Madden NFL 15 Top 5 Quarterbacks

[mrprice33]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Top 5 Quarterbacks

Brady's 2013 passer rankings

21st in completion %
22nd in TD %
7th in INT%
20th in YPA
17th in QB Rating
11th in QBR

[charter04]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Top 5 Quarterbacks

Brady's 2013 passer rankings

21st in completion %
22nd in TD %
7th in INT%
20th in YPA
17th in QB Rating
11th in QBR

And your point is? Look who his receivers were most of the year. The defense wasn't good and he had just an OK supporting cast but, they got to the AFC championship game. Can't base ratings just on stat's. It's not Tecmo Bowl.

Edit: That sounded a little harsh. Sorry if it came out that way. I really was asking what your point of posting the stat's are. Just wanted to clarify that I didn't mean to sound snappy. lol

[Cowboy008]

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What would be a good roster to use once M15 comes out?

[JetLife6]

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lol russell wilson was on a run HEAVY team and had a great defense backing him up. he was rarely asked to put the team on his back to win a game nor did he really.

tom on the other hand, had kenbrell tompkins and aaron dobson as his main receiving targets for roughly 1/4 of the season.

madden's ratings have always ranked amongst the worst of all sports video games.

and what makes it even worse is the balance and fairness of ratings in games like FIFA which is also produced by EA. arguably the best player in the world in soccer is rated a 94 in the game.

yeah madden's ratings are just baffling. I would love for Manning to be 94. brady 92...etc. more varied and realistic ratings.

They really need to overhaul how they rate players. Basically in all sports video games. the 1-100 scale doesn't have a lot of room for differentiation. Up until this point.. 2 93 overall players basically play pretty much the same

[mrprice33]

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And your point is? Look who his receivers were most of the year. The defense wasn't good and he had just an OK supporting cast but, they got to the AFC championship game. Can't base ratings just on stat's. It's not Tecmo Bowl.

By his own standards he had a bad year.

2nd worst completion % of his career
Worst TD% of his career
3rd worst YPA of his career
4th worst QB Rating of his career

His AV (which you can read about here) was the 3rd worst of his career.

He's going to be 37 before the season starts, and, by any measure, he had an average-to-below-average year last season. When you couple that with Wilson's ability as a runner, are you really that surprised that they're rated the same?

Besides, don't we all agree that OVR is kinda irrelevant anyway?

edit: BTW, the defense not being good actually hurts his case for a high rating more than you'd think. They had the second-most plays in the NFL, which helps numbers like raw passing yards, points per game, etc. His efficiency is the alarming part. The pats ranked 10th in pass attempts. Of the 10 teams above them, they ranked 9th in completion %, 9th in td%, 3rd in INT%, last in YPA, 9th in qbrating

[MajorSupreme]

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Brady's 2013 passer rankings

21st in completion %
22nd in TD %
7th in INT%
20th in YPA
17th in QB Rating
11th in QBR

Tom Brady when Gronkowski wasn't hurt:
182/284 (64%), 2205 yards, 13 touchdowns, 5 interceptions.

He was throwing to whom those 9 games while Gronk was hurt? Julian Edelman (who is only now considered a #1 WR), Danny "Damaged" Amendola, Aaron "Dropson" who I believe was second in drops for a while, Kenbrell Thompkins, played 12 games, Josh Boyce played only 9 games. Didn't help Ridley was fumbling games away, either. And still got to the AFC championship, for the third straight year. This isn't me being a Pats fan, these are facts.

[jmurphy31]

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Here's my thoughts on the ratings.

I dislike Peyton Manning more than any other player. If he's not a 99 based off of stats (that's why Donny said brady was so low) then there should be no one at 99. He broke the two biggest passing records before the last week of the season.

Now to Brady. As others have said he has to do more with less. Look at the broncos regular season game, the saints game, and so on. I will admit his deep ball has fallen off, but again he basically has all slot WRs.

Don't think Wilson belongs in the top 5. Let's see how good he is once he's making top dollar and it hinders the hawks cap space.

The good thing is it kind of looks like the ratings aren't too high. The past few years it seemed like 12-15 QBs were rated 90+.

[jmurphy31]

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Here's my thoughts on the ratings.

I dislike Peyton Manning more than any other player. If he's not a 99 based off of stats (that's why Donny said brady was so low) then there should be no one at 99. He broke the two biggest passing records before the last week of the season.

Now to Brady. As others have said he has to do more with less. Look at the broncos regular season game, the saints game, and so on. I will admit his deep ball has fallen off, but again he basically has all slot WRs.

Don't think Wilson belongs in the top 5. Let's see how good he is once he's making top dollar and it hinders the hawks cap space.

The good thing is it kind of looks like the ratings aren't too high. The past few years it seemed like 12-15 QBs were rated 90+.

The patriots also were 2nd in the NFL in drops.

[MajorSupreme]

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The patriots also were 2nd in the NFL in drops.

Aaron Dobson, who was a second-target for Brady early in the season was second in drop rate (23.53, 8 drops of 34 catchable passes). How are you gonna throw 55 touchdowns with stuff like that happening.

[MossMan84]

I can't stand the Patriots but I have more respect for Brady than any other player in the NFL. Look at who he had to throw to last year with Gronk out so much. Edelman is a nice player but come on. Who did more with less? Brady makes more millionaires than the lotto. If you don't believe me just wait and see what happens when he retires. The whole "Patriot Way" crap is bogus. Tom Brady is the Patriots. Just my opinion though.

Again, it really doesn't matter though. Obviously awareness doesn't affect user controlled players (though I wish there was a way for it to be able to) so we just gots hope the accuracy overhaul they are touting is legit so QBs play like they should

Must be some kind of bias against Brady! Brady should be #1 or #2 with ease maybe a 97. Manning is awesome but struggles in most of the bigger pressure games e.g. @Ind @NE and in the Super Bowl. I like Rogers n Brees too but just slightly behind the legend Brady!

Brady 97
Manning 97
Brees 95
Rogers 95
Wilson 88

[mrprice33]

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The patriots also were 2nd in the NFL in drops.

Yep. 41 drops, 6.6 % drop rate. The average for the NFL was 4.6%. Let's say you give him those 13 receptions back (4.6 of 619 attempts is 28 drops).

His completion % rises to 62.5.
TD% rises to 4.1
YPA rises to 7.15

Rating probably goes up a little because of all of these factors.

He still doesn't sniff the top 15 in terms of qb performance last year. 93 is a great rating, and if he didn't have the body of work that he does, it'd probably be too high considering his age and dropoff.

[charter04]

Madden NFL 15 Top 5 Quarterbacks

By his own standards he had a bad year.

2nd worst completion % of his career
Worst TD% of his career
3rd worst YPA of his career
4th worst QB Rating of his career

His AV (which you can read about here) was the 3rd worst of his career.

He's going to be 37 before the season starts, and, by any measure, he had an average-to-below-average year last season. When you couple that with Wilson's ability as a runner, are you really that surprised that they're rated the same?

Besides, don't we all agree that OVR is kinda irrelevant anyway?

edit: BTW, the defense not being good actually hurts his case for a high rating more than you'd think. They had the second-most plays in the NFL, which helps numbers like raw passing yards, points per game, etc. His efficiency is the alarming part. The pats ranked 10th in pass attempts. Of the 10 teams above them, they ranked 9th in completion %, 9th in td%, 3rd in INT%, last in YPA, 9th in qbrating

Well, his standard is one of the best ever. So below his standard is still better than Wilson who clearly doesn't have the same responsibility as Brady. Numbers lie.

I agree about the overall. EA has a very strange system. I'm not even trying to knock Wilson. He's really good but, if Brady and Wilson would have switch teams last year Seattle becomes even better but, NE might not make the playoffs. That's my Opinion based on complete hypothetical's.

[mrprice33]

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Must be some kind of bias against Brady! Brady should be #1 or #2 with ease maybe a 97. Manning is awesome but struggles in most of the bigger pressure games e.g. @Ind @NE and in the Super Bowl. I like Rogers n Brees too but just slightly behind the legend Brady!

Brady 97
Manning 97
Brees 95
Rogers 95
Wilson 88

Honestly this doesn't have anything to do with anything.

[charter04]

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If anything doing the ratings releases gives us an opportunity for some friendly debat. It's not like there is much else to do this time of year. Lol

[mrprice33]

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Well stand is one of the best ever. So below his standard is still better than Wilson who clearly doesn't have the same responsibility as Brady. Numbers lie.

I agree about the overall. EA has a very strange system. I'm not even trying to knock Wilson. He's really good but, if Brady and Wilson would have switch teams last year Seattle becomes even better but, NE might not make the playoffs. That's my Opinion based on complete hypothetical's.

They lie in many different ways, especially raw numbers, which is why I'm staying away from them. But when you look at the other offenses that throw as much as the pats, and how much better they were at it than the pats, it's alarming, is all I'm saying. Sure, their receivers were a mess, but his receivers have been a mess before. Their running game, however, was better than it has been in a long time (they had a better YPC and lower fumble rate than the Seahawks, for example).