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  • The JareBear
    Be Good To One Another
    • Jul 2010
    • 11574

    #196
    Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream - Presentation and Graphics

    I hear ya JP. My only question is, and this is an honest question, not trying to troll you or give you a hard time my man, but even though it's a user game, does that make it ok for CPU controlled players to be braindead?

    I do have a feeling this was an older build so I'm not quitting on Madden or anything, just trying to understand why I saw what I saw today.
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    • Darth Aegis
      Lord of Suffering
      • Jul 2012
      • 4171

      #197
      Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream - Presentation and Graphics

      Originally posted by The JareBear
      I pray you are wrong my man, but I fear you may be right.....

      I'm holding out hope. We will see what happens....
      I'm right there with ya man praying After the first stream I felt positive about madden for the first time in a long time, but after this one total opposite. Feels like same Madden all over again and nothing looks like the first stream.This doesn't even seem like this is playing on a PS4 colors look PS3ish. I just think if it was a earlier build why wouldn't they mention that at all? is my question
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      • Kramer5150
        Fear Me
        • Dec 2002
        • 7345

        #198
        Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream - Presentation and Graphics

        Originally posted by jpdavis82
        The AI issues people have mentioned for the Eagles Jags game are because it was user vs user.
        Then what's the excuse for the poor A.I in the first game? That certainly wasn't user vs user.

        Am I right when I mentioned the guy playing the cpu has no clue on how to call defenses?...and if that is the problem,then they should've got somebody in there that knows how to play defense and call plays at least based on the offensive formations.

        Because what was shown sure didn't show off the "improved" defense,and this was played on All Pro for crying out loud....
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        • Darth Aegis
          Lord of Suffering
          • Jul 2012
          • 4171

          #199
          Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream - Presentation and Graphics

          Originally posted by jpdavis82
          Well I don't know what build it was from but it wasn't retail, just got this from AJ.

          @jpdavis1982: @EASPORTS_AJ Hey man was the stream today from the retail build or an older build?

          @EASPORTS_AJ: @jpdavis1982 I don't have retail copies yet. Why do you ask?

          Now as far as people being disappointed today, other than the lower quality stream, I think the difference today was expectations.

          Most people had low expectations before the first stream. After last weeks stream the expectations were raised and anything that wasn't better than last week would be seen as meh or a step backwards. My expectations have been the same all along and I found today and the stream last week fairly similar.

          The AI issues people have mentioned for the Eagles Jags game are because it was user vs user.

          Most of the presentation was as I expected, half time show especially in the second game, looked pretty good. I'm hoping for CFM they will have some commentary about standings and playoff races.
          Man I hope this is all truth,they had to know we would freak about this lol
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          • DNMHIII
            MVP
            • Feb 2011
            • 2363

            #200
            Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream - Presentation and Graphics

            Originally posted by CowherPower
            Then what's the excuse for the poor A.I in the first game? That certainly wasn't user vs user.

            Am I right when I mentioned the guy playing the cpu has no clue on how to call defenses?...and if that is the problem,then they should've got somebody in there that knows how to play defense and call plays at least based on the offensive formations.

            Because what was shown sure didn't show off the "improved" defense,and this was played on All Pro for crying out loud....
            I think it was just to showcase Presentation and Graphics and they needed guys on hand that are responsible for those elements of the game. Still, I agree they should've had Rex there and that other guy they had in the last stream because watching gameplay with guys that know how to play is much different than watching guys that don't play the game much or very well.

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            • StefJoeHalt
              MVP
              • Feb 2014
              • 1060

              #201
              Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream - Presentation and Graphics

              Originally posted by CowherPower
              Then what's the excuse for the poor A.I in the first game? That certainly wasn't user vs user.



              Am I right when I mentioned the guy playing the cpu has no clue on how to call defenses?...and if that is the problem,then they should've got somebody in there that knows how to play defense and call plays at least based on the offensive formations.



              Because what was shown sure didn't show off the "improved" defense,and this was played on All Pro for crying out loud....

              After watching this and the Eagles Jags game..I was going to make the joke and say the reason for the open receivers was due to bad CB..but still bad overall..here is my question about "what build it was"...if it was an earlier build why show (one with Rex) a better build the week prior..then older build this week? Seems backwards right? Would want to build up to release no?
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              • Kramer5150
                Fear Me
                • Dec 2002
                • 7345

                #202
                Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream - Presentation and Graphics

                Originally posted by DNMHIII
                I think it was just to showcase Presentation and Graphics
                And this right here tells me that this "build" wasn't as "old" as some would like us to believe.
                If the whole premise was to show these things off,showing an "older build" doesn't make much sense at all.
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                • DNMHIII
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 2363

                  #203
                  Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream - Presentation and Graphics

                  Originally posted by StefJoeHalt
                  After watching this and the Eagles Jags game..I was going to make the joke and say the reason for the open receivers was due to bad CB..but still bad overall..here is my question about "what build it was"...if it was an earlier build why show (one with Rex) a better build the week prior..then older build this week? Seems backwards right? Would want to build up to release no?
                  I highly doubt it was an earlier build and the gameplay issues that people are seeing could possibly be a combination of gameplay settings that were different than the first stream and more gameplay tuning. The washed out colors could be due to the time of day and for some reason they thought showing off how the game looked in afternoon games was a good idea for the graphics part of the presentation.

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                  • kehlis
                    Moderator
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 27922

                    #204
                    Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream - Presentation and Graphics

                    Originally posted by CowherPower
                    And this right here tells me that this "build" wasn't as "old" as some would like us to believe.
                    If the whole premise was to show these things off,showing an "older build" doesn't make much sense at all.
                    I can't see it being an older build at this point.

                    We've been through this rodeo, we know EA doesn't let anything drop they don't allow and being this close to release I doubt they allow us to see anything that isn't finalized.



                    If a demo comes, I understand that being an older build, but not videos from inside at this point.

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                    • jpdavis82
                      All Star
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 8697

                      #205
                      Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream - Presentation and Graphics

                      Originally posted by CowherPower
                      And this right here tells me that this "build" wasn't as "old" as some would like us to believe.
                      If the whole premise was to show these things off,showing an "older build" doesn't make much sense at all.
                      I think you guys are over thinking this stuff, lets just wait another week maybe two and we'll see the final build. The GC's should be getting the game around Aug 12 based on previous years. They usually post video before that even. I think last year they posted retail build videos around Aug 8 or 9.

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                      • OhMrHanky
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 1898

                        #206
                        Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream - Presentation and Graphics

                        I think it's 'possible' that the gameplay appeared nerfed due to the players. However, the few points that I saw that shouldn't really be player related are:
                        1. Bad looking drops
                        2. Incorrect emotion on jags coach when they got a big sack. He was upset for some reason.
                        3. Alex smith rolling out of the pocket to his right and giving it the old 'madden sling' across his body throwing against the grain perfectly for a completion.
                        All of these things really gave it a Madden 25 feel.
                        I'm still hopeful and I will still buy the game, but for whatever reason(s), things looked a little funky.

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                        • Cowboy008
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 4573

                          #207
                          Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream - Presentation and Graphics

                          Originally posted by jpdavis82
                          Well I don't know what build it was from but it wasn't retail, just got this from AJ.

                          @jpdavis1982: @EASPORTS_AJ Hey man was the stream today from the retail build or an older build?

                          @EASPORTS_AJ: @jpdavis1982 I don't have retail copies yet. Why do you ask?

                          Now as far as people being disappointed today, other than the lower quality stream, I think the difference today was expectations.

                          Most people had low expectations before the first stream. After last weeks stream the expectations were raised and anything that wasn't better than last week would be seen as meh or a step backwards. My expectations have been the same all along and I found today and the stream last week fairly similar.

                          The AI issues people have mentioned for the Eagles Jags game are because it was user vs user.

                          Most of the presentation was as I expected, half time show especially in the second game, looked pretty good. I'm hoping for CFM they will have some commentary about standings and playoff races.
                          I just started watching the Jags game again and the guy is playing against the CPU not another user. On another note why did they remove the halftime show and then entire second half of the Steelers Chiefs game?

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                          • adh5199
                            Pro
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 513

                            #208
                            Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream - Presentation and Graphics

                            JPDavis1982, can you ask your guys at EA if the colors have been adjusted since the last stream. I will concede that everything looked washed out today compared to the Broncos ORANGE of the last stream.

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                            • kehlis
                              Moderator
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 27922

                              #209
                              Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream - Presentation and Graphics

                              Originally posted by jpdavis82
                              I think you guys are over thinking this stuff, lets just wait another week maybe two and we'll see the final build. The GC's should be getting the game around Aug 12 based on previous years. They usually post video before that even. I think last year they posted retail build videos around Aug 8 or 9.
                              Some may be over thinking it, or as you have done in each of the previous years, you may be under thinking it.

                              Either way, if you want others to stop posting opinions or thoughts until the game comes out then I will expect you to do the same.

                              Understood?

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                              • Kramer5150
                                Fear Me
                                • Dec 2002
                                • 7345

                                #210
                                Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream - Presentation and Graphics

                                Originally posted by jpdavis82
                                I think you guys are over thinking this stuff, lets just wait another week maybe two and we'll see the final build. The GC's should be getting the game around Aug 12 based on previous years. They usually post video before that even. I think last year they posted retail build videos around Aug 8 or 9.
                                what? nobody here is "over thinking" anything....we're merely speaking of what has been shown.....

                                apparently you must be "over thinking" things as well...so much so in fact that you felt the need to get some kind of confirmation from Twitter....

                                Originally posted by jpdavis82
                                Well I don't know what build it was from but it wasn't retail, just got this from AJ.

                                @jpdavis1982: @EASPORTS_AJ Hey man was the stream today from the retail build or an older build?

                                @EASPORTS_AJ: @jpdavis1982 I don't have retail copies yet. Why do you ask?

                                Now as far as people being disappointed today, other than the lower quality stream, I think the difference today was expectations.
                                People are for reviews if it backs their argument, and against them when they don't.
                                “I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest – If you can’t take it, you shouldn’t play!” Jack Lambert
                                “Quarterbacks should wear dresses.” Jack Lambert

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