Some Madden NFL 15 Connected Franchise Details Have Been Revealed

[lopey986]

Re: Some Madden NFL 15 Connected Franchise Details Have Been Revealed

If Devin Hester transformed into Calvin Johnson, regardless of the scheme, in last years game then you were definitely using the wrong sliders lol.

This was simply while simulating games, NOT playing them. Though playing with guys with higher speed has always been easier in madden.

[charter04]

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I'm curious to find out more and I want to see how these additions will work but, it sounds promising for sure. Since Madden 25 I have played mostly online dynasty against humans so anything to better and already fun experience is welcome.

I just hope they have tuned and improved the xp system all together. I'm not a fan of it but, it's going to be the way things work for a while I'm sure. I just want them to make things work more like NFL head coach did.

[thudias]

Re: CFM info from gamestop

Same here. I miss where players would progress/regress every 4 weeks I believe it was.

you can still do that... every 4 weeks just go through your players and have the AI apply all the XP.

[countryboy]

Re: CFM info from gamestop

you can still do that... every 4 weeks just go through your players and have the AI apply all the XP.

I was piggybacking on Pappy Knuckles post where he missed the old system that didn't use the XP. I was saying how I liked that they would progress/regress automatically every 4 weeks.

[volstopfan14]

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And I worry that this practice stuff has been added as the sole development aspect of players and things like coaching staffs and other management aspects have been completely ignored. But like I said, I don't want to be too negative yet given we don't know anything. I'm just nervous about that info since it is the most important to me. Can't wait for the demo though.

This is pretty much where I'm at. I'm trying not to be negative, but if this is all there is I'm gonna be pretty disappointed.

[totalpoop]

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He was referring to the fact that the scheme changes a player'a OVR but doesn't make him a better player, just a better fit in a scheme. It works correctly in most situations, there might be a few things that seem off, but for the most part it works well. If you play the games, it doesn't change the way the player plays at all. The scheme shows that a player like Vince Wilfork would be a better player as a 3-4 NT than as a 4-3 pass rushing DT. It shows that Robert Quinn would be a better 4-3 DE than a 3-4 run stuffer. It allows a player to see the best player for what they are trying to do in their scheme.

once again we're talking about simulating the games.

[Darkwolf90]

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I've noticed a lot of people commenting about how the Schemes effect players overalls, but I haven't noticed anyone commenting about it for the reasons I dislike them, so I'll just throw in my $0.02. While I don't like that it drops guys ratings by so many points, I know how to work around that for my team. Not to mention I look for players I know are good rather then looking for the highest overall. The CPU doesn't see things the same way I do, all the CPU sees is the Overall, leading them to cut players like Dexter McCluster, who is a great Punt/Kick Returner, or Willis McGahee, the list goes on.

In M25 I've seen Charles Woodson cut, and without fail if I'm not controlling the 49ers they cut Kendall Hunter and the next year they cut Frank Gore. To me that is annoying and wouldn't happen in the real NFL, nor would it happen in Madden if changing schemes didn't cause players ratings to drop so many points.

I can understand some changes in rating for different and new schemes. But not as huge a drop off, and all players should fit the scheme of the team they are playing for at the beginning of a CFM. After all they go through training camp and learn new schemes, or get better at their roles with that team and the schemes they use.

[MossMan84]

I miss the days of auto progression/regression in Madden. I haven't been a fan of this XP system since it's been implemented.

Ya I like the idea of the old progression system; It just needed to be tuned a little bit. This xp system seems so generic. Thats one thing that is different about the madden of today: the feeling of generics!

[jbd345]

Re: Some Madden NFL 15 Connected Franchise Details Have Been Revealed

Darn, no mention of score ticker or in game breaks. Looks like more and more that, that presentation feature that's still under wraps will be the Super Bowl celebration. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but was hoping for deeper CFM presentstion.

[footbrawl]

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I'd like to see a change in scouting. My one problem is that they don't give you combine results like they used to. I have to scout a guy to see his speed instead being able to look at his 40. I just think it's based to much on you. It's not like you're the only one scouting so you should be able to know how most players play with about 10-15 over under. Scouting should take less time and be more specific per player but just because you focus on 5-10 guys doesn't mean you can't no **** about anyone else. Maybe an automated scouter where you can say what type of players you're looking for.

Other than that I liked the franchise mode except for some minor things. It'd be nice to see some fun things added in just cause why not? 2k always had cool stuff like playing the senior bowl, draft cutscenes, broadcast reports, and I wish training camp was still playable.

[charter04]

Some Madden NFL 15 Connected Franchise Details Have Been Revealed

I'd like to see a change in scouting. My one problem is that they don't give you combine results like they used to. I have to scout a guy to see his speed instead being able to look at his 40. I just think it's based to much on you. It's not like you're the only one scouting so you should be able to know how most players play with about 10-15 over under. Scouting should take less time and be more specific per player but just because you focus on 5-10 guys doesn't mean you can't no **** about anyone else. Maybe an automated scouter where you can say what type of players you're looking for.

Other than that I liked the franchise mode except for some minor things. It'd be nice to see some fun things added in just cause why not? 2k always had cool stuff like playing the senior bowl, draft cutscenes, broadcast reports, and I wish training camp was still playable.

This has been by far my biggest problem with CFM. I can't even begin to understand why they decided to not give us info even casual fans have access to. All measurable's should be available for every player going into the draft.

[BreakingBad2013]

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I'm sorry, but I can't be excited for Franchise news. There's ONE thing that Madden needs to do before it can be considered a good franchise mode. Its one thing that encompasses real life football.

Unpredictability

The NFL, and sports and general are exciting because you NEVER know what is going to happen. People thought the Broncos would win this past years SuperBowl, but they got blown out by a defense-first team. You have Huge draft busts, and huge draft sleepers that are the true make-up on the NFL off-season. You have QB battles in Pre-Season and Training Camp that have spectators clamoring until "their guy" wins or loses the starting job. You have players like Michael Vick who have been injury plagued and teams have to account for that risk. You have personalities on teams that mesh and don't mesh with others. Off-the-field problems. etc.

How can we manufacture unpredictability?

MAKE RATINGS MATTER!

The Personality Trait, Confidence Trait, and all other attributes should mean something, wouldn't ya think?

I want to know that when Peyton Manning goes down, even if its for a Quarter, that I have to change my entire gameplan, I have to find a way to manage this game, to eek out a win, or to at least keep my team in it for a while.

I want to feel that I have a liability on the field if I actually do. If there's a CB or Safety that is terrible at coverage, but super-fast, I want to know that I can target him with my WR, or have help over top if I have the said CB.

If ratings mattered, you could specifically target your team's weak-spots through game play, not just the ratings that you see on the screen. I want to FEEL that I need to address certain positions in the Draft in Free Agency. If ratings mattered, it would vastly improve the entire experience of the Madden Connected Franchise mode. More so than perfect commentary, perfect graphics, weekly prep, or even a highly desired half-time show.

Until this happens, CFM cannot function as a SIM Mode.

Imagine you draft a guy with 5 confidence, but 1 personality, and he doesn't mesh with his teammates, he'd have to get into a certain system to reach his maximum potential, where everyone is one his side, or a cast around him that is similar.

Imagine, you have ratings that are accurately transferred from the visual number, to the physical on the field. A rating system that is simple percentages. They are over-complicating the process, and a lot of ratings are over shadowed.

Here's my Theory:

Make all ratings a percentage between 1-99, if you have a QB with 95 Throw Power, make him be able to thrown 95% of the possible throwing length (wether it me 80 yards, 70, 65 yards etc.) Whatever the MAX Throwing Distance is, he should be able to the said percentage. Colt McCoy, at a 40% throwing power can only cover 40% of that field length, anything beyond should be short, or off-target.

As for most attributes it'd be an if-then scenario of basic math. A WR with 37 Catch should drop almost 60% of his targets, this would be someone very low on the depth chart, if even on the team.

If there I have a top flight CB with 98 Man Coverage, it should mean that in 98% of his snaps, he will be tight with his man, this percentage could be per season or per game.

If I have a RB with 60 CAR and 80 TRK, every game he should have a 40% chance at fumbling the ball, while having an 80% chance to brute his way through a defender.

If the ratings tied, it would literally just be a 50-50 toss up, hopefully based on position, momentum, and clear physics. If I have AP and Luke Keuchly one on one in open field, positioning, momentum would be the only factor at that point (If the Breaking Tackles and Tackling rating were even)

As for OVERALL, it would still be a percentage. Being an 80 overall, would mean that you are in the top 1/5 of the league. If you are a 50 OVR you are probably a tweener just struggling to have a spot as a backup, or worse. If you are 25-30% or lower you are fighting for your spot through Practice, Special Teams, and barely making the team year to year. Some teams probably have 50s and 60s on their teams as starters, due to lack of talent. For example, the Browns' running backs and QBs last year, all were probably backups on most other teams, therefore the team would take heavily consider signing an improvement at each position sometime in the off-season (As they did).

This would clearly separate Cam Newton and Matt Cassell. Patrick Willis and Stewart Bradley. Vince Wilfork and Mike Patterson. Calvin Johnson and James Hardy. We don't even have to be that drastic, what if we were splitting hairs between someone like Darren McFadden and MJD, or Matt Stafford and Matt Ryan. Maybe its Patrick Peterson and Vontae Davis you're comparing, they'd both be good, but certain ratings would probably separate them entirely. If you find that you prefer a stronger QB, and Stafford has the strength, but Ryan has more accuracy, would it tip your scales to lean towards someone a bit stronger?

The confidence rating will make or break a player, if you draft a player that has a 1 confidence, maybe he will progress slower, he won't get off the edge as fast, or break on a ball quickly, maybe he will alligator arm a pass, or go down easier as a ball carrier.

The Personality rating will matter as well, if you have a big personality guy, that doesn't back it up, maybe his overall goes down, or teams don't look to obtain him because of his character issue. Or If there is someone that has high personality, and high skill, that make owners clamor to sign him, to sell jerseys, and boost the entire team's confidence by having such a statement player on their team.

With the new rating system, injuries are more devastating, off-season is more strategical, and important, and game play is that much better, finding mis-matches and knowing your team's strengths and or, liabilities.

Lastly, hide all player ratings. Go off of college stats, in detail, combines, pro-days, and rely on your scouts to tell you specific info/player comparisons. This would widely change the hit or miss unpredictability of the draft, and you'll have to go on pure GUT feeling with a lot of guys. If there's a WR that ran a 4.40, at 6'3 220 but led CFB in drops and fumbles, maybe he's not the guy to draft, or he's a project player for the later rounds. Something like that would be quite entertaining, wouldn't it?

Until something of this nature is produced, Franchise mode will continue to be stale. The Owner Mode, the Highlight shows, the non-gameplay features will be all for not, without proper ratings.

[tdogg097]

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I really liked the idea of the XP system but if there aren't significant improvements this year I would prefer them to go back to the auto progress system. Practicing in M25 was cheating if there were CPU teams in the CFM. And then if you didn't practice your backups wouldn't progress.


If it doesn't work this year they should use a system similar to The Show and then incorporate the drills/practice in the offseason.

[michiganfan8620]

Re: Some Madden NFL 15 Connected Franchise Details Have Been Revealed

I'm sorry, but I can't be excited for Franchise news. There's ONE thing that Madden needs to do before it can be considered a good franchise mode. Its one thing that encompasses real life football.

Unpredictability

The NFL, and sports and general are exciting because you NEVER know what is going to happen. People thought the Broncos would win this past years SuperBowl, but they got blown out by a defense-first team. You have Huge draft busts, and huge draft sleepers that are the true make-up on the NFL off-season. You have QB battles in Pre-Season and Training Camp that have spectators clamoring until "their guy" wins or loses the starting job. You have players like Michael Vick who have been injury plagued and teams have to account for that risk. You have personalities on teams that mesh and don't mesh with others. Off-the-field problems. etc.

How can we manufacture unpredictability?

MAKE RATINGS MATTER!

The Personality Trait, Confidence Trait, and all other attributes should mean something, wouldn't ya think?

I want to know that when Peyton Manning goes down, even if its for a Quarter, that I have to change my entire gameplan, I have to find a way to manage this game, to eek out a win, or to at least keep my team in it for a while.

I want to feel that I have a liability on the field if I actually do. If there's a CB or Safety that is terrible at coverage, but super-fast, I want to know that I can target him with my WR, or have help over top if I have the said CB.

If ratings mattered, you could specifically target your team's weak-spots through game play, not just the ratings that you see on the screen. I want to FEEL that I need to address certain positions in the Draft in Free Agency. If ratings mattered, it would vastly improve the entire experience of the Madden Connected Franchise mode. More so than perfect commentary, perfect graphics, weekly prep, or even a highly desired half-time show.

Until this happens, CFM cannot function as a SIM Mode.

Imagine you draft a guy with 5 confidence, but 1 personality, and he doesn't mesh with his teammates, he'd have to get into a certain system to reach his maximum potential, where everyone is one his side, or a cast around him that is similar.

Imagine, you have ratings that are accurately transferred from the visual number, to the physical on the field. A rating system that is simple percentages. They are over-complicating the process, and a lot of ratings are over shadowed.

Here's my Theory:

Make all ratings a percentage between 1-99, if you have a QB with 95 Throw Power, make him be able to thrown 95% of the possible throwing length (wether it me 80 yards, 70, 65 yards etc.) Whatever the MAX Throwing Distance is, he should be able to the said percentage. Colt McCoy, at a 40% throwing power can only cover 40% of that field length, anything beyond should be short, or off-target.

As for most attributes it'd be an if-then scenario of basic math. A WR with 37 Catch should drop almost 60% of his targets, this would be someone very low on the depth chart, if even on the team.

If there I have a top flight CB with 98 Man Coverage, it should mean that in 98% of his snaps, he will be tight with his man, this percentage could be per season or per game.

If I have a RB with 60 CAR and 80 TRK, every game he should have a 40% chance at fumbling the ball, while having an 80% chance to brute his way through a defender.

If the ratings tied, it would literally just be a 50-50 toss up, hopefully based on position, momentum, and clear physics. If I have AP and Luke Keuchly one on one in open field, positioning, momentum would be the only factor at that point (If the Breaking Tackles and Tackling rating were even)

As for OVERALL, it would still be a percentage. Being an 80 overall, would mean that you are in the top 1/5 of the league. If you are a 50 OVR you are probably a tweener just struggling to have a spot as a backup, or worse. If you are 25-30% or lower you are fighting for your spot through Practice, Special Teams, and barely making the team year to year. Some teams probably have 50s and 60s on their teams as starters, due to lack of talent. For example, the Browns' running backs and QBs last year, all were probably backups on most other teams, therefore the team would take heavily consider signing an improvement at each position sometime in the off-season (As they did).

This would clearly separate Cam Newton and Matt Cassell. Patrick Willis and Stewart Bradley. Vince Wilfork and Mike Patterson. Calvin Johnson and James Hardy. We don't even have to be that drastic, what if we were splitting hairs between someone like Darren McFadden and MJD, or Matt Stafford and Matt Ryan. Maybe its Patrick Peterson and Vontae Davis you're comparing, they'd both be good, but certain ratings would probably separate them entirely. If you find that you prefer a stronger QB, and Stafford has the strength, but Ryan has more accuracy, would it tip your scales to lean towards someone a bit stronger?

The confidence rating will make or break a player, if you draft a player that has a 1 confidence, maybe he will progress slower, he won't get off the edge as fast, or break on a ball quickly, maybe he will alligator arm a pass, or go down easier as a ball carrier.

The Personality rating will matter as well, if you have a big personality guy, that doesn't back it up, maybe his overall goes down, or teams don't look to obtain him because of his character issue. Or If there is someone that has high personality, and high skill, that make owners clamor to sign him, to sell jerseys, and boost the entire team's confidence by having such a statement player on their team.

With the new rating system, injuries are more devastating, off-season is more strategical, and important, and game play is that much better, finding mis-matches and knowing your team's strengths and or, liabilities.

Lastly, hide all player ratings. Go off of college stats, in detail, combines, pro-days, and rely on your scouts to tell you specific info/player comparisons. This would widely change the hit or miss unpredictability of the draft, and you'll have to go on pure GUT feeling with a lot of guys. If there's a WR that ran a 4.40, at 6'3 220 but led CFB in drops and fumbles, maybe he's not the guy to draft, or he's a project player for the later rounds. Something like that would be quite entertaining, wouldn't it?

Until something of this nature is produced, Franchise mode will continue to be stale. The Owner Mode, the Highlight shows, the non-gameplay features will be all for not, without proper ratings.

First of all, most people who know more about football thought the Seahawks would win, it was the casual fans who don't really follow the game too in depth that thought the Broncos would blow out the Seahawks.

Second of all, the ratings do matter. A QB with 95 throw power can throw the ball deeper than a QB with 80 throw power. RB's with higher trucking are better at trucking than guys with lower trucking ratings. Your percentage idea would not work, no WR in the entire league drops 60% of their targets. Most WR's probably have a fairly similar drop per target ratio, thus making it so that system would provide no differentiation.

Ratings do separate players, its just that many people don't really pay attention enough to notice them. Yes, they are currently a bit too close together, but its not as big of a problem as it is made out to be. If the opponent has a terrible CB or safety, it is easy to exploit that, you just have to know how to do that, which apparently you don't know how to do.

And with the recent addition of draft stories, that last comment you made about going by stats and finding project players actually does sort of exist already, albeit not being too in depth and only involving a small portion of the draft class.

[Khanchus]

a few sentences that put a little hope in me that was beginning to disappear.

i feel left on the back burner

I am a CFM guy even though ill play tornaments or online games if im waiting for the week to advance or play against friends

If cfm does have a really good base and i hope they build on to it

but i am beginning to hate MUT more and more...cant blame EA for focusing on their money maker but man....some improvements or additions maybe hard coding wise but i think from december to beginning august is enough time to work out some kinks or what not.....

MUT ugh! i hate it i hate it i hate it.....people paying for a superstar team because most of the time they are to trash to even play with a regular team i hate it i hate it i hate it

I have a few friends that probably spent upwards of 1000$ last yr alone on madden MUT packs, so sickening... i can only imagine what the community is doing.... I played a friend who has 3 plays in his playbook and could never stand a chance to beat me....i tried out MUT and had a team like 74 overall....man i lost 31-3...fake fake fake lol off topic sorry.....

this one made me LOL i was watching clips of random friends playing M25 and most of the time they were playing MUT and 90% of the time maybe more when i was watching a clip it was the same ol play over and over again....no skills.... (sorry about my sort of off topic rant...carry on...)