FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

[DCEBB2001]

Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

dcebb2001 have you ever heard of anyone doing an in-depth ratings project like this for the NBA? you may have inspired some people to try!

Does anyone have real NBA scouting data to rely on??? Keep in mind that data is what drives the ratings, not stats. It may be easier to do in the NBA with the number of games played and stats/etc, but I have not heard of it being done.

[JerzeyReign]

Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

Any videos with these ratings implemented?

[DCEBB2001]

Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

Any videos with these ratings implemented?

Charter04, CM Hooe, and PLAYMAKERS all have videos online. I do not know what their channels are, but they do have some videos out there. I recommend you contact them.

[huskerfan4life]

Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

The site serves as a massive database for Madden ratings for every player that was in the league or draft eligible since 1998. All the players are rated on the same scale using scouting data and empirical data analysis. Players are also rated equally, regardless of position, which gets rid of the "my player runs faster than this player because he plays X position" arguments. That database holds 17000 players that will all have updated OVR ratings (which will be updated monthly) and attributes. This will allow users to create CAPs and edit rosters according to the FBG ratings standard within your game. Because the ratings have also been tested within the game engine, they are assured to behave more realistically than the "out of the box" ratings that EA applies.

so if we were to use this for our madden 15 franchise/dynasty we would have to go in on a monthly basis and tweak the ratings, or am I readin to much into this

[huskerfan4life]

Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

Once the ratings are completed and updated regularly you can simply look up a team or player, click on them, and see how they are rated. Then you can simply copy the attributes one by one in create a player or a roster, giving you a player that is rated using the FBG system. I will also in the future provide files that can be downloaded from the site directly for use in the NextGen consoles.

does madden have a vault like mlb 14 th show does do you could upload them to there and we could download them or is that not possible with madden

[azdawgpound]

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does madden have a vault like mlb 14 th show does do you could upload them to there and we could download them or is that not possible with madden

madden has roster share so somebody could d/l them to that and just edit and repost them with new ratings.

[DCEBB2001]

Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

so if we were to use this for our madden 15 franchise/dynasty we would have to go in on a monthly basis and tweak the ratings, or am I readin to much into this

We actually update more quickly now than back in 2009. Updates are done almost daily. You can DL a file from a roster maker for use in your Franchise Mode, but the incoming rookies will always throw your rosters off after the first season.

[charter04]

FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

It's not that strange to have pretty big gaps in overall when using real scouting data. With a 0.0-5.0 scale you could have a player that is 4.85 and a guy that's 4.50. That's pretty close but if you if you make that a Madden overall it's a 96 and 89.

I get the Pro Football Weekly (it's called Pro Football Now this year) NFL preview and they use a scouting data lead 0.0-5.0 scale. I actually did a scale transfer sheet to see what there player grades would be if it was and overall. The top player is Payton Manning with a 4.90. This is 97 overall. The number 50 player is Mario Williams with a 4.10. This is a 81 overall. In their scale anything 4.00 and up is a Blue Chip. So 79 and up if it were Madden.

My point is that Dan is not the one doing something crazy, EA is. EA is the one who has brain washed everyone into believing their ratings reflect real overalls and real NFL data. It's not.

Pro Football Now has 11 players rated 4.55 overall or higher. 4.55 would be 90 overall. 11 players 90 overall or higher! We've been brain washed by EA to believe their should be way more 90 overalls. It's just not right and it doesn't produce realistic gameplay.

I don't agree with every rating in FBG but, I'm no scout. I think their system gets it so much better than Madden. This current set is my favorite. The one I'm going to test soon.

[michiganfan8620]

Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

It's not that strange to have pretty big gaps in overall when using real scouting data. With a 0.0-5.0 scale you could have a player that is 4.85 and a guy that's 4.50. That's pretty close but if you if you make that a Madden overall it's a 96 and 89.

I get the Pro Football Weekly (it's called Pro Football Now this year) NFL preview and they use a scouting data lead 0.0-5.0 scale. I actually did a scale transfer sheet to see what there player grades would be if it was and overall. The top player is Payton Manning with a 4.90. This is 97 overall. The number 50 player is Mario Williams with a 4.10. This is a 81 overall. In their scale anything 4.00 and up is a Blue Chip. So 79 and up if it were Madden.

My point is that Dan is not the one doing something crazy, EA is. EA is the one who has brain washed everyone into believing their ratings reflect real overalls and real NFL data. It's not.

Pro Football Now has 11 players rated 4.55 overall or higher. 4.55 would be 90 overall. 11 players 90 overall or higher! We've been brain washed by EA to believe their should be way more 90 overalls. It's just not right and it doesn't produce realistic gameplay.

I don't agree with every rating in FBG but, I'm no scout. I think their system gets it so much better than Madden. This current set is my favorite. The one I'm going to test soon.

The thing is, the madden overall and the overall on the pro football weekly are not on the same scale or formula. A 4.55 may not necessarily translate to a 90 by madden standards. The OVR scale changes over time. The individual attributes that equal a 99 OVR might not have been the same in Madden 07 or some other older game. Even though a player would play the same since their attributes, the OVR might be different, which is why adjusting individual ratings to reach a desired overall doesn't make sense.

[charter04]

FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

The thing is, the madden overall and the overall on the pro football weekly are not on the same scale or formula. A 4.55 may not necessarily translate to a 90 by madden standards. The OVR scale changes over time. The individual attributes that equal a 99 OVR might not have been the same in Madden 07 or some other older game. Even though a player would play the same since their attributes, the OVR might be different, which is why adjusting individual ratings to reach a desired overall doesn't make sense.

None of that was my point. Dan doesn't try and get a certain overall. My point is Madden ratings aren't good. FBG is trying something else.

Your so oddly passionate about something you clearly don't like. It's getting trollish and weird.

Who cares what a websites rated players. Why do you can so much? I can make a website and claim Tony Romo is 99 overall. Who cares?

[charter04]

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Actually it's fine. Everyone has a right to an opinion. Just don't really know what your bringing to the table other than constant criticism.

Now back to the thread

[michiganfan8620]

Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

None of that was my point. Dan doesn't try and get a certain overall. My point is Madden ratings aren't good. FBG is trying something else.

Your so oddly passionate about something you clearly don't like. It's getting trollish and weird.

Who cares what a websites rated players. Why do you can so much? I can make a website and claim Tony Romo is 99 overall. Who cares?

My point is, 4.1 doesn't necessarily translate to a 81. Players on that scale probably end up around 2.0 and lower. I don't think any player in the nfl should be rated what a 40 would be in madden. What translates to a 40 would be way lower than what translates to a 2.0. I mean, a 40 in madden at a position is like putting Peyton Manning at WR, and I don't think any WRs in the nfl should be even close to that.

[charter04]

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There were 182 players rated 90+ on the latest madden 25 official roster. That's crazy.

[MajorSupreme]

Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

There were 182 players rated 90+ on the latest madden 25 official roster. That's crazy.

In the words of Stephen A Smith, "it's asinine, asi-ten, asi-eleven, and asi-twelve." 90+ is the elite, best of the best tier. To me, not more than 15 should be over 90.

[charter04]

FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

My point is, 4.1 doesn't necessarily translate to a 81. Players on that scale probably end up around 2.0 and lower. I don't think any player in the nfl should be rated what a 40 would be in madden. What translates to a 40 would be way lower than what translates to a 2.0. I mean, a 40 in madden at a position is like putting Peyton Manning at WR, and I don't think any WRs in the nfl should be even close to that.

If every player wasn't 80 or higher then a 50 overall wouldn't seem so bad. 2.4-2.99 is a starter caliber in the ratings I'm talking about. That's 47-58 overall. In Maddens systems this is terrible but, in a more realistic system were you have only 5-10 90 overalls and much more 60-79 it makes more sense.

The real question is have you played a game with FBG rated rosters? I have. It's just better. If you haven't then I'm not sure your opinion on this subject (FBG ratings used in Madden) is a good one.