Madden NFL 15 Top 5 Running Backs and Fullbacks

[Iceman87GT]

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I believe it's how easily (quickly)you can run left,right with the left stick alone. Or something of that nature

Slipping tackles, ability to run laterally is affected by multiple ratings (speed, acceleration, agility: running laterally is no different than regular running, the tough part is changing direction). Elusiveness determines how elusive you're back is, ability to slip tackles, how difficult it is to wrap you up, etc.

[Gagnon39]

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I see Madden is still going with the enormous and non-accurate stripes on the Bears jerseys. Sheesh, that looks awful.

[MossMan84]

This is where the madden ratings really show their ugliness: John Kuhn is on par with Tom Brady too! If it wasnt bad enough that Wilson was on par with Brady now he is competing with FBs. Your rating shouldnt go by position and I dont think it does? If Brady is a 93 by Maddens ratings then Kuhn should be closer to 80 and Wilson closer to 85. The ratings are broken in the sense that when you turn up a certain ability for a position it inflates their overall too much! Like I imagine if you crank up run blocking for your FB it makes your overall go up more than it should and this happens with most positions. Just like if I turn my kickers kick power and accuracy up to 99s he is a 99! My kicker should not be a 99 and the best rated player on my team! Even if I have the best kicker in the league I would still only expect him to be 85ish. There could be exceptions if you had a kicker that was kicking 10 plus 65 yard FGs a season, carrying the team on his back kicking 4 or 5 FGs per game, hitting the game winner week in and week out! Then maybe we give him a 90 rating. Im not saying that any position is better than any other but the best players should be rated the highest regardless of position and a lot might go into determining that but what I have stated is irrefutable if common sense is involved.

[Iceman87GT]

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This is where the madden ratings really show their ugliness: John Kuhn is on par with Tom Brady too! If it wasnt bad enough that Wilson was on par with Brady now he is competing with FBs. Your rating shouldnt go by position and I dont think it does? If Brady is a 93 by Maddens ratings then Kuhn should be closer to 80 and Wilson closer to 85. The ratings are broken in the sense that when you turn up a certain ability for a position it inflates their overall too much! Like I imagine if you crank up run blocking for your FB it makes your overall go up more than it should and this happens with most positions. Just like if I turn my kickers kick power and accuracy up to 99s he is a 99! My kicker should not be a 99 and the best rated player on my team! Even if I have the best kicker in the league I would still only expect him to be 85ish. There could be exceptions if you had a kicker that was kicking 10 plus 65 yard FGs a season, carrying the team on his back kicking 4 or 5 FGs per game, hitting the game winner week in and week out! Then maybe we give him a 90 rating. Im not saying that any position is better than any other but the best players should be rated the highest regardless of position and a lot might go into determining that but what I have stated is irrefutable if common sense is involved.

Rating players by position makes perfect sense. Kickers are not expected to do anything but kick, if they can tackle that is a bonus but the hope is that you would never need them to tackle anyone. It makes no sense to rate a kicker with 99 Kick Power and Accuracy, as well as 99 Awareness as anything but a 99 OVR, if you line him up at any other position then his rating will drop fast.

The only way your proposal makes sense is if players were divided by role: OL, DL, LB, DB, etc. Even then you'd still like to see how much better they stack up at different positions so position ratings would still be needed. I feel that doing this would make things simpler in determining who is the better Offensive Lineman/Defensive Lineman, but would be useless in determining whether or not they would work at a certain position along the Offensive or Defensive line, DT are very different from DEs, OT are different from OG, which are significantly different from Centers. Basically you are arguing for a simplistic rating system that doesn't actually do anything to improve how players are evaluated. Football is full of specialized position which really limits the ability to rate players as though they are all equal.

I would be in favor of toning down ratings (i.e. FIFA), they had toned down players at the beginning of Ultimate Team this year and it really made you focus on your strategy (you had to consider chemistry because you couldn't just stack the OL and run on them, at least not at the beginning). But even in that situation a Kicker with 99 in the 3 categories that they have for measuring Kicking ability should be a 99 Overall.

[Ueauvan]

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surprised a Miller isnt there

[Mauer4MVP]

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That Iverson or Wright play was with the team's entire season on the line? If Kuhn doesn't get that block on Peppers, Bears win division and make the playoffs.

Of course, this is simply one small sample of Kuhn's greatness at the fullback position. Key blocks at crucial moments.

KUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHN!

Sorry, I guess I should have posted a video of David Tyree

[DeuceDouglas]

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Sorry, I guess I should have posted a video of David Tyree

Jump Rating: -7

[Packers4U]

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[QUOTE=Mauer4MVP;2046417338]Sorry, I guess I should have posted a video of David Tyree



Yep, at least that would have been relevant.

Although no one ever considered Tyree one of the best at his position. He never caught more than 19 passes in a season...ever. He did make the Pro Bowl one year for special teams.

[Birdman85]

Forte has been overrated for so long now.

[Sheba2011]

The fact that he took the depleted Pats team to the AFC Championship/Super Bowl 3 Years in a row shows me that he is just as dominant as ever, if not more. Unfortunately, he's pretty much asked to carry that entire team by himself. But hey, it's easy to hate on Tom. I wouldn't be surprised if the same happens with Russell when everyone jumps onto the next bandwagon.

And RBs are not put under nearly as much criticism as QBs. That's my guess as to why AP hasn't been dealt the same cards this time around. Either way, both are deserving of top spots.

Again I could really care less because I edit it every one down so 90+ players are few and far between. But the Brady/Patriots hate is always good for a laugh.

[HingleMcCringleberry]

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Again I could really care less because I edit it every one down so 90+ players are few and far between. But the Brady/Patriots hate is always good for a laugh.

I do the exact same thing with the ratings. And I believe that in order for Madden to become the "simulation" game it claims itself to be, they should consider doing the exact same thing. They rate half the players in the league as if they are all-pros, which in turn makes a lot of players and teams feel exactly the same as one another. Not only that, but everyone in Madden is soooo fast. It's stuff like this that ruins the game for me. And I doubt that I am the only one who feels this way.

[underdog13]

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Forte has been overrated for so long now.

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[Demoncrom]

Forte finally getting his due. The man WAS the Bears offense since he first suited up with the team up until last year and even then with the emergence of a passing game he just missed 2000 all purpose yards. People saying he was a surprise obviously know NOTHING about football and surely never look at the stats Dude is just consistent and one of the last all around workhorse backs in the league. Run, Catch and Block , Matt does it all.

Now lets see those wideouts. If they look at the yds then Alshon Jeffery should be 6th in the league. If not then by Receptions Brandon Marshal is 5 and Alshon is 10 on the list. BEAR DOWN!