Madden NFL 15 Top 5 Quarterbacks

[ggsimmonds]

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Russell Wilson should be nowhere close to the 4th highest QB in the league. He's good, not elite. His TEAM was elite. They could've won the Super Bowl with just about every other starting QB in the league last year. Brady, Luck, and Newton are just 3 that should be rated much higher than him. He should be around 80, but no EA has to try and satisfy everyone which skews and ruins all of the ratings.

Wait...what? Seems odd seeing his name in the discussion.

**looks at posters avatar**

Oh nevermind, carry on.

[jpdavis82]

Madden NFL 15 Top 5 Quarterbacks

im not sure if it's just me but it irks me that madden continually puts an elbow band on aaron rodgers. never have i seen him ever wear one, sure he wears a forearm band occasionally but never something wrapped on his elbow.

I tweeted this to Kane and Aaron Rodgers actually favorited it😃





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[friscob]

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Manning, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Flacco, Rivers, Manning, Luck, Ryan should be the top 10. Wilson should be in the top 15 sure but 93 with Brady?? hell no!..

Flacco lol. Hell of a sb run he had, other than that hes been avg to below avg his entire career. And eli in the top 10 is hilarious

1a Brady
1b Rodgers
3. Peyton
4. Brees
5. Big Ben
6. Matt Ryan
7. Rivers
8. Romo
9. Russ
10. Cam/Luck

[mrprice33]

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hahaha. Sloppy with the ball? You clearly don't watch NFL. He's thrown for 5000+ yards 3 years in a row. 39 TDs last season and only 12 interceptions. He doesn't have an argument to put Wilson with any of the 3. Rodgers was the one with just 17 touchdowns last year.

2013 and 2011 saw Brees in the top 10 in INT rate.

2012 and 2010 saw him in the 20s in INT rate.

And...uhhhh, Rodgers played in 9 games last year. Cool avatar though bro.

[bucky60]

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Yep. 41 drops, 6.6 % drop rate. The average for the NFL was 4.6%. Let's say you give him those 13 receptions back (4.6 of 619 attempts is 28 drops).

His completion % rises to 62.5.
TD% rises to 4.1
YPA rises to 7.15

Rating probably goes up a little because of all of these factors.

He still doesn't sniff the top 15 in terms of qb performance last year. 93 is a great rating, and if he didn't have the body of work that he does, it'd probably be too high considering his age and dropoff.

You would need to factor in, somehow, the number of drive killing drops that reduce the # of offensive plays for your team. That would add completions, TD's etc.

[bucky60]

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I agree with this. It's kind of like the "Styles make fights" argument. Kaepernick and Wilson aren't better quarterbacks than Manning or Brady. However, against the Seahawks Kaepernick is better than Manning because of his athleticism and ability to match up physically to the Seahawks. Who was better? Manning in the Superbowl or Kaepernick in the NFC championship game vs the Seahawks? And no I'm not speaking of pure stats. I'm speaking of effectiveness, i.e. a tipped pass away from winning vs getting blown out.

Same can be said for Wilson. He was better against the Broncos in the Superbowl than Brady was vs the Broncos in the AFC championship game. Why? Because when Brady got pressured he was rendered pretty much helpless because he can't move. When Wilson got pressured vs the Broncos he escaped the pocket, bought a little extra time and converted several crucial 3rd downs.

One thing you all are missing is which QB's were still in there rookie contract. To really know how good the QB is, you have to wait for the QB to eat up much more of the salary cap where that extra money can't go into team depth. That's when you find the true value of the QB.

[mrprice33]

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You would need to factor in, somehow, the number of drive killing drops that reduce the # of offensive plays for your team. That would add completions, TD's etc.

Perhaps, but as a whole, you're talking about less than 1 per game more compared to league average. Without the precise context of every drop, it's impossible to say. You'd also have to then do the same thing for every other QB, and I'd imagine all numbers would rise a little bit. He may wind up in the same place, roughly.

[bucky60]

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hahaha. Sloppy with the ball? You clearly don't watch NFL. He's thrown for 5000+ yards 3 years in a row. 39 TDs last season and only 12 interceptions. He doesn't have an argument to put Wilson with any of the 3. Rodgers was the one with just 17 touchdowns last year.

You should double Rogers TD's. He was out half the season.

[bucky60]

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Perhaps, but as a whole, you're talking about less than 1 per game more compared to league average. Without the precise context of every drop, it's impossible to say. You'd also have to then do the same thing for every other QB, and I'd imagine all numbers would rise a little bit. He may wind up in the same place, roughly.

I think a team that has a lot of drops wouldn't roughly end up the same as a team with few drops. 1 per game more? What, completions? TD? I think it would come out to more than 1 completion.

[mrprice33]

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I think a team that has a lot of drops wouldn't roughly end up the same as a team with few drops. 1 per game more? What, completions? TD? I think it would come out to more than 1 completion.

They had 13 more drops over a 16 game season than the league average. It's less than 1 per game.

[underdog13]

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Remember Guys speed inflates the qb's OVR.

[Cavicchi]

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Lots of dismay shot Wilson's way--hey, that rhymes!

Well, which elite QB had a worse receiver core? which elite QB had a worse offensive line? The Seahawks offensive line is much better at run blocking than pass blocking.

[Bootzilla]

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One thing you all are missing is which QB's were still in there rookie contract. To really know how good the QB is, you have to wait for the QB to eat up much more of the salary cap where that extra money can't go into team depth. That's when you find the true value of the QB.

I agree that teams with good young quarterbacks on rookie contracts allow them to potentially field more talent around them.

However, Manning eats up a lot of cap space but according to CBS sports top 100 players in the NFL, the Broncos have the most players in the top 100 (Manning, Clady, Vasquez, D. Thomas, V. Miller, D. Ware, Talib, Ward). So, it is possible to field a strong team even if your quarterback has a big cap number.

My premise is this. The extra athleticism that Wilson, Kap, Luck, Rodgers, Cam have helps them against elite defenses. So, against most teams Brady and Manning will produce better numbers than a lot of these guys but, I may take those other guys vs the elite defenses.

Again, the examples I used were Brady vs the Broncos in the AFC championship and Wilson vs those same Broncos in the Superbowl. Wilson converted more 1st downs. Kept drives alive. And I'm sorry but Doug Baldwin and Golden Tate aren't any better than Edelman and Amendola. The extra time Wilson afforded them vs what Brady could provide was really the diffference. Neither the Hawks or Pats could generate a running game.

[Dirk5049ers]

Russell Wilson is a 93??? Are the ratings guys smoking crack??? Look at his stats for 2013. They're on par with Kaepernick's, not Brady.

[Yuss]

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Russell Wilson 407 ATT 63.1 3,357 26 TD 9 Int
Tom Brady 628 ATT 60.5 25 TD 11 INT