or even 10-7 type games, then so be it...if I want to score like an NFL game, I should have to play closer to 15 minute quarters. There's always a trade-off, but if the game remained as ridiculously easy on offense as its been for the last few years, its just too damn boring. In Madden 25, at least online, there is a certain sense that 2/3rd's of football is missing (defense and special teams)...at least this looks like the defense is getting some tools and the passing is made a little less automatic...couldn't be happier about that.

[jpdavis82]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

I'm not here to say I told you so guys, I just want everyone to have a good game of football. They still have work to do and you heard them admit that more than once. I still think this is just the turning point, it will get better from here IMO


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[mvb34]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

Does anywhere I see the stream? I miss it

[pacman5769]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

LOL one of the MUT tourny guys found a glitch already and they are working on it..hopefully they will patch more this year as the glitches are being found and we all know there will be some

[jpdavis82]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

Does anywhere I see the stream? I miss it

http://www.twitch.tv/easports/b/548832711

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[kehlis]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

I'm not here to say I told you so guys,

Good, because you've been telling us "so" for years now.


Glad that it looks like after many years of this you might finally be right.

[jyoung]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

This was a very informative stream, with lots of great gameplay examples and development insights.

Thank you, EA, for not wasting people's time, like several other sports games' streams have recently.

[NicVirtue]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

I'm really confused as to why they think DB's are passive aggressive against jump balls when in fact they have been the opposite while WR's were the ones just waiting for the ball to fall into their hands. DB's always had more right to the ball the WR's, but i'm glad they've added a swat mechanic for receivers, FINALLY, so that they can turn into defenders when needed....took them long enough. Still not spending $60 on it cause we should have been had all this and more.

[RogueHominid]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

I'm convinced the football knowledge is there, having watched that. Now it's just a matter of getting all of that knowledge into the game - and it seems like they're definitely making progress there with this year's game.

It does back up the statement that EA is committed to making this a sim game.

Very well put. That's what I liked about him in particular--he took questions on the fly, answered them with football concepts that made sense, and didn't sound like he was giving a pre-scripted, vetted, marketing-hype response.

[oneamongthefence]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

Could this be the first year where out of the box Madden plays like it should? I hope so. Now bring on CFM news and then we'll be in business.

[TTD71]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

I'm not here to say I told you so guys, I just want everyone to have a good game of football. They still have work to do and you heard them admit that more than once. I still think this is just the turning point, it will get better from here IMO


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I can see where SOME of your enthusiasm comes from after watching that video...not ALL of it though, you're still amped more than I will allow myself to be.

I have seen similar things in the past (not as MANY in one year mind you), but the real proof is going to be in the weeks after the game gets out into the wild and H2H, online and CFM guys really dig into it. I love the added tools given to the game and the focus on balancing things out; that alone is worthy of praise and glad to see these guys standing up and saying that what they have is a start - now its on EA to get the the support and more importantly to avoid weak knees if too many 12-14 year olds freak because they can't get 350 yards passing and 6TDs in a 20 minute game...if EA holds that line (getting more in on realism and less on satisfying ADD casuals), AND adds the things that they are talking about, THEN I will say you've been right all along...but I definitely can see reason for optimism more now.

[SoxFan01605]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

The last game I put any time in was 12. I gave 13 a try, but had no intentions of buying given some of the options removed. Didn;t even take 25 seriously as I was done with the previous gen and nothing about the "next gen" version stood out.

All that to say this: I am definitely intrigued by 15. I still see a lot I don't like (for the love of God one of these years has to be a blow-out, all-in type of focus on animations), but they seemed to have addressed a lot of core aspects.

Add in the fact that Rex is openly and directly acknowledging flaws BEFORE THEY ARE ADDRESSED (as in, not just "yeah, last year sucked but now..." PR stuff...something I appreciated about Ian when he interacted here) while breaking down both the intention and execution of various adjustments has me actually hopeful for upcoming iterations. For a series that has been so reactive in it's development, I'm happy to see a lot more proactive and focused progression.

I still don't know where I stand on purchasing 15, but I'm definitely impressed with the effort so far and Madden is back on my radar.

[4thQtrStre5S]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

Another thing I loved was the coverage disguise system; and the pre-made plays to stop particular routes; thus allowing the player on defense to predict or catch on to the opponents tendency and call the right counter play; instead of having to find the opponents tendencies, call a base play and call a bunch of individual adjustments that took much too long compared to the speed of the offense to call audibles and snap the ball....

Thus again, the delay between offensive audible calls - a HUGE improvement in the direction of sim football...IMO

Rex is winning me over...I have already pre-ordered my M15...I have never pre-ordered this early for any game...

[wordtobigbird]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

LOL one of the MUT tourny guys found a glitch already and they are working on it..hopefully they will patch more this year as the glitches are being found and we all know there will be some

what was the glitch?